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Best sentinel player

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#1
EdsonTresPernas

Why do people underestimate less? He was the only sentinel in the top 10 champions stats, performed very well in almost every series he played, killed 33 against optic and 27 against DRX and yet I see people putting him below many sentinels who haven't even played international championships.

the guy destroys all matches playing killjoy, cypher and viper and even so there are people who think he is not even top 20 in the world (even played chamber very well even though it is a function performed by duelists and awp players)

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he isn't a top 20 player but he is one of the best sentinels, suygetsu and nats are way ahead of everyone else tho

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EdsonTresPernas
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jawn [#2]

he isn't a top 20 player but he is one of the best sentinels, suygetsu and nats are way ahead of everyone else tho

how to say you haven't watched any less matches without saying you haven't watched any less matches

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jawn
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i have, he ain't top 20

#5
Mocratow
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Because he's not an NA or EMEA player.
If he were people would rate him very highly

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ExCPt
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I think he's just after suygetsu

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SAMPV6
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suygetsu literally exists

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brdreamer
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Mocratow [#5]

Because he's not an NA or EMEA player.
If he were people would rate him very highly

bullseye

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randomperson
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neT >

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koromast
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as i said once, non emea/na players need to do the triple of an NA/EMEA player to be considered top tier

less champions (17 yo btw youngest player to ever win): 1

nats and suygetsu: 0

#11
n1cf
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suygetsu nats & alfajer exists

#12
Rabbiit
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n1cf [#11]

suygetsu nats & alfajer exists

Bro said Alfajer

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wafters
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davidp underrated challenger for the #1 spot

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koromast
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n1cf [#11]

suygetsu nats & alfajer exists

BRO SNUCK ALFAJER IN (i love alfajer as entry tho)

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brahianv
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I seen Less play he has an incredible game sense. he is the player i analyse the most in LOUD because for me he is better that all those overrated NA and EU frauds. I also think he is the best player in LOUD too.

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brahianv [#15]

I seen Less play he has an incredible game sense. he is the player i analyse the most in LOUD because for me he is better that all those overrated NA and EU frauds. I also think he is the best player in LOUD too.

i also think he is the best player on that roster (imo aspas hasnt showed what he can achieve mechanically yet) and if he isnt he is the most consistent and for me thats what matters because his peak its just ferocious and he is always giving it all every round tbh.

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number1_MIBR_hater
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Mocratow [#5]

Because he's not an NA or EMEA player.
If he were people would rate him very highly

this unironically

#18
1mBor3d
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yay 2022 best sentinel

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brahianv [#15]

I seen Less play he has an incredible game sense. he is the player i analyse the most in LOUD because for me he is better that all those overrated NA and EU frauds. I also think he is the best player in LOUD too.

now that pancada is gone prolly is best player

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teilwal
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1mBor3d [#18]

yay 2022 best sentinel

🤓

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zfmarvin42
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jawn [#2]

he isn't a top 20 player but he is one of the best sentinels, suygetsu and nats are way ahead of everyone else tho

nahh

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1mBor3d [#19]

now that pancada is gone prolly is best player

pancada was the best on champions but less was 2nd at champions and first on masters 1 and 2

#23
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One thing I rate him highly on is his game sense, his overall awareness, positioning is so good for a person so young

#24
babysasuke
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Less is different

He will be one of the deciding factors of Loud keeping their clout post-Champions

We can only hope he keeps up his level of play

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lorenzopajaroFC
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Give it some more time and people will start seeing his true value, he’s never been a big media player even in Brazil

An interesting thing that saadhak said some days ago, he believes that if he were to retire in a couple of years he’s be sure that Less would be able to pick up igling for the team just as well as him

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MAHVEL
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even tho I dont like him from last years display, SUYGETSU!! Also NAtS, they are the demon sentinel players...Hazed for me is underrated sentinel player, some best in slot sentinels in NA prob STEEL and DAPR still...

but until LOCK/INN i think it's all up in the air, way too many new rosters and lineups for us to see and make any accurate predictions.

