Why the fk TSM gets the most difficult team out of the 4 lmao...Always the same shit bruh
Edit: It actually turned out to be better lol. Now they play against the loser from C9 vs ADX, which is better than playing against NRG or SEN
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Head-to-head
Past Matches
pewpew [#1]Why the fk TSM gets the most difficult team out of the 4 lmao...Always the same shit bruh
Edit: It actually turned out to be better lol. Now they play against the loser from C9 vs ADX, which is better than playing against NRG or SEN
actually true though rofl
matthewdrl [#7]Immortals beat TSM 13-1 and 13-6, 2 weeks ago. I say IMT takes this series again 2-1.
That was 2 weeks ago... doesn't look like u saw today's game
pewpew [#1]Why the fk TSM gets the most difficult team out of the 4 lmao...Always the same shit bruh
Edit: It actually turned out to be better lol. Now they play against the loser from C9 vs ADX, which is better than playing against NRG or SEN
???? They didn't get SEN? R u serious
pewpew [#1]Why the fk TSM gets the most difficult team out of the 4 lmao...Always the same shit bruh
Edit: It actually turned out to be better lol. Now they play against the loser from C9 vs ADX, which is better than playing against NRG or SEN
immortals > sen? no no no
NSG_Observer_2 [#10]TSM 2-0 immortals average team jcStani really needs to be on for them to win but he is kinda ass so
Another shit take
100flukes [#11]???? They didn't get SEN? R u serious
They come from the same qualifier, course they won't get SEN. R u serious
GetsystheGr8 [#3]Rematch... TSM wins these no cap... hopefully
Lmao.... Cmon brother... TSM win these... Have confindence xD
beb0p [#13]immortals > sen? no no no
Sen comes from the same qualifier lol. TSM got the toughest team out of those 4.
salty [#12]I have my final exams when they are playing so if they lose here then my disappointment will be doubled Sadge
Bro you expecting to flop your exams? cmon man TSM win, you pass.. Lesgo!!!!
pewpew [#1]Why the fk TSM gets the most difficult team out of the 4 lmao...Always the same shit bruh
Edit: It actually turned out to be better lol. Now they play against the loser from C9 vs ADX, which is better than playing against NRG or SEN
TSM luck is always fucked.
100flukes [#15]If TSM plays like they did today it'll be a simple 2-0
Dude what's ur name? That's so out of date lol
fuck it, subroza and wardell are hot, Cutler isn’t being a total bot, i’m predicting a TSM win. i really shouldn’t get my hopes up to be crushed again... sigh.
It’s nice to see TSM finally win against quality opponents again. First Soniqs, who aren’t insane but still a quality team, and now Gen.G, both quality wins
100flukes [#11]???? They didn't get SEN? R u serious
sen was not in challengers 1... so they wouldnt have faced sentinels regardless
beb0p [#13]immortals > sen? no no no
beb0p didnt expect this from you.. since you follow scene this much you shouldve known how bracket works
WitLitning [#23]fuck it, subroza and wardell are hot, Cutler isn’t being a total bot, i’m predicting a TSM win. i really shouldn’t get my hopes up to be crushed again... sigh.
It’s nice to see TSM finally win against quality opponents again. First Soniqs, who aren’t insane but still a quality team, and now Gen.G, both quality wins
Haha same brotha. #TSMWIN for sure
GetsystheGr8 [#9]That was 2 weeks ago... doesn't look like u saw today's game
doesn't seem like you've seen TSM this entire year...In all seriousness, despite them looking good today, I still think IMT has the edge over TSM, they know how to counter wardell op and will have more VODs to review
GetsystheGr8 [#9]That was 2 weeks ago... doesn't look like u saw today's game
Yes Wardell and Roza popped off but GenG lowkey looked ass today, this was prolly one of their worst showings.
rohanxyz [#31]Immortals will probably win if they are smart enough to counter WARDELL, Unless roza pops off.
Also why is drone not on Phoenix nowdays? He was the probably the best phoenix NA( maybe behind SicK).
rohanxyz [#32]Also why is drone not on Phoenix nowdays? He was the probably the best phoenix NA( maybe behind SicK).
Drone wasn't fragging out on Phoenix and he wasn't comfortable playing any other duelist so they had to put him on another set of agent to improve the versatility on TSM side.
rohanxyz [#32]Also why is drone not on Phoenix nowdays? He was the probably the best phoenix NA( maybe behind SicK).
Drone had been kinda stagnant on Phoenix recently, and he still balls out on Sova. I’m totally fine with that move. His Raze was good yesterday, too.
