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Nah great showing from them tbh. I didn't and don't expect much from them but they still managed to have really close 3 maps vs team that some people predict to be top 2 in Americas lol. With like month of pracc as well. But they def showed potential and happy to see great performances from keloqz on Ascent and Boo proving that he can be top tier IGL calling and even fragging wise.
juugobr_ [#8]????? explain your point
bcs heretics is a new team, they lost to a team that has been solid this year and changed just one player
His point is that he is Spanish teams hater number 1, basically
babysasuke [#6]agreed
if only we had some statistics that showed m0xwell + keloqz = mid mid mid
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Mortadelo [#11]His point is that he is Spanish teams hater number 1, basically
not true, they are just a bad team with bad players, so many players better than these bots
idkbro [#13]not true, they are just a bad team with bad players, so many players better than these bots
Don't you realize that's giving me the reason, yk that's not a reason. Dude just asked you to explain your point and your answer keeps being their bots
Mortadelo [#15]Don't you realize that's giving me the reason, yk that's not a reason. Dude just asked you to explain your point and your answer keeps being their bots
My point? Its simple, they are bad players. Also why are you lying? I think KOI and Giants are great, I have nothing against spanish teams I just hate Heretics, its everything that I hate in a team
juugobr_ [#8]????? explain your point
bcs heretics is a new team, they lost to a team that has been solid this year and changed just one player
Bad players, there are better free agents than these guys
kkona12345 [#10]i think they have potential to be a top 5 team in emea at best but they are still new and also mixwell,avova and keloqz are not the most reliable they will have to change atleast avova or mixwell if they wanna challenge the top teams
no way lmao, giants koi liquid fnatic vitality and navi are 100% better, heretics would be lucky to be better than bbl fut or kc
idkbro [#16]My point? Its simple, they are bad players. Also why are you lying? I think KOI and Giants are great, I have nothing against spanish teams I just hate Heretics, its everything that I hate in a team
And again, "they're bad" it's not an argument
Mortadelo [#19]And again, "they're bad" it's not an argument
It is, its vlr I wont explain why I think they are bad. They are simply bad, thats all, not good enough, not talented enough, not smart enough, how do you want me to put it? Do you want me to write a 1M word analysis on why I think they are bad? Didnt we all see how these bots played last year? Do you have eyes to watch how they are playing INDIVIDUALLY in the OffSeason?
Maybe I should rephrase it so a fanatic like you can understand, they arent bad, they just arent as good as other players. Its not like you would understand why they are bad, from your comments I know you are neither a good player or have high knowledge about the game, you are just a casual so stay at that
idkbro [#22]It is, its vlr I wont explain why I think they are bad. They are simply bad, thats all, not good enough, not talented enough, not smart enough, how do you want me to put it? Do you want me to write a 1M word analysis on why I think they are bad? Didnt we all see how these bots played last year? Do you have eyes to watch how they are playing INDIVIDUALLY in the OffSeason?
Maybe I should rephrase it so a fanatic like you can understand, they arent bad, they just arent as good as other players. Its not like you would understand why they are bad, from your comments I know you are neither a good player or have high knowledge about the game, you are just a casual so stay at that
They're individual talent is literally their strength? Did you see how their teams in general played last year? They've all been top of the world in the past which literally proves the opposite that they do have the talent because they've showed it before? But we're not gonna agree so only time will tell Ig
Mortadelo [#20]Name 5
Mixwell: he surprised me in india, I think he could be good on initiators but will never a top top player anymore, vo0kashu could be a good replacement but mixwell isnt the main problem and doesnt need to replaced immediately
Boo: I dont think he is great but he is the igl so just keep him
Avova: Full bot, has never been good just did his job while being on the best teams. Thats not even the worst part, he is a player who can only anchor and play smokes but his decision making in tier3 level, one of the dumbest players in tier1 valorant. Baddyg is literally F/A
keloqz: talented but I think some1 like minibo0 or jugi could be better
zeek: only real top top player in this team and lets be honest he isnt enough to carry this team
I am not asking to kick all 5 players, I just think there are some very clear instant improvements available like baddyg. You need to remember that teams have improved radically in terms of firepower and there is like 6 superteams in EMEA alone, this team wouldnt even have been good last year. They dont even have a great igl, from what I heard Boo is very bad igl. I can name more players if you want but I just named the ones I think are "no brainers"
Mortadelo [#23]They're individual talent is literally their strength? Did you see how their teams in general played last year? They've all been top of the world in the past which literally proves the opposite that they do have the talent because they've showed it before? But we're not gonna agree so only time will tell Ig
HAHAHAHHA what are you even saying, bro valorant is a 2 years old game, its a common trend in every game that some players are good at the start. Mixwell isnt good enough to be a star at t1 level anymore and avova was never that good, he just was on the best team and did his job. Sorry but if think individual talent is their strenght you know 0 valorant, its their biggest weakness without a doubt. I dont even know why I waste time with you since you have always shown you are a bad player and a casual
idkbro [#25]HAHAHAHHA what are you even saying, bro valorant is a 2 years old game, its a common trend in every game that some players are good at the start. Mixwell isnt good enough to be a star at t1 level anymore and avova was never that good, he just was on the best team and did his job. Sorry but if think individual talent is their strenght you know 0 valorant, its their biggest weakness without a doubt. I dont even know why I waste time with you since you have always shown you are a bad player and a casual
Why do you think this game was close? Because of TH 1 mont old Strats vs 100T 1 year chemistry and work? Or because TH duels and clutches?
