Can i hear more of your opinions?
babysasuke [#5]Let me summarize Olofboost’s opinions:
European supremacy, Asia and Africa are better off for being colonized, trans people should not speak
Zzzzzzzzzz actual irl incel 💀💀💀
rare babysasuke W
ambo69 [#3]he deserves a rematch after you kicked his ass :(
god knows how long i've been waiting for the reaction time argument so he never really had a chance tbh. i'm always open to other opinions tho, and will do my research accordingly.
babysasuke [#5]Let me summarize Olofboost’s opinions:
European supremacy, Asia and Africa are better off for being colonized, trans people should not speak
Zzzzzzzzzz actual irl incel 💀💀💀
babysasuke, your baits are mediocre, but by god you have the best actual opinions.
Rare vlr user W
ambo69 [#3]he deserves a rematch after you kicked his ass :(
Kicked what? He had no normal counter argument towards 23ms difference
Olofboost [#10]Kicked what? He had no normal counter argument towards 23ms difference
yeah the 23ms difference it took for your mother to drop you after seeing your face
ambo69 [#11]yeah the 23ms difference it took for your mother to drop you after seeing your face
Funny thing is throughout the entire conversation I never offended someone personally, and whoever decides to prove me wrong uses slurs. Why is that? Can you even keep the forum polite?
Olofboost [#10]Kicked what? He had no normal counter argument towards 23ms difference
i never debated you on the fact that there was a difference i simply provided reasons on why it doesnt fucking matter
ash_knuckles [#15]i never debated you on the fact that there was a difference i simply provided reasons on why it doesnt fucking matter
It does matter. Maybe it will matter less once a biological girl shows up and makes her way into tier2 or tier1. But it didn't happen yet.
Olofboost [#14]Funny thing is throughout the entire conversation I never offended someone personally, and whoever decides to prove me wrong uses slurs. Why is that? Can you even keep the forum polite?
i never used slurs on you olofboost-kun (✿◠‿◠)
Olofboost [#16]It does matter. Maybe it will matter less once a biological girl shows up and makes her way into tier2 or tier1. But it didn't happen yet.
what tf does this even mean lmfao im done. Have a nice day mr.olof.
P.S: pretty sure sarah and noia( the best of a decent lot) can hold their own in tier2 as individual players but believe what you want idc
Olofboost [#14]Funny thing is throughout the entire conversation I never offended someone personally, and whoever decides to prove me wrong uses slurs. Why is that? Can you even keep the forum polite?
no one said any slurs, its clear you can't speak English, maybe that's why you sound so stupid in your arguments
gamr [#20]no one said any slurs, its clear you can't speak English, maybe that's why you sound so stupid in your arguments
Maybe you go back and re-read the entire thread?
andrewdamf [#13]imagine arguing so much over something so dumb that the thread gets locked
yall some losers fr
💀
my b lmfao got a tad too excited
ash_knuckles [#18]what tf does this even mean lmfao im done. Have a nice day mr.olof.
P.S: pretty sure sarah and noia( the best of a decent lot) can hold their own in tier2 as individual players but believe what you want idc
Until they are actually competing in tier2 (which is Ascension or at least close to Ascension level), no, they can't hold their own.
Olofboost [#23]Until they are actually competing in tier2 (which is Ascension or at least close to Ascension level), no, they can't hold their own.
ok
andrewdamf [#13]imagine arguing so much over something so dumb that the thread gets locked
yall some losers fr
💀
Were they arguing on the flor thread?
ash_knuckles [#28]can u guys PLEASE just kiss already
i WISH, but sadly he doesnt want to :(
(repressed homosexuality)
ambo69 [#27]rent free
says the guy targeting me for no reason in the last week
dont worry lil bro i dont know you
babysasuke [#29]Were they arguing on the flor thread?
https://www.vlr.gg/166105/question-about-florescent/?parent=1756412
shit was gonna get locked anyway lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0sCkTocny8&ab_channel=betwayesports
As you can xantares(186ms) has a much slower reaction time than hunter(164ms) but as most would agree xantares has better aim. Also, its not like reaction time cant be trained. Over time, your reaction time improves. Also, reacting to a major color change is different than an enemy peeking you. I actually tested my reaction time and it is 176 ms which is faster than xantares does that mean that I am even close to the player he is, HELL NO.