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lorenzopajaroFC
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MAHVEL [#26]

even tho I dont like him from last years display, SUYGETSU!! Also NAtS, they are the demon sentinel players...Hazed for me is underrated sentinel player, some best in slot sentinels in NA prob STEEL and DAPR still...

but until LOCK/INN i think it's all up in the air, way too many new rosters and lineups for us to see and make any accurate predictions.

Please tell me you didn’t just compare less to steel hazed and dapr

#28
cryptothrower21
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babyj solos

#29
meyournightmare
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tenz

#30
SamBR
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sad but true

#31
WinterZ
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Less is great, definitely a top 3 sentinel not just itw, but of all time.

I think the reason people aren't talking abt him and wrote him off has more to do with his poor performance in Copenhagen than the fact that he is Brazilian tho

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Dokka
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I mean as of right now, less suygetsu and nAts are the three most standout and dominant sentinels intw

But I agree Less gets less (haha) attention because immortals like suygetsu and nAts had already been established

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Aristia
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Less: 1 Champions
Other sentinels: ?

#34
derptz
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BabyJ clears less

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koromast
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Aristia [#33]

Less: 1 Champions
Other sentinels: ?

kiles: 😎

#36
flames-leleo
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koromast [#35]

kiles: 😎

I thought we are all talking about good players

#37
flames-leleo
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derptz [#34]

BabyJ clears less

Who?

#38
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koromast [#16]

i also think he is the best player on that roster (imo aspas hasnt showed what he can achieve mechanically yet) and if he isnt he is the most consistent and for me thats what matters because his peak its just ferocious and he is always giving it all every round tbh.

aspas is the best player. Every the players the loud think this.

#39
Zorontom
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He is not a player that can win you matches alone but I think Benkai is also very good playing Sentinel

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Lucaspinheiro [#38]

aspas is the best player. Every the players the loud think this.

i also think that but he hasnt proved it yet on the matches he has played tbh.

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YeaUrMum
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randomperson [#9]

neT >

Nice joke

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koromast [#40]

i also think that but he hasnt proved it yet on the matches he has played tbh.

What? Aspas didn't prove that he's the best in his matches for LOUD? LMFAO

#43
Aristia
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koromast [#35]

kiles: 😎

Sorry, just to people that won honesty, not like, losing thee first match

#44
GiancioZ
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randomperson [#9]

neT >

0/8

#45
GiancioZ
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wafters [#13]

davidp underrated challenger for the #1 spot

u still in 2020

#46
koromast
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Zorontom [#39]

He is not a player that can win you matches alone but I think Benkai is also very good playing Sentinel

clearly you havent watched less at all.

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MAHVEL [#26]

even tho I dont like him from last years display, SUYGETSU!! Also NAtS, they are the demon sentinel players...Hazed for me is underrated sentinel player, some best in slot sentinels in NA prob STEEL and DAPR still...

but until LOCK/INN i think it's all up in the air, way too many new rosters and lineups for us to see and make any accurate predictions.

bro thought we wouldn't notice he included hazed steel and dapr

#48
GiancioZ
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flames-leleo [#36]

I thought we are all talking about good players

kiles GOAT bro

#49
GiancioZ
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Zorontom [#39]

He is not a player that can win you matches alone but I think Benkai is also very good playing Sentinel

try to watch a single game of less maybe

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Zorontom
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koromast [#46]

clearly you havent watched less at all.

bruh you guys seriously need English lessons, I didn't even diss Less I just said Benkai is not a player who wins you matches alone but is good at the duties a Sentinel has to perform

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koromast
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Zorontom [#50]

bruh you guys seriously need English lessons, I didn't even diss Less I just said Benkai is not a player who wins you matches alone but is good at the duties a Sentinel has to perform

less is, and benkai is igl ofc he doesnt rely on his aim to make the difference on the game, thats why he has teammates.

#52
Adi69LassiSeller
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https://www.vlr.gg/player/8345/zexrow

#53
crashhacker1
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Although I do believe that some of the reason is he's not NA/EU but I think the major reason is that there's very less POV of him "popping off" so people dont have a set idea on his plays that make him great. there's less VODs of him actually try harding, like you do for many other pros in ranked. The only time he had plenty of screentime is during the finals (his cypher on breeze and chamber on haven) where he went ballistic is when people actually started rating him.

