Must be out of franchising asap
All they do just play Jett or Sage
Look at Tenz, Cryo, Twisten or any other Jett-only player, they make their teams weak with comps. Vitality playing with Sage without Cypher and Cypher >>> Sage on Bind.
As the most clever VLR user once said: the good duelist must master Raze. Trembolona is GOATED
Aladeeen [#4]No. If it was true molsi not playing Raze then?
Maybe because Molsi is good Raze as well and these roles just fit them better on this map? Raze has likely been his best role and arguably even Twisten's at times.
Cresp [#5]Who tf said cypher> sage on bind. Ever since 2021 he has never been meta once on this map. Sage has been consistently good on this map all the time.
Teams play sage only bcz their Jetts can’t play anything except Jett or Sage. Cypher is better option by far
Cresp [#5]Who tf said cypher> sage on bind. Ever since 2021 he has never been meta once on this map. Sage has been consistently good on this map all the time.
But cypher hadn’t been buffed before 2021. I’m pretty sure people would play cypher more than sage on bind.
TrialRunnr [#11]tbf Cryo played Omen too, they should just be put as 6th and play the maps where they are good on Jett and be on the bench when Jett is not required
Cryo isn't even bad at Omen or Sage though
Aladeeen [#12]Teams play sage only bcz their Jetts can’t play anything except Jett or Sage. Cypher is better option by far
Since when? Sage has numerous executes around the wall and can stall better around hookah and short. Cypher is more an off pick to counter double wall. Never has he been good since internationals.
Shownu [#14]Stopped reading at Twisted. Cryo and TenZ can't play anything besides Jett but Twisten is only playing Sage because Molsi plays Raze in Bind.
Cryo has been playing Sage and Omen...?
Shownu [#14]Stopped reading at Twisted. Cryo and TenZ can't play anything besides Jett but Twisten is only playing Sage because Molsi plays Raze in Bind.
Stoped reading at showmu 🤓
hungeryman [#13]But cypher hadn’t been buffed before 2021. I’m pretty sure people would play cypher more than sage on bind.
Kj would probably be more popular even since lockdown is so strong on this map. Especially with its synergy in double wall
Okoretro [#21]bro put twisten and jett one trick in the same sentence
Show me twisten consistently play raze on Bind & Split and I will change my opinion
Aladeeen [#23]Show me twisten consistently play raze on Bind & Split and I will change my opinion
on BIG and he's main raze on fracture
Aladeeen [#8]Keep coping
ok imagine you have derke and alfajer obviously you want to have derke on raze right? but that doesnt mean that alfajer is bad at raze
ValdemieGC [#24]Twisten one-trick
Haha good one man
One-trick Jett means duelist playing Jett-only and mid on Raze. Idc about him playing Sage - the most easy agent in the game LMAO
he’s a duelist - end of discussion.
Cresp [#20]Kj would probably be more popular even since lockdown is so strong on this map. Especially with its synergy in double wall
Kj makes more sense. Would be pretty much op
Aladeeen [#27]One-trick Jett means duelist playing Jett-only and mid on Raze. Idc about him playing Sage - the most easy agent in the game LMAO
he’s a duelist - end of discussion.
Ur just dumb man
People been telling you that he plays a lot of raze, but I don't think you're catching it
Okoretro [#25]on BIG and he's main raze on fracture
Ok, let’s give him more time then? Now facts: it’s a bad thing when your duelist doesn’t play Raze on Bind preferring Sage.
ValdemieGC [#29]Ur just dumb man
People been telling you that he plays a lot of raze, but I don't think you're catching it
When he will play Raze consistently on Split and Bind I will change my opinion.
Aladeeen [#30]Ok, let’s give him more time then? Now facts: it’s a bad thing when your duelist doesn’t play Raze on Bind preferring Sage.
its definitely the coaches decision to put him on sage not twistens 💀
Okoretro [#26]ok imagine you have derke and alfajer obviously you want to have derke on raze right? but that doesnt mean that alfajer is bad at raze
I think chronicle fits this example better cause roles
Aladeeen [#31]When he will play Raze consistently on Split and Bind I will change my opinion.
go to twistens profile, then go agents, then all and look what his most played agent is
Aladeeen [#31]When he will play Raze consistently on Split and Bind I will change my opinion.
