I'm genuinely surprised C9 is this good
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I really don't understand how people do not get "good coaching staff/analyst is always more important than the players involved"
for example, look at sentinels, some of the best players in the world arguably on that team yet they still hardly win matches against other arguably worse teams, coach/analyst/igl is an important role
cryyBAE [#6]They're playing against 100T, dude
100T isn’t bad and they managed to take a map off Loud which is pretty impressive.
Bonkbonk201 [#7]I really don't understand how people do not get "good coaching staff/analyst is always more important than the players involved"
for example, look at sentinels, some of the best players in the world arguably on that team yet they still hardly win matches against other arguably worse teams, coach/analyst/igl is an important role
Tbh sykko lead a really strong team and developed zekken and cryo to world class talent hes frauding rn
yaiima0 [#9]100T isn’t bad and they managed to take a map off Loud which is pretty impressive.
100T is bad, and C9 is a good team. I'm not surprised, Xepa/Leaf/Zellsis is a strong base
Cresp [#10]Tbh sykko lead a really strong team and developed zekken and cryo to world class talent hes frauding rn
He lead a strong team, sure but when your consistently getting the same results or worse, your not pushing yourself, bro would rather argue about what site to use for scrims rather than work on sentinels strats, he isn't focused on what's important to win, bro wanted the bag
Bonkbonk201 [#12]He lead a strong team, sure but when your consistently getting the same results or worse, your not pushing yourself, bro would rather argue about what site to use for scrims rather than work on sentinels strats, he isn't focused on what's important to win, bro wanted the bag
Yeah and he has top level analysts and strategists with him too idk why its not working.
Cresp [#13]Yeah and he has top level analysts and strategists with him too idk why its not working.
i think something important to look at is NRG vs Levi, and then NRG vs Sentinels this game is why i genuinely believe NRG are still gonna qualify, they got absolutely and utterly bullied on Lotus by levi, clearly their worse map at this point by far, and then in the sentinel game, they came in with a completely different comp and a completely different view on the map (Sentinels and their (""AMAZING COACH"" didn't expect a team KNOWN FOR ADAPTATION and KNOWN FOR DIFFERENT COMPS to adapt and swap comps)and how to play it, that level is what u need and that is how optic would always take a loss and then come back stronger, fns and chet are not to be underestimated, and i'd argue it will only be more effective against "the teams who look better" right now, such as Loud, C9, Furia, etc
Bonkbonk201 [#14]i think something important to look at is NRG vs Levi, and then NRG vs Sentinels this game is why i genuinely believe NRG are still gonna qualify, they got absolutely and utterly bullied on Lotus by levi, clearly their worse map at this point by far, and then in the sentinel game, they came in with a completely different comp and a completely different view on the map (Sentinels and their (""AMAZING COACH"" didn't expect a team KNOWN FOR ADAPTATION and KNOWN FOR DIFFERENT COMPS to adapt and swap comps)and how to play it, that level is what u need and that is how optic would always take a loss and then come back stronger, fns and chet are not to be underestimated, and i'd argue it will only be more effective against "the teams who look better" right now, such as Loud, C9, Furia, etc
Also have to think about how they didnt takeaway why lev won so well on lotus being their retakes. They did not try to do lev type fast retakes ever so they didnt take that defense side. Also their icebox was just insanely bad
Cresp [#15]Also have to think about how they didnt takeaway why lev won so well on lotus being their retakes. They did not try to do lev type fast retakes ever so they didnt take that defense side. Also their icebox was just insanely bad
Sure, but there's also the fact some teams are just good at some things, nrg haven't ever really been noted for their fast retakes while levi are so good at them that they are basically known for them at this stage, Just different types of teams explains why imo, You could also consider the fact nrg have the strats which will likely work for them to get to either the playoffs of na or tokyo right now, especially how they play in high intensity games, so i'd say they don't need to change that currently, and it'd only be a disadvantage if they tried to, look at navi trying comps for example, it made them look worse but they weren't actually worse
Bonkbonk201 [#16]Sure, but there's also the fact some teams are just good at some things, nrg haven't ever really been noted for their fast retakes while levi are so good at them that they are basically known for them at this stage, Just different types of teams explains why imo, You could also consider the fact nrg have the strats which will likely work for them to get to either the playoffs of na or tokyo right now, especially how they play in high intensity games, so i'd say they don't need to change that currently, and it'd only be a disadvantage if they tried to, look at navi trying comps for example, it made them look worse but they weren't actually worse
But that is the actual issue with sen imo. They just arent good at anything specific rn theyre just a regular degular decent team. They have no identity and thats what sykko should be focusing on.
Bonkbonk201 [#14]i think something important to look at is NRG vs Levi, and then NRG vs Sentinels this game is why i genuinely believe NRG are still gonna qualify, they got absolutely and utterly bullied on Lotus by levi, clearly their worse map at this point by far, and then in the sentinel game, they came in with a completely different comp and a completely different view on the map (Sentinels and their (""AMAZING COACH"" didn't expect a team KNOWN FOR ADAPTATION and KNOWN FOR DIFFERENT COMPS to adapt and swap comps)and how to play it, that level is what u need and that is how optic would always take a loss and then come back stronger, fns and chet are not to be underestimated, and i'd argue it will only be more effective against "the teams who look better" right now, such as Loud, C9, Furia, etc
I completely agree, picking lotus was troll
I fucking new we lost the map the second we picked it
Cresp [#17]But that is the actual issue with sen imo. They just arent good at anything specific rn theyre just a regular degular decent team. They have no identity and thats what sykko should be focusing on.
I've always said "Sentinels have internal issues" and 100% still agree, what i mean by internal issues is "igl, coach, analyst" type roles, u put fns on sen for deph and chet for sykko and they are world champions i don't doubt it, because fns and chet would make them better, they'd find players strengths and work on them and help find strats or ideas which work, sykko and the past coaches seem to of just been picked for their name rather than how good they are, but with a ceo which is a businessman and entrepreneur, they look at reputation and not who would actually be a good fit for the team, unlucky
Tooker [#4]People shit on Runi and Jakee too much because they weren't t1 players. Never doubt mCe scouting.
Ppl putting certain tier 1 and tier 2 labels way too harsh in a new esports like valorant. There's truly some frauds in tier 1 and tier 2 now that if teams start doing more scouting and talent search could be replaced. Just incompetent scouting and laziness to access their current roster I feel like when I look at teams like kc dfm eg heretics.
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