I dont know what lists you've been reading, brazil bro but, every list SINCE champions has him in top 5/10. Its a content issue from his POV, not much more imo.

#54
Kesarigggg
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koromast [#10]

as i said once, non emea/na players need to do the triple of an NA/EMEA player to be considered top tier

less champions (17 yo btw youngest player to ever win): 1

nats and suygetsu: 0

so what about kiles , he also has a champions win, is he better than nats and suygetsu too??

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Kesarigggg [#54]

so what about kiles , he also has a champions win, is he better than nats and suygetsu too??

bro compares less and kiles not ironically, its like saying nats and suygetsu are on ange1 level because he also has one masters bruh.

#56
flames-leleo
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GiancioZ [#48]

kiles GOAT bro

Bro he is not that good,trust me

#57
flames-leleo
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The truth is,if LOUD 2021 roster were north american the biggest part of north americans would treat them like Val Gods

#58
valorantCANbeWAYbetter
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less is top2 player minimum on these agents obviously.

for me he was the best in 2022 on viper/kj on par with suygetsu,
hard to say who was better, both smart with sick mechanics

#59
MAHVEL
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lorenzopajaroFC [#27]

Please tell me you didn’t just compare less to steel hazed and dapr

I said in NA but I get it, reading comprehension isn't your thing. I am not comparing, just stating my opinion.

#60
MAHVEL
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GiancioZ [#47]

bro thought we wouldn't notice he included hazed steel and dapr

https://tinyurl.com/3hjd9xn6

#61
Nbs
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I did think that he could be the best LOUD player when I was watching champs, but then again - they had 5 players that all were possibly the best player on LOUD.

2022 LOUD was absolutely stacked with talent, what an incredible team

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ItsHunter
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jawn [#2]

he isn't a top 20 player but he is one of the best sentinels, suygetsu and nats are way ahead of everyone else tho

suygetsu and nats are completely different. Nats is a bit like less in that he definitely plays the actual role of a sentinel pretty well but hes more just a really good lurker rather than a good sentinel.
Suygetsu isnt really a good sentinel in any sense of the word. Hes good at everything he does simply because he never misses and he has cracked ass movement. Bro is an aim and clutch god, doesnt mean hes the best at the role itself.
Id still give best sentinel to Less, hes similar to players like zombs in that he does his role so well that there are no stats that can really explain how much impact he has which causes people to under estimate them. Just like zombs was, Less is a huge factor as to why his team won a major.

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ItsHunter
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SAMPV6 [#7]

suygetsu literally exists

suygetsu is good because hes a good player. Taking him off the sentinel role wouldnt change that. Less however is actually good at the role itself. Ofc thatss not to take away from how good suygetsu is at playing sentinel its just that people rate him so highly not because of how he fills his role but because of his aim and fragging potential on a role that would typical not have much

#64
ItsHunter
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Kesarigggg [#54]

so what about kiles , he also has a champions win, is he better than nats and suygetsu too??

kiles was carried tho its different. Loud has some of the top players in the world on every role

#65
jawn
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ItsHunter [#62]

suygetsu and nats are completely different. Nats is a bit like less in that he definitely plays the actual role of a sentinel pretty well but hes more just a really good lurker rather than a good sentinel.
Suygetsu isnt really a good sentinel in any sense of the word. Hes good at everything he does simply because he never misses and he has cracked ass movement. Bro is an aim and clutch god, doesnt mean hes the best at the role itself.
Id still give best sentinel to Less, hes similar to players like zombs in that he does his role so well that there are no stats that can really explain how much impact he has which causes people to under estimate them. Just like zombs was, Less is a huge factor as to why his team won a major.

going by that logic yay,tenz and cned were never top duelists since they weren't the main entries and space creators

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Lucaspinheiro
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koromast [#40]

i also think that but he hasnt proved it yet on the matches he has played tbh.

Aspas didn't prove? Most impact player of loud.

#67
GiancioZ
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flames-leleo [#56]

Bro he is not that good,trust me

ik ik it's a joke kekw he's tier 2 imo

#68
Sk00d
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jawn [#2]

he isn't a top 20 player but he is one of the best sentinels, suygetsu and nats are way ahead of everyone else tho

common Jawn W

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