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GreyDaze [#9]Not better than any of the 5 here
How much for what your smoking ill pay big dollars shi must hit hard
pugboy [#11]How much for what your smoking ill pay big dollars shi must hit hard
Look at the stats b4 talking shit. Aspas not top 5 in any of the international event except Iceland 2022. Less consistently better than him. Even in lock in caunzin and less far better than him
GreyDaze [#13]Look at the stats b4 talking shit. Aspas not top 5 in any of the international event except Iceland 2022. Less consistently better than him. Even in lock in caunzin and less far better than him
The question is top itw not top 5 most consistent not top 5 in 2022 top 5 right now and Aspas is playing better valorant than anyone and its not close and dont even try and bullshit the cauanzin narrative thats just braindamage the mans good but he’s not aspas
pugboy [#14]The question is top itw not top 5 most consistent not top 5 in 2022 top 5 right now and Aspas is playing better valorant than anyone and its not close and dont even try and bullshit the cauanzin narrative thats just braindamage the mans good but he’s not aspas
Are u braindead? Top 5 itw means who is top 5 currently. And even if u don't consider prev tournaments aspas not top 5 in lock in. All the 5 here are better than him. Just look at the stats. Aspas pops off in 1 game and basically disappears for rest of the tournament but everyone worships him. Less consistently better for loud throughout the tournament. Same with cauanzin. Don't even need to talk about Leo and derke. Shao was the best player b4 they got destroyed by fnc. Same with mako in drx b4 the loss vs loud
GreyDaze [#15]Are u braindead? Top 5 itw means who is top 5 currently. And even if u don't consider prev tournaments aspas not top 5 in lock in. All the 5 here are better than him. Just look at the stats. Aspas pops off in 1 game and basically disappears for rest of the tournament but everyone worships him. Less consistently better for loud throughout the tournament. Same with cauanzin. Don't even need to talk about Leo and derke. Shao was the best player b4 they got destroyed by fnc. Same with mako in drx b4 the loss vs loud
https://imgur.com/k0r7B7R I dont know where your stupidity comes from but thats alright Aspas is playing like the best player in the world right now and thats all that matters previous tournaments don’t matter if they aren’t playing like the best right now thats the whole question Aspas bring way more value than anyone on LOUD will besides maybe saadhak if you consider the IGL role more important than fragging and space making impact. Even the numbers say he’s playing better than anyone and its not really even disputable if you don’t think he’s better than Shao or Leo thats fine but He’s definitely better than Less right now, and everything he has done since LOCK//IN has been incredible and is better than Less
pugboy [#7]Cauanzin is not top 5 although he’s amazing Less Aspas Leo Mako Shao are all better there are def more too
its a hot take from me tbh but cauanzin seems to not get too much credit even tho he went from t2 to t1 and is instantly able to keep up with others who have been t1 for a long time
GreyDaze [#12]Who would they replace? All these 5 are better than them
chronicle plays so many roles that it is criminal to not put him in top 5 and also aspas is aspas idk why people are still putting him less than derke when he showed that he is as good as derke multiple times
noxx [#19]its a hot take from me tbh but cauanzin seems to not get too much credit even tho he went from t2 to t1 and is instantly able to keep up with others who have been t1 for a long time
He’s nuts can’t argue that
noxx [#20]chronicle plays so many roles that it is criminal to not put him in top 5 and also aspas is aspas idk why people are still putting him less than derke when he showed that he is as good as derke multiple times
How is he as good as derke when derke had way better stats in literally every single tournament they played together in. Chronicle is amazing no doubt but I don't see him above any of these 5 for now and this is coming from a long time gmb fan
pugboy [#16]https://imgur.com/k0r7B7R I dont know where your stupidity comes from but thats alright Aspas is playing like the best player in the world right now and thats all that matters previous tournaments don’t matter if they aren’t playing like the best right now thats the whole question Aspas bring way more value than anyone on LOUD will besides maybe saadhak if you consider the IGL role more important than fragging and space making impact. Even the numbers say he’s playing better than anyone and its not really even disputable if you don’t think he’s better than Shao or Leo thats fine but He’s definitely better than Less right now, and everything he has done since LOCK//IN has been incredible and is better than Less
Idk when u took that ss but look at this shit
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1188/champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo
Look where aspas is and where the other ppl are🤡. Literally the "numbers" say less is clear
GreyDaze [#23]Idk when u took that ss but look at this shit
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1188/champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo
Look where aspas is and where the other ppl are🤡. Literally the "numbers" say less is clear
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1189/champions-tour-2023-americas-league you can't make a counter argument if you even respond to my last response bro completely ignored that aspas clears everyone right now in stats and thats not even the full picture
GreyDaze [#23]Idk when u took that ss but look at this shit
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1188/champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo
Look where aspas is and where the other ppl are🤡. Literally the "numbers" say less is clear
aspas overall acs: 248
less overall acs: 213
aspas overall rating: 1.17
less overall rating: 1.09
stfu
less performed better at fluke-in, and champions, but aspas performed better at reykjavik, copenhagen, brazil challengers first and second split, and now at americas league
overall aspas is better and more consistent
if you want to discredit aspas don't use Less for that.
pugboy [#24]https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1189/champions-tour-2023-americas-league you can't make a counter argument if you even respond to my last response bro completely ignored that aspas clears everyone right now in stats and thats not even the full picture
Who tf cares about Americas league too determine a better player😂. We look at Lans lmao
alitmanus [#25]aspas overall acs: 248
less overall acs: 213aspas overall rating: 1.17
less overall rating: 1.09stfu
less performed better at fluke-in, and champions, but aspas performed better at reykjavik, copenhagen, brazil challengers first and second split, and now at americas leagueoverall aspas is better and more consistent
if you want to discredit aspas don't use Less for that.
Never said less was better in every single tournament. I said they for derke. Also less is still clear based on recent performances which are the most important ones to take into account for determining which player is better. Less>aspas
GreyDaze [#27]Who tf cares about Americas league too determine a better player😂. We look at Lans lmao
he barely played better than him stats wise at lock//in lmao
pugboy [#29]he barely played better than him stats wise at lock//in lmao
Still better rating and acs that too being a support player. Also less had better stats in champions as well. Quite clear actually that less>aspas
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