Zellsis better than victor
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qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn [#10]crazy shit take
It’s sad because i love zellsis but he’ll just get shit on in this thread because BackoxyXD said so
Simp4S0m [#8]Oxy is better than Yay what is your point?
oxy better than the plethora of duelist jett one tricks in franchise lets be real..
his raze is nasty
Shadow_Monarch [#15]Victor and -31 FNS are the reasons why OpTic lost in multiple Semis/Finals.
Just facts.
3 marved + crashies +yay wins champs 22 tbh
since_beta [#2]trent better than crashies what is yor point?
Crashies actually better than trent so much
since_beta [#2]trent better than crashies what is yor point?
how do people hold this take still. trent went to 1 international and did terribly. how many lans did crashies go to and farm? are we just saying trend > crashies because of T2 NA stats? fantastic logic.
chick [#4]Rn? Yes. When victor was on optic? NEVER. Not even close, victor was the best support kay/o/skye in the game for like an year straight
i would argue victor is feeling it more rn than in the past, but I agree even in the past he had more impact than zellsis. hot take but zellsis kinda looked mid always to me.
VinceVioVN [#21]how do people hold this take still. trent went to 1 international and did terribly. how many lans did crashies go to and farm? are we just saying trend > crashies because of T2 NA stats? fantastic logic.
https://www.vlr.gg/85524/the-guard-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/77792/optic-gaming-vs-the-guard-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/77791/optic-gaming-vs-the-guard-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-ubf/?game=all&tab=performance
since_beta [#23]https://www.vlr.gg/85524/the-guard-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/77792/optic-gaming-vs-the-guard-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/77791/optic-gaming-vs-the-guard-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-ubf/?game=all&tab=performance
They then proceed to beat them at the LAN and go on to win the entire thing 💀
xD1LL4N [#27]Kiles is a champion...
Whats your point ?
Dude said "one is a champion" what's his point
Swxtch [#28]Dude said "one is a champion" what's his point
Comparing two igls and one of the them is a fucking world champion and not a master's winner.. think about the amount of anti strat that was planned and mid round calling across the series during the champions finals. He literally brought the team to finals to this year's lock in with 2 new inexperienced pros. If you can't understand this basic shit stop replying also Shahz won a masters do you guys think Shahz is on par fns ?
mocaxoxo [#14]oxy better than the plethora of duelist jett one tricks in franchise lets be real..
his raze is nasty
that happens to be his only good agent. he sucks at jett lmao. better to be a good jett than a good raze
Shanvel [#33]Comparing two igls and one of the them is a fucking world champion and not a master's winner.. think about the amount of anti strat that was planned and mid round calling across the series during the champions finals. He literally brought the team to finals to this year's lock in with 2 new inexperienced pros. If you can't understand this basic shit stop replying also Shahz won a masters do you guys think Shahz is on par fns ?
This is such a terrible take. Lock-in was a mickey mouse tourney and FNS shits on loud. Talon, Team Secret, and KC did relatively well at lock-in and are now getting absolutely shit on. Lock-in means nothing
xD1LL4N [#5]Mechanically not strategically
barely even mechanically. Bro goes double negative on raze all the time
Swxtch [#36]This is such a terrible take. Lock-in was a mickey mouse tourney and FNS shits on loud. Talon, Team Secret, and KC did relatively well at lock-in and are now getting absolutely shit on. Lock-in means nothing
Bruh comfortably leaving out the champions take doesn't mean whatever you are saying is right lol
since_beta [#23]https://www.vlr.gg/85524/the-guard-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/77792/optic-gaming-vs-the-guard-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/77791/optic-gaming-vs-the-guard-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-ubf/?game=all&tab=performance
ah yes, the cherry-picked 1v1 argument. So tell me, should tryouts be a bunch of 1v1s to see who can aim better
Shanvel [#39]Bruh comfortably leaving out the champions take doesn't mean whatever you are saying is right lol
Dude Every LAN before 2022 meant almost nothing. Brand new game, all that mattered was aim, that's why SEN sucked ass when actual strats started to matter. Saying that 2022 Masters didn't matter is just coping
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