NAVI

This game showed more about NAVI than Giants. NAVI didn't convince me at all, they won rounds based on infante mistakes from Giants, if Giants were a little bit better/more organized they could've won this map.
NAVI, you better step it up, it's def not a good show from a team with such great names.

giants won both pistols and a bonus its still 12-11 to navi

NAVI keeps playing stupid comps, cant really see their potential. for eg. who plays cypher here?
they shouldn't probably experiment this far, if they cannot pull it off and it makes them look bad. 2-0d yesterday, shouldnt struggle this much against Giants too.

navi rely too much on individual greatness

POV: avg vlr enjoyer who expects every na'vi game to be 13-0

2nd or 3rd spike loss for NAVI. Honestly idk how they losing some of these.

xD1LL4N [#2]

giants won both pistols and a bonus its still 12-11 to navi

Why is winning Bonus something bad, it's a round in inferiority

capital_d_colon [#4]

navi rely too much on individual greatness

old TL problem?

yeah it can't be Cned carrying them every time

Against a good Icebox team they don’t stand a chance

Mortadelo [#7]

Why is winning Bonus something bad, it's a round in inferiority

its not bad to win it?

Giants went up 3-0, navi lost their first gun round an had to eco. its a terrible start for them

xD1LL4N [#10]

its not bad to win it?

Giants went up 3-0, navi lost their first gun round an had to eco. its a terrible start for them

Yeah I'm just saying why would that be something to make the 12-11 worse, the pistols I get, but not the bonus

bottomfragger30 [#8]

old TL problem?

idk.
but i feel like alot of navi's round wins are just based off someone killing 2+ without any util.
or a shao clutch.

W4ZE [#5]

POV: avg vlr enjoyer who expects every na'vi game to be 13-0

They lost 2-0, now they are struggling against Giants. Don't get me wrong, not saying the Giants are bad or the team they lost is bad, the thing is that NAVI has great names and everybody expected way more, perhaps being toe to toe against FNATIC for first place but it's not looking like it, at least not in this start, that is why I'm asking them to step it up (perhaps stop trolling the comps is a good start).

your point is somewhat valid, how is a team with this much individual quality struggling, is it the player's fault or doombros? 🤔

fnatic broke them

brdreamer [#13]

They lost 2-0, now they are struggling against Giants. Don't get me wrong, not saying the Giants are bad or the team they lost is bad, the thing is that NAVI has great names and everybody expected way more, perhaps being toe to toe against FNATIC for first place but it's not looking like it, at least not in this start, that is why I'm asking them to step it up (perhaps stop trolling the comps is a good start).

this, i think its mostly the comps. if you cannot win = stop experimenting this much. Ppl expected them to be better than FNC lol, and they should be, and they used to look like they could be when they were playing optimal stuff on LOCKIN.

capital_d_colon [#12]

idk.
but i feel like alot of navi's round wins are just based off someone killing 2+ without any util.
or a shao clutch.

It is, they are heavy individual dependent. Great at anti starting too, so when they can't antistrat and don't have the day they feel shaky

FightWasTaken [#14]

your point is somewhat valid, how is a team with this much individual quality struggling, is it the player's fault or doombros? 🤔

Yes, like I said at #13, not saying Giants is bad for them not to struggle but it shouldn't be THAT complicated for a team everyone was expecting to be toe to toe against FNATIC for first place. This start from them is not looking good so far. I hope they improve.

brdreamer [#18]

Yes, like I said at #13, not saying Giants is bad for them not to struggle but it shouldn't be THAT complicated for a team everyone was expecting to be toe to toe against FNATIC for first place. This start from them is not looking good so far. I hope they improve.

Agreed

FightWasTaken [#14]

your point is somewhat valid, how is a team with this much individual quality struggling, is it the player's fault or doombros? 🤔

fault of stupid comps imo, never seen them playing optimal since that final game in LOCKIN
angel and doombros might be the problem lol

angels1query [#20]

fault of stupid comps imo, never seen them playing optimal since that final game in LOCKIN
angel and doombros might be the problem lol

i was thinking the same thing, do you think doombros is picking the comp, is it ange1 or someone else 🤔?

FightWasTaken [#21]

i was thinking the same thing, do you think doombros is picking the comp, is it ange1 or someone else 🤔?

both probably, but ik angel likes to try stupid stuff xD

FightWasTaken [#21]

i was thinking the same thing, do you think doombros is picking the comp, is it ange1 or someone else 🤔?

It's complicated to know but if I have minimal space to say: I don't like that Cypher at Icebox at all...