Shroud - cs vs val

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Ok8wtYE6o

What do you think he meant by that?
"Everyone is a king in this game, in cs not everyone is a king"

Probably that since skill ceiling is lower everyone is at the same level in terms of aim.

He means that aim and awarness in cs is massive and a slightest mistake can mean a quick round loss, in val you can make shitty situations favourable to you with abilities which requires much less precision and less mechanical skill.

In CS stuff like counter strafe is way more important, you have the need to learn recoil control, flashes and smokes are harder and limited per player, positioning is harder because you dont have huge jumps and dashes or imortality like Reyna so you cant get on a dangerous position get a kill and leave, so thats why its harder to be a king in CS, it is easier for him because he is already a good player with lots of knowledge about the game, that puts him above most players, something that doesnt happen in valorant as those things got watered down for the average guy to learn like point and click smokes and flashes through walls

F4by [#4]

In CS stuff like counter strafe is way more important, you have the need to learn recoil control, flashes and smokes are harder and limited per player, positioning is harder because you dont have huge jumps and dashes or imortality like Reyna so you cant get on a dangerous position get a kill and leave, so thats why its harder to be a king in CS, it is easier for him because he is already a good player with lots of knowledge about the game, that puts him above most players, something that doesnt happen in valorant as those things got watered down for the average guy to learn like point and click smokes and flashes through walls

"flashes and smokes are harder " learning lineups is hard? like how r u telling it's hard to know a few lineups in a game that has been the same for 9 fking years(yeah small changes but still)?

anothervlruser [#5]

"flashes and smokes are harder " learning lineups is hard? like how r u telling it's hard to know a few lineups in a game that has been the same for 9 fking years(yeah small changes but still)?

bro you are delusional to say that... brimstone u literally click on a spot in the map to smoke, so yes learning multiple lineups for multiple situations that may never even occur and only starting with 1 smoke in cs is much more impactful

anothervlruser [#5]

"flashes and smokes are harder " learning lineups is hard? like how r u telling it's hard to know a few lineups in a game that has been the same for 9 fking years(yeah small changes but still)?

In cs you can trust people to know couple of lineups only from above average ranks. In val the equivalent would something like high plat. People dont bother learn lineups in cs

appa [#6]

bro you are delusional to say that... brimstone u literally click on a spot in the map to smoke, so yes learning multiple lineups for multiple situations that may never even occur and only starting with 1 smoke in cs is much more impactful

+1 CS smokes require so much memory. I've heard of teams in CS literally giving 100 page documents on all the smokes they need to learn and recall at a moments notice

appa [#6]

bro you are delusional to say that... brimstone u literally click on a spot in the map to smoke, so yes learning multiple lineups for multiple situations that may never even occur and only starting with 1 smoke in cs is much more impactful

"delusional" yep I am.
dude my point was it was not harder in csgo where i have 2 flash a smoke and a molly to learn lineups

Kuna1 [#8]

+1 CS smokes require so much memory. I've heard of teams in CS literally giving 100 page documents on all the smokes they need to learn and recall at a moments notice

u are talking abt pro play all of a sudden ?

anothervlruser [#10]

u are talking abt pro play all of a sudden ?

This is in casual as well, in higher ranks CS players are expected to know multiple smoke and flash lineups just to play.

Supr3meGucci [#2]

Probably that since skill ceiling is lower everyone is at the same level in terms of aim.

the skill ceiling is only theoretically low in valorant people haven't hit it yet lmao stop using this excuse, please.

anothervlruser [#9]

"delusional" yep I am.
dude my point was it was not harder in csgo where i have 2 flash a smoke and a molly to learn lineups

No what hes saying is that in CS you need to learn smokes, in valo you dont regardless of the amount of time the game has been out

Kuna1 [#11]

This is in casual as well, in higher ranks CS players are expected to know multiple smoke and flash lineups just to play.

but that isn't harder that's his point it is easier to do in valorant but it isn't harder in cs but i also think it's harder that guy is having a breakdown

Kuna1 [#13]

No what hes saying is that in CS you need to learn smokes, in valo you dont regardless of the amount of time the game has been out

ok :/

Rogue_Angel [#14]

but that isn't harder that's his point it is easier to do in valorant but it isn't harder in cs but i also think it's harder that guy is having a breakdown

lmao yeah but maybe im not explaining my point that well. Even if all the smokes have been figured out and there are guides and tons of help you still need to go thought the effort of learning it all

he thinks radiants shouldn't have better aim than him?

Im pretty sure hes only talking about the aim aspect of the game. The hit registry in this games very big cmpared to CS so its like even god aimers would lose aim duels agains dogshit aim players not sometimes but on ALOT of occasions.