But he did lmao dude
He's playing Sage because MOLSI is comfort picking Raze on Bind
Okoretro [#26]ok imagine you have derke and alfajer obviously you want to have derke on raze right? but that doesnt mean that alfajer is bad at raze
Derke Raze better Alfajer Raze tho? And what’s even more important no one in Fnatic will play KJ/Cypher better than Alfa if he switches to Raze, agree? Those switches were available during Chamber meta, now they are not in tier 1. 8-13 btw:D
tenz.. CAN play jett, sage, kayo...
his raze has also improved a lot when he’s first played it.. i forget when he played it last but it’s sufficient.. certainly not the best.
he also farmed on neon on stream... idk why sen has never put him on neon... she’s so easy to play. makes for way more interesting comps like leaf on neon
kirrans [#37]do not tell him about aspas
Aspas was consistently playing Raze in Champions wdym lil bro?
Aladeeen [#36]Derke Raze better Alfajer Raze tho? And what’s even more important no one in Fnatic will play KJ/Cypher better than Alfa if he switches to Raze, agree? Those switches were available during Chamber meta, now they are not in tier 1. 8-13 btw:D
yes and twistens sage better than molsi's so thats why molsi is on raze instead of twisten raze and molsi sage
mocaxoxo [#38]tenz.. CAN play jett, sage, kayo...
his raze has also improved a lot when he’s first played it.. i forget when he played it last but it’s sufficient.. certainly not the best.
he also farmed on neon on stream... idk why sen has never put him on neon... she’s so easy to play. makes for way more interesting comps like leaf on neon
That’s why SEN dropped Tenz preferring more versatile Zekken? Stop this man
Okoretro [#41]his raze was mid
He did his role well tho
Entry is not who always has best KD in the game bro
Only Jett with dash ability gives that ridiculous opportunity that’s why lots of bad players were boosted by this.
Aladeeen [#44]He did his role well tho
Entry is not who always has best KD in the game bro
Only Jett with dash ability gives that ridiculous opportunity that’s why lots of bad players were boosted by this.
loud is playing raze jett on a lot of maps now guess why? aspas should be a way bigger jett one trick than twisten
Okoretro [#45]loud is playing raze jett on a lot of maps now guess why? aspas should be a way bigger jett one trick than twisten
Loud will change their comps on Tokyo lil bro. I give 100% on that
Okoretro [#43]how come
Cause obv u will have Alfa on sentinel, in this example it’s duelist vs flex
Pengu12 [#47]Cause obv u will have Alfa on sentinel, in this example it’s duelist vs flex
chronicle mainly played sova and brim on bind he only started playing raze because d3ffo got benched
Pengu12 [#47]Cause obv u will have Alfa on sentinel, in this example it’s duelist vs flex
The thing is Derke Raze is better than Chronicle Raze. Let’s leave that twisten discussion, the main idea is to have a true duelist like Derke who play Jet and Raze consistently on high level. Jett-only players must chill in Premier or tier 2 vcls. Agree?
Aladeeen [#49]The thing is Derke Raze is better than Chronicle Raze. Let’s leave that twisten discussion, the main idea is to have a true duelist like Derke who play Jet and Raze consistently on high level. Jett-only players must chill in Premier or tier 2 vcls. Agree?
Yup 100%, all I was saying is that Alfa and Derke example don’t make sense
mocaxoxo [#38]tenz.. CAN play jett, sage, kayo...
his raze has also improved a lot when he’s first played it.. i forget when he played it last but it’s sufficient.. certainly not the best.
he also farmed on neon on stream... idk why sen has never put him on neon... she’s so easy to play. makes for way more interesting comps like leaf on neon
how is neon easy to play
probably one of the most hard agents to master and to play on vct
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