GravityMalware [#34]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0sCkTocny8&ab_channel=betwayesports
As you can xantares(186ms) has a much slower reaction time than hunter(164ms) but as most would agree xantares has better aim. Also, its not like reaction time cant be trained. Over time, your reaction time improves. Also, reacting to a major color change is different than an enemy peeking you. I actually tested my reaction time and it is 176 ms which is faster than xantares does that mean that I am even close to the player he is, HELL NO.
in FPS games, you can also technically cheat reaction time if you "anticipate" the opponent peeking in a particular spot in a particular frame of time, similar to how tenz achieves a reaction time of 95ms (this isnt humanly possible) in this vid simply by simply ANTICIPATING the time the green screen was gonna show up and sort of pre-clicking it https://youtu.be/1N_6kFDQRaE (this has been done many times before by many people)
there are soo many other counteracting factors but mods locked the thread before i could finish ;(
ash_knuckles [#35]in FPS games, you can also technically cheat reaction time if you "anticipate" the opponent peeking in a particular spot in a particular frame of time, similar to how tenz achieves a reaction time of 95ms (this isnt humanly possible) in this vid simply by simply ANTICIPATING the time the green screen was gonna show up and sort of pre-clicking it https://youtu.be/1N_6kFDQRaE (this has been done many times before by many people)
there are soo many other counteracting factors but mods locked the thread before i could finish ;(
also even if reaction time was all that was needed for aim that still wouldn't make you that good. There are many other aspects to valorant. If aim was everything all those top leaderboards on aimlabs on kovaaks would always be the best pro players which is just not true.
GravityMalware [#36]also even if reaction time was all that was needed for aim that still wouldn't make you that good. There are many other aspects to valorant. If aim was everything all those top leaderboards on aimlabs on kovaaks would always be the best pro players which is just not true.
reaction time matters alot for OPers
ash_knuckles [#35]in FPS games, you can also technically cheat reaction time if you "anticipate" the opponent peeking in a particular spot in a particular frame of time, similar to how tenz achieves a reaction time of 95ms (this isnt humanly possible) in this vid simply by simply ANTICIPATING the time the green screen was gonna show up and sort of pre-clicking it https://youtu.be/1N_6kFDQRaE (this has been done many times before by many people)
there are soo many other counteracting factors but mods locked the thread before i could finish ;(
I don't think the video of tenz is similar to using information and cues to react faster. In the clip he simply blindly guesses and gets lucky.
acels2 [#38]reaction time matters alot for OPers
then why does device have a worse reaction time than hunter. Wouldnt it make sense for hunter to become an awper because reaction time matters more. Also device is one of the best awpers of all time with a 176 ms reaction time (same as me) and I am a trash player who was never good.
GravityMalware [#40]then why does device have a worse reaction time than hunter. Wouldnt it make sense for hunter to become an awper because reaction time matters more. Also device is one of the best awpers of all time with a 176 ms reaction time (same as me) and I am a trash player who was never good.
bc he doesnt like to awp? also ure acting as if thats the undisputed proof that hunter is faster than dev1ce but actually its low sample size
acels2 [#42]bc he doesnt like to awp? also ure acting as if thats the undisputed proof that hunter is faster than dev1ce but actually its low sample size
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXRZS3huy-g&ab_channel=AniNation
s1mple 190ms reaction time
again i have 176 ms and I'm complete crap at awping
also this "Also, reacting to a major color change is different than an enemy peeking you"
GravityMalware [#43]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXRZS3huy-g&ab_channel=AniNation
s1mple 190ms reaction time
again i have 176 ms and I'm complete crap at awping
also this "Also, reacting to a major color change is different than an enemy peeking you"
ok u just disputed ur own point
GravityMalware [#43]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXRZS3huy-g&ab_channel=AniNation
s1mple 190ms reaction time
again i have 176 ms and I'm complete crap at awping
also this "Also, reacting to a major color change is different than an enemy peeking you"
dude, you're not wrong in general. but stop using this website reaction time results to act like its actually their reaction time. theres layers to that which u need to research first
acels2 [#44]ok u just disputed ur own point
please explain. Your original statement is "reaction time matters alot for OPers".
