Riot must kick TH and GIA out of franchising
Even Turkish orgs are better, at least they are rising local talents and play with turks, where Spanish players in TH, GIA and KOI???
The region has no talents at all yet, they need years of developing tier 2 scene and local VCL to make spanish superteams.
So,
-TH
-GIA
+NIP
+VirtusPro
Rendzin [#4]Why no portuguese, german or even nordic orgs in EMEA? Why give 3 slots to 3 shit spanish teams?
Let me know which German and Nordic teams are not as shit
Rendzin [#4]Why no portuguese, german or even nordic orgs in EMEA? Why give 3 slots to 3 shit spanish teams?
Rito watdoink???
3 slots for dead region that doesn’t have any tier 1 talents 🥹🥹🥹
Mortadelo [#6]Let me know which German and Nordic teams are not as shit
Bro, I can mention Guild from Sweden that's used to be wayyy better than those 3 shit spanish teams
Literally the opposite. Just as you said Spain does not have the talent. All spanish orgs have of spanish is the fanbase. Do you rather a German orgs with full germans? It's not about nationalities, to the practice all the spanish orgs are European rosters where the better players get the slots, not whoever is from somewhere
Also all spanish teams have spent a shit tone of money on their rosters, they missed, but someone is gotta be last dude. KOI was looking like a top 3, it didn't work out, but it's not like they're not trying
Rendzin [#9]Bro, I can mention Guild from Sweden that's used to be wayyy better than those 3 shit spanish teams
First of all Guild is almost bankrupt and has the total amount of 7 fans. And they were good because they managed to find Leo and Sayf, but there is not more talent like that anymore
Mortadelo [#10]Literally the opposite. Just as you said Spain does not have the talent. All spanish orgs have of spanish is the fanbase. Do you rather a German orgs with full germans? It's not about nationalities, to the practice all the spanish orgs are European rosters where the better players get the slots, not whoever is from somewhere
Also all spanish teams have spent a shit tone of money on their rosters, they missed, but someone is gotta be last dude. KOI was looking like a top 3, it didn't work out, but it's not like they're not trying
TH and GIA doesn’t have decent number of viewership! They are just bad orgs with low viewership and bad management
Mortadelo [#6]Let me know which German and Nordic teams are not as shit
I am pretty sure Heroic wanted to enter.
And BIG/Mouz are both great orgs.
Mortadelo [#6]Let me know which German and Nordic teams are not as shit
BIG got robbed of a slot by Riot
Mortadelo [#11]First of all Guild is almost bankrupt and has the total amount of 7 fans. And they were good because they managed to find Leo and Sayf, but there is not more talent like that anymore
How can you assume that? Guild would bump the ass of all those spanish teams. If they could find Leo and Sayf, they can find new talents, while Spanish teams are still mainteining players like Mixwell in their rosters ☠️☠️☠️
Sprouts [#14]BIG got robbed of a slot by Riot
Jermans doesn’t have players and fans too. Nordics has players and CIS has - better to choose NIP/Astralis and VirtusPro/Gambit to make them represent Danes/Swedes and Russians players in tier 1 scene
Gqviria [#13]I am pretty sure Heroic wanted to enter.
And BIG/Mouz are both great orgs.
Yes, Heroic is a great nordic org that could have make franchising. BIG is very big in Germany as well hahaha
Aladeeen [#12]TH and GIA doesn’t have decent number of viewership! They are just bad orgs with low viewership and bad management
That is just not true. Just for your information TH owner currently holds the 2nd highest viewer peak on twitch with over 2 million viewers (1st one is KOI owner with 3.3 million)
Gqviria [#13]I am pretty sure Heroic wanted to enter.
And BIG/Mouz are both great orgs.
Dude the Polaris league has 600 viewers. Copenaghen stadium was empty. Denmark hasn't transitioned to Valorant this is not Cs
Big and mouth could have deserved the slot
Mortadelo [#18]That is just not true. Just for your information TH owner currently holds the 2nd highest viewer peak on twitch with over 2 million viewers (1st one is KOI owner with 3.3 million)
Nobody car about TH owner. Current match TH vs GIA has lowest viewership in Franchising probably. Nobody watch this tier 3 show bro
Rendzin [#15]How can you assume that? Guild would bump the ass of all those spanish teams. If they could find Leo and Sayf, they can find new talents, while Spanish teams are still mainteining players like Mixwell in their rosters ☠️☠️☠️
I'm not assuming shit. Dude stop talking without knowing. Sweden has 1 team in Polaris and they are dead last and disbanded. Only good Polaris team its Apeks and they're recycled ex tier 1 players
Aladeeen [#20]Nobody car about TH owner. Current match TH vs GIA has lowest viewership in Franchising probably. Nobody watch this tier 3 show bro
Because they're not playing for anything doesn't mean they won't next year
Aladeeen [#16]Jermans doesn’t have players and fans too. Nordics has players and CIS has - better to choose NIP/Astralis and VirtusPro/Gambit to make them represent Danes/Swedes and Russians players in tier 1 scene
Germany has more players and fans than Danes. They also have al0rante and aslan who are proven players although its been a while we've seen al0 at the top level
Mortadelo [#22]Because they're not playing for anything doesn't mean they won't next year
Go and listen Thorin podcast with Neilzinho. He literally said that before he started coaching, TH management scouted and signed whole team by one (one fucking) week! TH don’t care about Valorant and winning at all. Complete frauds.
