Fnatic is a tier above all teams
Asuna_Yuuki [#3]NAH
Almost lost to LOUD
EMEA league makes them look stronger than they really are
Fnatic wanted to win that way lol
Asuna_Yuuki [#3]NAH
Almost lost to LOUD
EMEA league makes them look stronger than they really are
True only Navi can make them sweat and they are yet to play each other
mocaxoxo [#2]blud forgot about LOUD...
theyre toe to toe
no
Loud is losing maps to every team(even MIBR lol)
Verstepping33 [#8]True only Navi can make them sweat and they are yet to play each other
Navi almost lost a map to freaking Karmine Corp tho
Simon_Digger [#10]Navi almost lost a map to freaking Karmine Corp tho
LOUD almost lost to freaking EG 🤡🤡
DRX almost lost a map to GE 🤡🤡🤡🤡
hard truths for VLR cretins to accept
Verstepping33 [#11]LOUD almost lost to freaking EG 🤡🤡
DRX almost lost a map to GE 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Bcuz unlike fnatic, loud isn't picking their best map whenever they can
If loud simply picked ascent they could've easily 2-0ed EG
but they're fixing their map pool to destroy DRX at masters (their only challenge btw, Fnatic right now is weaker than DRX)
I'm pretty sure EG would beat all the teams Fnatic faced until now on EMEA league, including team liquid
pugz [#9]no
Loud is losing maps to every team(even MIBR lol)
To be fair, EG really anti-stratted LOUD so you can't really call them shit. I also strongly believe that LOUD under estimated EG going into that game hence the scoreline on Split. Haven is such a 50/50 map sometimes but damn did LOUD look good on Pearl.
1cameh [#12]hard truths for VLR cretins to accept
- fnatic are indeed the best team in the world
- LOUD are not consistent enough quite yet to prove that they can beat fnatic considering their recent showings. simultaneously, LOUD is clearly experimenting with comps, so who knows what Tokyo will look like?
- Americas really is not that much more competitive than EMEA anymore. LOUD, C9, FURIA, LEV, SEN, 100T, NRG vs fnatic, NAVI, Giants, FUT, Liquid, Vitality - for both regions, top3 teams are consistent, lower teams have high peaks but are less consistent
but also EG, mibr, and kru are taking maps off of top teams, some even getting close to winning their games. looking at emea, their bottom teams are way farther at the bottom
Subreezy [#19]but also EG, mibr, and kru are taking maps off of top teams, some even getting close to winning their games. looking at emea, their bottom teams are way farther at the bottom
eg are just bad and them nearly 2-0ing loud is a bad sign for americas
Tyzehhxo [#18]To be fair, EG really anti-stratted LOUD so you can't really call them shit. I also strongly believe that LOUD under estimated EG going into that game hence the scoreline on Split. Haven is such a 50/50 map sometimes but damn did LOUD look good on Pearl.
Bro wtf all teams anti-strat it's a part of the game it doesn't make any team less capable. Map pool and anti-strating according to it also crucial 👍.
alitmanus [#14]Bcuz unlike fnatic, loud isn't picking their best map whenever they can
If loud simply picked ascent they could've easily 2-0ed EG
but they're fixing their map pool to destroy DRX at masters (their only challenge btw, Fnatic right now is weaker than DRX)
I'm pretty sure EG would beat all the teams Fnatic faced until now on EMEA league, including team liquid
How is fnatic weaker? They've dropped one map since lock\in, playing with a sub
hekzy [#23]How is fnatic weaker? They've dropped one map since lock\in, playing with a sub
not dropping a map to Liquid, Heretics, BBL, Giants is really a big thing
All those teams are literally weaker than EG
wtf is Fnatic picking their best map (icebox) against tier hell teams? Lmao
yaiima0 [#17]FNC only looks good cuz Emea isn’t as competitive lol
And how did you come up with that?
lilbhosduu [#22]Bro wtf all teams anti-strat it's a part of the game it doesn't make any team less capable. Map pool and anti-strating according to it also crucial 👍.
Ofcourse it is, you're not getting the point I was making though, look back at that map, EG legit anti stratted the FUCK out of LOUD and looked good doing it. Yes anti-stratting is all apart of it same with map pool etc, but teams adapt on the fly, LOUD did not and EG had them read on that map hard.
1cameh [#12]hard truths for VLR cretins to accept
- fnatic are indeed the best team in the world
- LOUD are not consistent enough quite yet to prove that they can beat fnatic considering their recent showings. simultaneously, LOUD is clearly experimenting with comps, so who knows what Tokyo will look like?
- Americas really is not that much more competitive than EMEA anymore. LOUD, C9, FURIA, LEV, SEN, 100T, NRG vs fnatic, NAVI, Giants, FUT, Liquid, Vitality - for both regions, top3 teams are consistent, lower teams have high peaks but are less consistent
LOUD are not consistent enough
MFs are literally 39W 5L
turkey [#26]BBL KEK
Fnatic played with a sub and BBL isn't terrible team especially on Ascent. Their good form is actually pretty high.
alitmanus [#24]not dropping a map to Liquid, Heretics, BBL, Giants is really a big thing
All those teams are literally weaker than EG
wtf is Fnatic picking their best map (icebox) against tier hell teams? Lmao
i know this is sad for you Americans, but fnatic is the best team in the game right now, my friend, you have to accept it
suprmcy [#30]i know this is sad for you Americans, but fnatic is the best team in the game right now, my friend, you have to accept it
well masters is coming for them to prove it
Cosmic_ [#21]Americas quality of teams is the best but the quality of emeas teams is still better than pacific
k bro
Numbx [#28]LOUD are not consistent enough
MFs are literally 39W 5L
what's your point? have you actually watched any of their recent games?
