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Liquid is hopeless

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#1
Dwighty

TL will not win anything unless they kick Redgar.
Redgar is the problem.
The system they have is clearly not working.
Inb4 "it's just one series"
That series clearly exposed TL's issues
They need to rebuild from zero or it's over.

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torn_gucci_sandals
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my brother in christ, calm the fuck down. that is their first game together and there is HELLA more room to improve. Go drink a glass of water and play valorant.

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WinterZ
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pipe down lil bro, redgar owns you

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burritx
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Dwighty
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Registered: March 17, 2023
Last post: March 18, 2023 at 9:51 AM
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iammika1999
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Redgar isn't the problem, Soulcas is. The guy is really good but inconsistent

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Dwighty
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WinterZ [#3]

pipe down lil bro, redgar owns you

Cope. Redgar is one of the worst igls in EMEA.
Igls have always been the problem for liquid.
They need to fix it before the roster goes to shit again.

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Flyingcat
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I missed the part where that's my problem

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Mortadelo
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Redgar needs to adapt to English, but there is no better IGL's in EMEA rn. Only Ange1 and Boaster and then comes Redgar/Koldamenta

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Yessirskiiii
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Mortadelo [#8]

Redgar needs to adapt to English, but there is no better IGL's in EMEA rn. Only Ange1 and Boaster and then comes Redgar/Koldamenta

S-tier Ange1/Boaster
A-tier Redgar
B-tier Kolda
Fair? Just my opinion

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Pengu12
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Yessirskiiii [#9]

S-tier Ange1/Boaster
A-tier Redgar
B-tier Kolda
Fair? Just my opinion

I think Kolda is a aswell and bonecold is B

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Yessirskiiii
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Pengu12 [#10]

I think Kolda is a aswell and bonecold is B

I'm not as high on Kolda as it seems everyone else is, however i do think he's the clear number 4 IGL in EMEA

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Mortadelo
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Yessirskiiii [#9]

S-tier Ange1/Boaster
A-tier Redgar
B-tier Kolda
Fair? Just my opinion

It's really hard to rank IGL's without the comms, but yeah it's something like that. It all depends on what you value more consistency like kolda winning and brining several teams to LAN, or actually being an international Champion like Redgar or Bonecold.

I think that's def the top 5 but can't decide the order, do have to say I do not like Bonecold at all since he has had to stop IGLing several times on his teams, I don't think he is a pure IGL like the other 4

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Mortadelo [#12]

It's really hard to rank IGL's without the comms, but yeah it's something like that. It all depends on what you value more consistency like kolda winning and brining several teams to LAN, or actually being an international Champion like Redgar or Bonecold.

I think that's def the top 5 but can't decide the order, do have to say I do not like Bonecold at all since he has had to stop IGLing several times on his teams, I don't think he is a pure IGL like the other 4

Common Mortadelo W

#14
number1_ScreaM_fan
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Yessirskiiii [#9]

S-tier Ange1/Boaster
A-tier Redgar
B-tier Kolda
Fair? Just my opinion

U forgot s+ for scream

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Pengu12
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Yessirskiiii [#11]

I'm not as high on Kolda as it seems everyone else is, however i do think he's the clear number 4 IGL in EMEA

100% agree

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xD1LL4N
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iammika1999 [#5]

Redgar isn't the problem, Soulcas is. The guy is really good but inconsistent

No one on that team is the "problem" atm. The problem is the gameplan and synergy.

Sayf interview seems like a clash of ego's to who's approach is best for that game.

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emirerays
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Redgar isnt the problem he was in 2 grand finals he won 1 of them surely his igling is good i think the problem is soulcas is not enough to win a tournament and sayf nAts redgar jamppi do not have a good chemistry

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xD1LL4N [#16]

No one on that team is the "problem" atm. The problem is the gameplan and synergy.

Sayf interview seems like a clash of ego's to who's approach is best for that game.

Sayf has too much ego for not that big career.

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emirerays
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Pengu12 [#10]

I think Kolda is a aswell and bonecold is B

Switch kolda and bonecold

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xD1LL4N
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emirerays [#18]

Sayf has too much ego for not that big career.

I agree, having an ego isn't a bad thing but when it undermines the IGL it will cause problems.

Im not going to judge too quick because regard calling back on gambit seemed sometimes bad. Just cutting noise and rehitting sites isn't a consistent gameplan

#21
BackoxyXD
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bro said redgar is problem :skull:
redgar carrying team as a igl broo

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emirerays
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xD1LL4N [#20]

I agree, having an ego isn't a bad thing but when it undermines the IGL it will cause problems.

Im not going to judge too quick because regard calling back on gambit seemed sometimes bad. Just cutting noise and rehitting sites isn't a consistent gameplan

It was consistent at the time

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Martinao
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emirerays [#18]

Sayf has too much ego for not that big career.

Yes I watched his stream several times but had to turn it off because of his ego, this guy thinks he is aspas

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Dwighty [#6]

Cope. Redgar is one of the worst igls in EMEA.
Igls have always been the problem for liquid.
They need to fix it before the roster goes to shit again.

shut the fuck up redgar´s igling owned fns´s ass 3-0 and he is hype and wholesome af

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Dolphin
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While it's true that Team Liquid Valorant has struggled in some recent matches and tournaments, it's important to remember that success in competitive gaming is often a result of a team's overall synergy and strategy, not just the performance of individual players. Blaming a single player, such as Redgar, for a team's lack of success is not necessarily fair or accurate.

It's possible that there are other factors contributing to Team Liquid's struggles, such as communication issues, lack of preparation, or weaknesses in their overall team strategy. Additionally, making a drastic change like kicking a player and rebuilding from scratch is not always the best solution, as it can disrupt the team's chemistry and take time to adjust to a new player and playstyle.

Instead of solely blaming Redgar for Team Liquid's performance, it may be more productive to analyze the team's gameplay and strategy as a whole and identify areas where they can improve. It's also important to remember that success in esports is never guaranteed, and even top teams experience periods of struggle and growth.

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torn_gucci_sandals [#2]

my brother in christ, calm the fuck down. that is their first game together and there is HELLA more room to improve. Go drink a glass of water and play valorant.

thats what im sayin but people dont listen or care, same thing with sentinels obv people said a lot

#27
ConsistentCycles
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and how exactly is it redgars fault?

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Ryuji
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Nice joke ain't lauging allat

#29
L1NK_Lover
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Team Liquid Valorant is clearly missing L1nk

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cocoluna
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ConsistentCycles [#27]

and how exactly is it redgars fault?

Is there any teamspeak videos, I want to know how good he is at English.

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torn_gucci_sandals
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Coming back. Liquid qual for championes and mastur

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