Aladeeen [#24]Go and listen Thorin podcast with Neilzinho. He literally said that before he started coaching, TH management scouted and signed whole team by one (one fucking) week! TH don’t care about Valorant and winning at all. Complete frauds.
Th spent 250k in buyouts
wizardbot [#23]Germany has more players and fans than Danes. They also have al0rante and aslan who are proven players although its been a while we've seen al0 at the top level
You are wrong. Denmark has more talents bcz they have cs core of players that can switch. Riot must create conditions for cs players to switch.
Mortadelo [#19]Dude the Polaris league has 600 viewers. Copenaghen stadium was empty. Denmark hasn't transitioned to Valorant this is not Cs
Big and mouth could have deserved the slot
Cause no one is investing cause riot is not helping them, i know they haven't transitioned, But bringin orgs Like Heroic, NiP, Astralis, Ence would have helped that situation.
Rendzin [#15]How can you assume that? Guild would bump the ass of all those spanish teams. If they could find Leo and Sayf, they can find new talents, while Spanish teams are still mainteining players like Mixwell in their rosters ☠️☠️☠️
classic Rendzin with the worst takes
wizardbot [#3]Why do you want to kick the org when they have just 1 spanish player in each team. Giants has F1tinho which is good, Mixwell is kinda decent while Koldamenta is one of the most proven EMEA IGLs.
Mixwell is kinda decent >
Aladeeen [#26]You are wrong. Denmark has more talents bcz they have cs core of players that can switch. Riot must create conditions for cs players to switch.
Thats the stupidest take ive seen wow. You want riot to focus more on a region with minimal playerbase in hopes that the players from cs might switch??? Also no one from denmark is leaving cs lol they are way too invested
Gqviria [#27]Cause no one is investing cause riot is not helping them, i know they haven't transitioned, But bringin orgs Like Heroic, NiP, Astralis, Ence would have helped that situation.
If those orgs do not wanna go through tier 2 first why would you just give it to them. Plus none of those orgs have ever invested in riot games other than Astralis who I would blacklist if I was Riot
Aladeeen [#16]Jermans doesn’t have players and fans too. Nordics has players and CIS has - better to choose NIP/Astralis and VirtusPro/Gambit to make them represent Danes/Swedes and Russians players in tier 1 scene
did u not see the fans today when harmii played now imagine when a german org is playing
Aladeeen [#28]TH recieved 1.5 mln stipend
No team has received any money yet.
Also dude what you're saying it's literally to put undeserving players into tier 1
You want full national rosters, but now imagine BIG made it instead of Giants. Nukkye and Hoody were only approached by Giants so that would have meant we would have obnoks and Aslan instead of Hoody and Nukkye in frnachising
Liem [#33]did u not see the fans today when harmii played now imagine when a german org is playing
I assume we have 2 slots (TH and GIA)
We lack of Scandinavian, German and CIS representation. Scandis and Russkies have players at least, more than Germany can provide in tier 1. That’s the logic. But if we choose between Spanish or German I will easily pick BIG over TH <8
Mortadelo [#32]If those orgs do not wanna go through tier 2 first why would you just give it to them. Plus none of those orgs have ever invested in riot games other than Astralis who I would blacklist if I was Riot
You know how business works, right?
They need new people to invest, and you give them benefit so they can bring new viewership.
Riot need to bring those good CS orgs, they brin viewers.
For example Vitality, apEX (IGL for Vitality's CSGO team) has congratulated Bonecold and Vitality when they were playing the French league and people who didnt know anything about Val were algo talking about them.
Gqviria [#38]You know how business works, right?
They need new people to invest, and you give them benefit so they can bring new viewership.
Riot need to bring those good CS orgs, they brin viewers.
For example Vitality, apEX (IGL for Vitality's CSGO team) has congratulated Bonecold and Vitality when they were playing the French league and people who didnt know anything about Val were algo talking about them.
And why is trusting someone who you have never worked with better than someone who you know actually works well and has done good with you before good for a business?
Mortadelo [#39]And why is trusting someone who you have never worked with better than someone who you know actually works well and has done good with you before good for a business?
Well, you answered my questions.
Gqviria [#27]Cause no one is investing cause riot is not helping them, i know they haven't transitioned, But bringin orgs Like Heroic, NiP, Astralis, Ence would have helped that situation.
Well the thing is, Riot rewarded those orgs who they think can make long term reliable partners. Giants already had history in League of Legends working with riot and Heretics brought a LEC spot for 20-30 million plus both are from the start of valorant. They have dedicated fans in valorant, they invested and are well seen by Riot. The orgs from Nordic/German just simply dont compete in these categories
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