Subreezy [#19]but also EG, mibr, and kru are taking maps off of top teams, some even getting close to winning their games. looking at emea, their bottom teams are way farther at the bottom
because the top teams aren't untouchable, which is the point I was making. KC, BBL, KOI, Heretics all took maps off of top EMEA teams as well - KOI was considered top4 at one point, and BBL have actually looked pretty good, KC look great w/ their ZE1SH stepping in, Heretics... we don't talk about them
1cameh [#12]hard truths for VLR cretins to accept
- fnatic are indeed the best team in the world
- LOUD are not consistent enough quite yet to prove that they can beat fnatic considering their recent showings. simultaneously, LOUD is clearly experimenting with comps, so who knows what Tokyo will look like?
- Americas really is not that much more competitive than EMEA anymore. LOUD, C9, FURIA, LEV, SEN, 100T, NRG vs fnatic, NAVI, Giants, FUT, Liquid, Vitality - for both regions, top3 teams are consistent, lower teams have high peaks but are less consistent
LOUD is not consistent.
World champion, lock-in finalist, first in americas league ... hahahahahahahaha
mysterii [#37]FNC and LOUD**
I think DRX too, they can't beat LOUD or FNC, but any other team can't beat them, i think ...
NelsonValerio [#15]Americas vct is clearly better and most competitive than Emea like teams with bbl, Karmine flop, Team LuLquid one Team region ☠️
LEV is considered top team in your league lmao. LEV and 100T took a grand total of 3 rounds from FNC and NAVI in fracture. If you're gonna call Americas most competitive with teams like LEV, FUR and 100T, EMEA is just as good, because atleast BBL, Giants can take off a map against NAVI and fnatic. Delusional american narrative after they clearly see they are gonna be sent packing by EMEA for the rest of the year.
1cameh [#33]what's your point? have you actually watched any of their recent games?
Well they won all the games on the America League and all the games on lockin besides
the final, this show that they are consistent
Mylotic [#41]Well they won all the games on the America League and all the games on lockin besides
the final, this show that they are consistent
just because they're winning doesn't mean that they're consistent... have you actually watched their games? they're still #1 in Americas for sure, but their performance game to game is not consistently the same
cryyBAE [#35]LOUD is not consistent.
World champion, lock-in finalist, first in americas league ... hahahahahahahaha
#1 americas, #2 world. but they're still inconsistent. watch their gameplay, my friend
cryyBAE [#38]I think DRX too, they can't beat LOUD or FNC, but any other team can't beat them, i think ...
i bet NAVI could beat DRX, thats it tho
mysterii [#45]i bet NAVI could beat DRX, thats it tho
Nope, 2-0 for sure.
Navi lost a map to KC, dude
Moiraine [#47]100t is terrible
they just won over levamericas is a fucking mess
fnatic lost to 100t at champions
fut lost to 100t
didn't NAVI lose to Koi? Lmao
what did koi achieve?
losing to KOI is more shameful than losing to 100T
cryyBAE [#35]LOUD is not consistent.
World champion, lock-in finalist, first in americas league ... hahahahahahahaha
the only team who make 3 grand finals in international events out of 4 played.
1cameh [#42]just because they're winning doesn't mean that they're consistent... have you actually watched their games? they're still #1 in Americas for sure, but their performance game to game is not consistently the same
I agree with you bro, consistent doesn't mean that they're good, for exemple EG, they keep losing in consistently. Very solid record.
alitmanus [#48]fnatic lost to 100t at champions
fut lost to 100tdidn't NAVI lose to Koi? Lmao
what did koi achieve?
losing to KOI is more shameful than losing to 100T
navi are not playing well. especially at the beginning where they had the worst comps and REALLY wanted to make gekko happen.
NAVI are not great rn either whats ur point ?
100T are garbage. LEV is not, but they lost somehow. Which is why americas is a mess. i dont understand what this has to do with NAVI not being good rn lol
Master of whataboutism
Supre_ [#39]Jus watch the games lmao
I am. I'm seeing NaVi and Fnatic (semifinalist and winner, who took a big dump on all of America's) be at the top of the league. How unexpected.
ffwagashi [#50]I agree with you bro, consistent doesn't mean that they're good, for exemple EG, they keep losing in consistently. Very solid record.
i just said that they're #1 in americas and #2 in the world. use your brain
1cameh [#53]i just said that they're #1 in americas and #2 in the world. use your brain
I LITERALLY AGREED WITH U DUMB FUCK. USE YOUR FUCKING BRAIN
ffwagashi [#54]I LITERALLY AGREED WITH U DUMB FUCK. USE YOUR FUCKING BRAIN
your comment is sarcastic. weird bait, but ok
cryyBAE [#35]LOUD is not consistent.
World champion, lock-in finalist, first in americas league ... hahahahahahahaha
lol