WitLitning [#34]Drone had been kinda stagnant on Phoenix recently, and he still balls out on Sova. I’m totally fine with that move. His Raze was good yesterday, too.
He didnt play raze, sova all the way
Rizvi [#35]He didnt play raze, sova all the way
Drone played Raze on Split, but not yesterday. Two days ago I think, my bad.
dissa [#14]Another shit take
NSG_Observer_2 doesn't specialized in funny shit takes, he specializes in just regular shitty ones.
GetsystheGr8 [#22]Dude what's ur name? That's so out of date lol
tsm fans still gotta keep it in mind
pewpew [#39]I think the problem just comes down to the strats and IGL tbh. Even C9 won against Immortals and I don't think C9's aim is better than TSM. TSM just has bad in-game reactions and it seems like the IGL is always lost as well lol.
Hazed has been IGL-ing over Cutler recently, hopefully that continues. His leadership compliments Subroza a lot more.
pewpew [#39]I think the problem just comes down to the strats and IGL tbh. Even C9 won against Immortals and I don't think C9's aim is better than TSM. TSM just has bad in-game reactions and it seems like the IGL is always lost as well lol.
TSM is always easy to lose focus when playing, and when they lose a few rounds, they have a hard time getting up and winning the other rounds. in the last match against Gen.G, TSM lost 5 consecutive rounds in the haven map, that's a worry. although in the end they were able to win. The appearance of TSM is always like that.
that's just my opinion after seeing TSM's game after they lost by 100T in First Strike final. After that, their appearance was extremely unstable. even though in 2020, their performances / games are good and stable, for example by beating Sentinels, C9B, etc., in various tournaments and winning tournaments.
LazyNorn [#42]TSM is always easy to lose focus when playing, and when they lose a few rounds, they have a hard time getting up and winning the other rounds. in the last match against Gen.G, TSM lost 5 consecutive rounds in the haven map, that's a worry. although in the end they were able to win. The appearance of TSM is always like that.
that's just my opinion after seeing TSM's game after they lost by 100T in First Strike final. After that, their appearance was extremely unstable. even though in 2020, their performances / games are good and stable, for example by beating Sentinels, C9B, etc., in various tournaments and winning tournaments.
Yes, have to agree here. They’re very momentum based, losing and winning rounds in big chunks. For example, they started 5-0 against LG on Ascent and proceeded to lose 6 in a row (later losing the game itself).
Gen.G scared me on both maps for that reason. 9-0 finished as a 13-6, and 9-3 ended as a 13-9. However, these games may actually help TSM’s mental. They’ve proven to themselves that they can hold off a mid-map surge from their opponent and prevent a comeback.
GetsystheGr8 [#22]Dude what's ur name? That's so out of date lol
it's funny to see 100t fans pressed
GetsystheGr8 [#9]That was 2 weeks ago... doesn't look like u saw today's game
yup i did watch it, one match doesn't prove that TSM can be consistently good unlike Immortals who have been much more consistent as of this year
Immortals is a weird one. Like they've lost to teams like C9 and LG (no offense to LG) but then occasionally beat Envy and Sentinels.
Not sure how much I should consider the last match up between Immortals vs TSM cause that just looked like a hard throw or a very bad showing.
I'd say TSM 2-1 just based off of the GenG game. Not sure how much I should consider that game either though Wardell looked solid. Subroza found a decent amount of consistency in that game as well.
Insyte [#28]doesn't seem like you've seen TSM this entire year...In all seriousness, despite them looking good today, I still think IMT has the edge over TSM, they know how to counter wardell op and will have more VODs to review
Ima come to this all yall haters trippin
Insyte [#28]doesn't seem like you've seen TSM this entire year...In all seriousness, despite them looking good today, I still think IMT has the edge over TSM, they know how to counter wardell op and will have more VODs to review
if you look at the head to head between tsm and immortals tsm has won the majority of their matchups. they only lost as bad as they did in the last match up because they swapped their igl (hazed) with brax, comms were probably bad and plays may have not been coordinated because of this. there was also very poor individual performance from wardell and subroza. wardell couldnt hit any op shots and it wasn't even because they were countering him, he was just simply whiffing. however now they have returned to their original lineup (with hazed) and switched subroza to play skye where he has had a massive improvement in performance. this series will most likely be very different from the last.
Dylxn [#30]If Wardell decides to go crazy again this will be a easy 2-0 for TSM, if it’s normal TSM i expect an IMT win
I mean normal TSM is insanely good. If we're talking about recent TSM then we can expect IMT to win since recent TSM has been pretty terrible but If they keep up what they are doing right now I feel they could go back to where they used to be.
