- NAVI
- Fnatic
- Liquid
- Vitality
- KOI
- KCORP
- Gigants
- BBL
- FUT
- Heretics
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Valgod [#5]How is fut better than heretics after losing every game this off-season?
FUT clearly was trying new stuff and did a little bit of trolling. For exampel 3 smokers on bind. They won the vrl tournament, and when fokus got moved up, they did okey. We have also already seen this team before as g2. They were bad. Role clashes and more.
TipTop [#11]FUT clearly was trying new stuff and did a little bit of trolling. For exampel 3 smokers on bind. They won the vrl tournament, and when fokus got moved up, they did okey. We have also already seen this team before as g2. They were bad. Role clashes and more.
Have you watched any of the off season games?
No way you rate Giants under KCorp... NaVi, FNC, TL could all be 1st and KOI, GIA, VIT could all be 4th or even higher. Also Heretics higher than FUT and BBL because even though they are kinda washed and inconsistent their peaks and likely average level is going to be higher than the Turkish teams I think (and likely KCorp but hard to say).
- NaVi (ability to anti-strat and change styles completely with really good roster)
- Fnatic (insane roster and has shown the ability to be top of EMEA)
- Liquid (really good roster, but might struggle due to Redgar IGLing in English for first time, also out of top 3 I think they will be more inconsistent)
- Giants (Rhyme's leading is still unknown, but their roster is really good and I liked what I saw from them in G-loot considering the time, might still have role issues)
- KOI (Koldamenta, Sheydos and Trexx core is really good and is even underrated by some, but its hard to say how Wolfen does in tier 1. Also not sure about the roles)
- Vitality (I think this team will be really good when they gel up even more, but I also think their peak might not be as high as others on top, but they could fight for higher spots)
- Heretics (just too inconsistent to reach higher and I don't think their ceiling will be that high)
- KCorp (they still have Scream and Nivera's peaks are really good, also get boost by communicating in French. But Newzera and Shin will pull this team down most likely)
- BBL (just not exciting. They look ok and then bad again. Same BBL as always not much changed)
- FUT (I think their recent showings talk for themselves.)
patuj [#16]No way you rate Giants under KCorp... NaVi, FNC, TL could all be 1st and KOI, GIA, VIT could all be 4th or even higher. Also Heretics higher than FUT and BBL because even though they are kinda washed and inconsistent their peaks and likely average level is going to be higher than the Turkish teams I think (and likely KCorp but hard to say).
- NaVi (ability to anti-strat and change styles completely with really good roster)
- Fnatic (insane roster and has shown the ability to be top of EMEA)
- Liquid (really good roster, but might struggle due to Redgar IGLing in English for first time, also out of top 3 I think they will be more inconsistent)
- Giants (Rhyme's leading is still unknown, but their roster is really good and I liked what I saw from them in G-loot considering the time, might still have role issues)
- KOI (Koldamenta, Sheydos and Trexx core is really good and is even underrated by some, but its hard to say how Wolfen does in tier 1. Also not sure about the roles)
- Vitality (I think this team will be really good when they gel up even more, but I also think their peak might not be as high as others on top, but they could fight for higher spots)
- Heretics (just too inconsistent to reach higher and I don't think their ceiling will be that high)
- KCorp (they still have Scream and Nivera's peaks are really good, also get boost by communicating in French. But Newzera and Shin will pull this team down most likely)
- BBL (just not exciting. They look ok and then bad again. Same BBL as always not much changed)
- FUT (I think their recent showings talk for themselves.)
Imo KOI has insane potential and could even be the best.
FUT is definitely Tier 2 team.
patuj [#16]No way you rate Giants under KCorp... NaVi, FNC, TL could all be 1st and KOI, GIA, VIT could all be 4th or even higher. Also Heretics higher than FUT and BBL because even though they are kinda washed and inconsistent their peaks and likely average level is going to be higher than the Turkish teams I think (and likely KCorp but hard to say).
