Why is Optic Run Considered a Fluke?

I see people online constantly calling Optic's run a fluke. Why though?

They placed top 3 across 4 international lans and were easily the best NA team. The most consistent team in the world, yet they did not deserve to win masters?

who is calling it a fluke other than Shownu?

probably because eu was nerfed when they won

just look at the flag, and you'll understand why they're doing it

no one is calling it a fluke. Even Shownu is just baiting to mald NA fans

People keep on hating for no reason. Don't look too deep into it

in vlr people constantly calling everything a fluke

bro is taking shownu baits seriously

gamr [#2]

who is calling it a fluke other than Shownu?

I've seen multiple threads on vlr about it, and also a discussion I had with someone in a youtube comment section. I know I shouldn't take shownu seriously, but when I see other people saying it too, it makes me wonder.

Yistyy [#9]

I've seen multiple threads on vlr about it, and also a discussion I had with someone in a youtube comment section. I know I shouldn't take shownu seriously, but when I see other people saying it too, it makes me wonder.

well whoever doing it is probably some EU coper. the teams that made the grand finals are the same teams that made the champs finals. optic also made 3rd at copenhagen

Vianx11 [#8]

bro is taking shownu baits seriously

I know, but still saw some replies agreeing with him

no one is calling it a fluke, it literally wasn't a fluke, they dominated for a long ass time and still would be if they were together

I don't think they have a fluke run....even if we considered they won reykjavik because some team get nerfed. They still the most consistent team in 2022...

mostly because FPX, the team that are supposed to be in the tournament, didn't play, I wouldn't call it a fluke but that tournament definitely have some asterisks

break shownu jaws if u find him anywhere

hanafuuji [#14]

mostly because FPX, the team that are supposed to be in the tournament, didn't play, I wouldn't call it a fluke but that tournament definitely have some asterisks

I would disagree

People can find ways to put asterisks on literally anything, just because something unfortunate happened to where ONE team couldn’t be their that doesn’t take anything away from the win. I could legitimately put asterisk on every LAN tournament winner but why take away from how great a team played for no reason?

RedHood14 [#7]

in vlr people constantly calling everything a fluke

you are a fluke 😡

Optic Run is the Most impressive run in 2022 imo, these guys were about to get 1st rounded but ended up winning the tourney, Any arguable fluke runs imo are Either Sentinels (They FELL OFF HARD) or Gambit (These guys didn’t even qual for a masters in 2022) or Acend (THEY FELL OFF THE HARDEST + CHAMPS 2021 didn’t have a lower bracket)

blazennn [#16]

I would disagree

People can find ways to put asterisks on literally anything, just because something unfortunate happened to where ONE team couldn’t be their that doesn’t take anything away from the win. I could legitimately put asterisk on every LAN tournament winner but why take away from how great a team played for no reason?

yeah but that one team stomp all of the teams in EU and were undoubtedly the favorites coming into the tournament. OpTic played great don't get me wrong but up until that tournament EU was the best region in the world, and on their reykjavik run they didn't face a single EU team, and on the next masters tournament they're defeated twice by an EU team, only on Champions where they finally beat an EU team in Team Liquid.

hanafuuji [#19]

yeah but that one team stomp all of the teams in EU and were undoubtedly the favorites coming into the tournament. OpTic played great don't get me wrong but up until that tournament EU was the best region in the world, and on their reykjavik run they didn't face a single EU team, and on the next masters tournament they're defeated twice by an EU team, only on Champions where they finally beat an EU team in Team Liquid.

again these are things you are knit picking specifically to go against Optic

I could do the same with every other tournament winner. Regardless of the scenario or situation nothing takes away from a team winning a tournament and more importantly in Valorant their is no clear “favorites” look at Fnatic who struggled forever but were always “favorites” it just isn’t a spectrum you can use in such a unpredictable game. Your just spitting things out that mean basically nothing cause like i’ve said if I wanted I could go through every tournament and make claims just like yours for each team that took the trophy home. (And even if FPX were the “best EMEA” team Optic had a better year and placed above them at Champs)

thatpower [#3]

probably because eu was nerfed when they won

They downvote this even tho its just fsctual

RedHood14 [#7]

in vlr people constantly calling everything a fluke

They be calling clutches a fluke nowadays

blazennn [#20]

again these are things you are knit picking specifically to go against Optic

I could do the same with every other tournament winner. Regardless of the scenario or situation nothing takes away from a team winning a tournament and more importantly in Valorant their is no clear “favorites” look at Fnatic who struggled forever but were always “favorites” it just isn’t a spectrum you can use in such a unpredictable game. Your just spitting things out that mean basically nothing cause like i’ve said if I wanted I could go through every tournament and make claims just like yours for each team that took the trophy home. (And even if FPX were the “best EMEA” team Optic had a better year and placed above them at Champs)

alright let's see

Masters Reykjavik 2021: Sentinels absolutely stomps every team, no asterisks there (unless you want to use the "against milkmen and plumbers" argument)

Masters Berlin 2021:Gambit stomp the group stage and beat a KR team, an EU team, and an NA team to win the finals, pretty solid. no asterisks there

Champions 2021: Acend beat NV on the group stage, beat TL in the semis and pull a comeback from 11-12 on the third map in the verge of series point against Gambit in the finals, the playoffs was a bit easy because there's two upsets in the groups and a flukey series win against gambit, there's an asterisks to be made there

Masters Reykjavik 2022: OpTIc got upsetted by xerxia on the groups but still manages to qualify for playoffs, win against onliner The Guard on the quarters, beat DRX on the semis which is fair, and then lose to LOUD in the upper finals before going back to the grand final after beating a fluke ZETA run, and then proceed to beat LOUD on the grand finals, this is without facing a single EU team and with FNC playing with subs and FPX not present in the tournament

Masters Copenhagen 2022: FPX lose against FNC in the playoffs because suygetsu is not there yet, and then proceed to go on a lower bracket run, beating every single top team from the major regions and then win the whole thing. no asterisks there

Champions 2022: LOUD lost against OpTic in the groups, but then proceed to go on a flawless run on their way to the grand final only losing a single map to OpTic on the grand finals. no asterisks there

LOCK//IN 2023: Fnatic beat every single team without dropping a map on the grand finals, and then pull a miracle comeback from 11-3 down on the fifth map vs LOUD, definitely not an asterisks there

you see what I mean? I'm not saying that OpTic is a bad team but out of all international tournaments so far they had the biggest asterisks, sure if you want to be pedantic about it you can make it for every single international tournament winners factoring shit like what food do they eat that they, or one player had a flu or something, but really?