Eliasnov [#20]Bro you expecting to flop your exams? cmon man TSM win, you pass.. Lesgo!!!!
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, THATS THE SPIRIT!!!!!!!!
salty [#12]I have my final exams when they are playing so if they lose here then my disappointment will be doubled Sadge
Hey right there with you, I have finals too
pewpew [#1]Why the fk TSM gets the most difficult team out of the 4 lmao...Always the same shit bruh
Edit: It actually turned out to be better lol. Now they play against the loser from C9 vs ADX, which is better than playing against NRG or SEN
Why tf is this a question when there is a losers bracket? There's also 4 qualifier spots, both for LB finals and WB finals...
If a team cannot qualify with this type of elimination structure because they fell into LB, they likely did not deserve qualifying anyways.
Yagami [#19]Sen comes from the same qualifier lol. TSM got the toughest team out of those 4.
i mean c9 defeated imm so...
Dylxn [#30]If Wardell decides to go crazy again this will be a easy 2-0 for TSM, if it’s normal TSM i expect an IMT win
Yea I agree
GetsystheGr8 [#75]Fuck my life... Cutler needs to be taken tf out... he doesn't bring anything to the table that Brax doesn't have... Brax has better mechanics and game sense no cap
this guy went 2 and fucking 16. ACS 55
Good old problems from TSM yet again. When they start losing, they do not know how to recover and it's always only Drone getting some picks. Subroza and Wardell unable to open up space while Cutler and Hazed are just losing gun fights. I just don't see any possibilities from this roster to compete at the highest level again.
beb0p [#87]I HAVE LOST HOPE WITH T1, TSM, AND FAZE CLAN! 100T IS MY ONLY HOPE!!!
100T will show up theyre just diff
Yagami [#21]TSM luck is always fucked.
it has nothing to do with luck, the matchups are not random it is based on seeding from the qualifiers
Yagami [#19]Sen comes from the same qualifier lol. TSM got the toughest team out of those 4.
C9 is so much fucking better than IMT rn so ur wrong.
SamTheGreat47 [#97]100T only consistent team in NA rn???? It's looking like so.
Valorant is still so new to the competitive scene that we legit don't know what to expect...
Either way it's entertaining.
Even 100t has had their fair share of inconsistency, although Ethan has proven to be a great pickup. Definitely agree on the entertainment point!
SamTheGreat47 [#97]100T only consistent team in NA rn???? It's looking like so.
Valorant is still so new to the competitive scene that we legit don't know what to expect...
Either way it's entertaining.
Bruh just forget about XSET and Nv... anyways it was only 1 map... do u think 100T wins every map they play?
pewpew [#107]Feel like TSM loses Bind, goes lower brackets against BBG, wins against BBG, and TSM goes against Immortals again (IMM vs NRG, NRG will win).
TSM can't possibly go against IMT until like lower finals if they make it because of how the brackets work.
salty [#108]Bro why are people so pressed if someone bottom frags? Like kills are not the only thing that matter and its not worth sending players death threats and harassing them.
of course its not worth it. People that do that (death threats and harassing) are just plain stupid fks. But I think decent critiques (what the majority is doing) should be done for the better.
SamTheGreat47 [#114]TSM can't possibly go against IMT until like lower finals if they make it because of how the brackets work.
really? so i guess the loser between C9 vs AndBox goes against the winner of BBG vs TSM? (assuming TSM goes to lower brackets after losing vs Immortals)
pewpew [#118]I have counted the crucial fights that Cutler lost and he lost 4 gun fights that could've won them the round... Sadge, what can I say.
He plays on 80+ ping u try to win a gunfight when the entire enemy team has 20 ping lmfao
GetsystheGr8 [#121]0 ping fucking warriors.... this is why they get shit on teams that live near Central
Last time IMT beat TSM it was beacause Brax was playing instead of Hazed, now its because IMT has less ping than TSM. Pick an excuse!
GetsystheGr8 [#121]0 ping fucking warriors.... this is why they get shit on teams that live near Central
No way you're this delusional. TSM lost bc they suck, not bc of ping
matthewdrl [#123]Immortals are really proving they can be a Top 5 team NA
Good old days when Immortals would play like the current Renegades lol.
100flukes [#125]No way you're this delusional. TSM lost bc they suck, not bc of ping
Tf... u try playing on 80+ ping lmfao... come back to me once u try
Rush112 [#109]brax isnt a smoke player hes a sentinal player so it wont work out
Can easily put hazed on smoker then brax play sentinel, no? So obvious
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