- NaVi (ability to anti-strat and change styles completely with really good roster)
- Fnatic (insane roster and has shown the ability to be top of EMEA)
- Liquid (really good roster, but might struggle due to Redgar IGLing in English for first time, also out of top 3 I think they will be more inconsistent)
- Giants (Rhyme's leading is still unknown, but their roster is really good and I liked what I saw from them in G-loot considering the time, might still have role issues)
- KOI (Koldamenta, Sheydos and Trexx core is really good and is even underrated by some, but its hard to say how Wolfen does in tier 1. Also not sure about the roles)
- Vitality (I think this team will be really good when they gel up even more, but I also think their peak might not be as high as others on top, but they could fight for higher spots)
- Heretics (just too inconsistent to reach higher and I don't think their ceiling will be that high)
- KCorp (they still have Scream and Nivera's peaks are really good, also get boost by communicating in French. But Newzera and Shin will pull this team down most likely)
- BBL (just not exciting. They look ok and then bad again. Same BBL as always not much changed)
- FUT (I think their recent showings talk for themselves.)
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Uxind [#17]Imo KOI has insane potential and could even be the best.
FUT is definitely Tier 2 team.
Yeah KOI has a lot of potential and is crazy to me how some people like George Geddes (lol) calls them meh. Koldamenta is one of the best IGLs in EMEA and even in world if you think about it. He led Acend, G2 and Guild to good success. Also polished multiple young players like cNed, keloqz(ehh) and Trexx, so I think its good place for Wolfen to evolve into tier 1 player. Sheydos and Trexx are just really good and flexible. I'm not highest on starxo, but I also think that people are underrating him quite a lot. Acend was a mess and he always had to slot into different roles kind of how soulcas did on Liquid.
I'm not just sure about Wolfen yet because I think he needs quite a lot of polishing still and the roles are bit uncertain because there's a lot of overlap. Sheydos will likely play initiators, Koldamenta smokes, but it is unknown will Wolfen stick to sentinels or potentially move to duelist role as heavy OP player. Trexx is known for flex/entry, but so is starxo. So we will have to see who will be their sentinel player and who will play agents like Jett if needed.
patuj [#21]Yeah KOI has a lot of potential and is crazy to me how some people like George Geddes (lol) calls them meh. Koldamenta is one of the best IGLs in EMEA and even in world if you think about it. He led Acend, G2 and Guild to good success. Also polished multiple young players like cNed, keloqz(ehh) and Trexx, so I think its good place for Wolfen to evolve into tier 1 player. Sheydos and Trexx are just really good and flexible. I'm not highest on starxo, but I also think that people are underrating him quite a lot. Acend was a mess and he always had to slot into different roles kind of how soulcas did on Liquid.
I'm not just sure about Wolfen yet because I think he needs quite a lot of polishing still and the roles are bit uncertain because there's a lot of overlap. Sheydos will likely play initiators, Koldamenta smokes, but it is unknown will Wolfen stick to sentinels or potentially move to duelist role as heavy OP player. Trexx is known for flex/entry, but so is starxo. So we will have to see who will be their sentinel player and who will play agents like Jett if needed.
Most likely wolfen will play Jett and trexx will play raze if needed.
patuj [#21]Yeah KOI has a lot of potential and is crazy to me how some people like George Geddes (lol) calls them meh. Koldamenta is one of the best IGLs in EMEA and even in world if you think about it. He led Acend, G2 and Guild to good success. Also polished multiple young players like cNed, keloqz(ehh) and Trexx, so I think its good place for Wolfen to evolve into tier 1 player. Sheydos and Trexx are just really good and flexible. I'm not highest on starxo, but I also think that people are underrating him quite a lot. Acend was a mess and he always had to slot into different roles kind of how soulcas did on Liquid.
I'm not just sure about Wolfen yet because I think he needs quite a lot of polishing still and the roles are bit uncertain because there's a lot of overlap. Sheydos will likely play initiators, Koldamenta smokes, but it is unknown will Wolfen stick to sentinels or potentially move to duelist role as heavy OP player. Trexx is known for flex/entry, but so is starxo. So we will have to see who will be their sentinel player and who will play agents like Jett if needed.
My guess is when they play Jett, they're gonna have Wolfen play it and Trexx be the sentinel, and when they need raze they will have Trexx play it and Wolfen be the sentinel. And Koldamenta kill be main smoker but starxo can play smokes too when they play double controller, I don't think they will have much problem, they all play everything
Mortadelo [#25]My guess is when they play Jett, they're gonna have Wolfen play it and Trexx be the sentinel, and when they need raze they will have Trexx play it and Wolfen be the sentinel. And Koldamenta kill be main smoker but starxo can play smokes too when they play double controller, I don't think they will have much problem, they all play everything
That could make sense. They are all flexible so it should be fine.
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