GravityMalware [#46]please explain. Your original statement is "reaction time matters alot for OPers".
as u said colour change and reaction time to enemy is different. s1mple might have a faster reaction time in reality and he does, as seen from the flicks him and m0nesy are hitting
andrewdamf [#45]dude, you're not wrong in general. but stop using this website reaction time results to act like its actually their reaction time. theres layers to that which u need to research first
but the reaction time of this website is more useful because its how quickly you can click on reaction. like a normal test would be how quickly your brain can react to a stimuli which is not as related to valorant.
acels2 [#47]as u said colour change and reaction time to enemy is different. s1mple might have a faster reaction time in reality and he does, as seen from the flicks him and m0nesy are hitting
reacting to a color change is easier and faster than a couple of pixels changing on your screen
GravityMalware [#49]reacting to a color change is easier and faster than a couple of pixels changing on your screen
ok ill change my question. are u denying that having fast reaction like m0nesy is bad?
correlation between reaction speed and performance
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/v0fb3k/pglmajor_we_decided_to_compare_the_awp_players/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
acels2 [#50]ok ill change my question. are u denying that having fast reaction like m0nesy is bad?
correlation between reaction speed and performance
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/v0fb3k/pglmajor_we_decided_to_compare_the_awp_players/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
if you have two people with identical aim then when holding an angle the person with faster reaction time will be better (at least with awp). flicking isn't as based on reaction time and more on timing your click. also stuff like peekers advantage and distance from angle will also most likely have more of an effect on the input time than the difference in reaction time.
also this comment "Time to Damage.
What is TTD (Time to Damage)?
It's the average time it took you from seeing the enemy player to dealing damage to them. TTD is NOT the reaction time. It consists from your accuracy, reaction time & accuracy, weapons fire rate in the game.
How do we calculate it?
We calculate the time from the moment you are seeing the enemy to the moment you deal the damage to them. We also take in account the weapons' fire rate in the game to count the numbers through the theory of incomplete and censored distributions."
GravityMalware [#51]if you have two people with identical aim then when holding an angle the person with faster reaction time will be better (at least with awp). flicking isn't as based on reaction time and more on timing your click. also stuff like peekers advantage and distance from angle will also most likely have more of an effect on the input time than the difference in reaction time.
also this comment "Time to Damage.What is TTD (Time to Damage)?
It's the average time it took you from seeing the enemy player to dealing damage to them. TTD is NOT the reaction time. It consists from your accuracy, reaction time & accuracy, weapons fire rate in the game.
How do we calculate it?
We calculate the time from the moment you are seeing the enemy to the moment you deal the damage to them. We also take in account the weapons' fire rate in the game to count the numbers through the theory of incomplete and censored distributions."
so basically the faster awper shoots first and is better. thanks for supporting my argument
acels2 [#52]so basically the faster awper shoots first and is better. thanks for supporting my argument
idk if you have seen the edit "Time to Damage.
What is TTD (Time to Damage)?
It's the average time it took you from seeing the enemy player to dealing damage to them. TTD is NOT the reaction time. It consists from your accuracy, reaction time & accuracy, weapons fire rate in the game.
How do we calculate it?
We calculate the time from the moment you are seeing the enemy to the moment you deal the damage to them. We also take in account the weapons' fire rate in the game to count the numbers through the theory of incomplete and censored distributions."
also s1mple >> monesy even though money faster reaction time. I'm saying that if all other variables are equal, in which most cases they aren't then reaction time will have a minimal impact. but if the other variables are equal than reaction time is not that important.
GravityMalware [#53]idk if you have seen the edit "Time to Damage.
What is TTD (Time to Damage)?
It's the average time it took you from seeing the enemy player to dealing damage to them. TTD is NOT the reaction time. It consists from your accuracy, reaction time & accuracy, weapons fire rate in the game.
How do we calculate it?
We calculate the time from the moment you are seeing the enemy to the moment you deal the damage to them. We also take in account the weapons' fire rate in the game to count the numbers through the theory of incomplete and censored distributions."
also s1mple >> monesy even though money faster reaction time. I'm saying that if all other variables are equal, in which most cases they aren't then reaction time will have a minimal impact. but if the other variables are equal than reaction time is not that important.
bruh i dont even know waht to reply u. it doesnt matter that TTD=/= reaction time. we all know that m0nesy is the fastest awper in the world
acels2 [#54]bruh i dont even know waht to reply u. it doesnt matter that TTD=/= reaction time. we all know that m0nesy is the fastest awper in the world
he isnt the best speed =/ performance. the original point is speed is most important thing for awpers
GravityMalware [#55]he isnt the best speed =/ performance. the original point is speed is most important thing for awpers
s1mple is fast af too. just compare him with awpers like osee jame cadian wtv
queueK [#39]I don't think the video of tenz is similar to using information and cues to react faster. In the clip he simply blindly guesses and gets lucky.
i agree its a poor example, but it proves the same thing,more or less. he anticipates it, and gets lucky on timing.
queueK [#39]I don't think the video of tenz is similar to using information and cues to react faster. In the clip he simply blindly guesses and gets lucky.
That blind guess is more reliable in-game because you have game sense and can reliably do the guesses.