Mortadelo [#26]Why do you think this game was close? Because of TH 1 mont old Strats vs 100T 1 year chemistry and work? Or because TH duels and clutches?
- NA best players are shit compared to EU best players
- There are better players than those Heretics have and maybe if they had those they would have beaten these 100T noobs. They are competent just not better than other options and certainly not better than the other top6 eu teams
- You just showed me you got no idea how tac fps works at the highest level, not everything revolves around "strats" or more precisely "set strats". These are decent players with 1 month experience and tournament experience (this is a good amount, take in cosideration how much these teams pracc every day), you dont need "strats" to play good in a mickey mouse tournament. Valorant/CSGO are about defaulting rather than set strats and making adaptations + being able to play on the fly which if you read MIkesHD interview this is something 100T are looking to improve on this year so 100T werent using all their set strats and gimmicks. Please I hope noobs like you stop talking about "strats", you guys seem to think an IGL comes in he has his personal strats or something lmao, also most of heretics have played together at some point so there is some chemistry and they arent complete strangers
idkbro [#27]
- NA best players are shit compared to EU best players
- There are better players than those Heretics have and maybe if they had those they would have beaten these 100T noobs. They are competent just not better than other options and certainly not better than the other top6 eu teams
- You just showed me you got no idea how tac fps works at the highest level, not everything revolves around "strats" or more precisely "set strats". These are decent players with 1 month experience and tournament experience (this is a good amount, take in cosideration how much these teams pracc every day), you dont need "strats" to play good in a mickey mouse tournament. Valorant/CSGO are about defaulting rather than set strats and making adaptations + being able to play on the fly which if you read MIkesHD interview this is something 100T are looking to improve on this year so 100T werent using all their set strats and gimmicks. Please I hope noobs like you stop talking about "strats", you guys seem to think an IGL comes in he has his personal strats or something lmao, also most of heretics have played together at some point so there is some chemistry and they arent complete strangers
Then TH is bad at Strats and bad individually but are performing good because they know how to default? Also you keep saying there are better players, could you make a roster of 5 available players better than TH please?
idkbro [#27]
- NA best players are shit compared to EU best players
- There are better players than those Heretics have and maybe if they had those they would have beaten these 100T noobs. They are competent just not better than other options and certainly not better than the other top6 eu teams
- You just showed me you got no idea how tac fps works at the highest level, not everything revolves around "strats" or more precisely "set strats". These are decent players with 1 month experience and tournament experience (this is a good amount, take in cosideration how much these teams pracc every day), you dont need "strats" to play good in a mickey mouse tournament. Valorant/CSGO are about defaulting rather than set strats and making adaptations + being able to play on the fly which if you read MIkesHD interview this is something 100T are looking to improve on this year so 100T werent using all their set strats and gimmicks. Please I hope noobs like you stop talking about "strats", you guys seem to think an IGL comes in he has his personal strats or something lmao, also most of heretics have played together at some point so there is some chemistry and they arent complete strangers
Example of this is DRX, they have transitioned from a team that only played on very rigid set strats and was very predictable to a team that default like the best teams and be unpredictable and adaptable. Please just learn something about the game before coming with your brain washed opinions by Universo Valorant and all these mixwell boot licker spanish streamers
Mortadelo [#29]Then TH is bad at Strats and bad individually but are performing good because they know how to default? Also you keep saying there are better players, could you make a roster of 5 available players better than TH please?
YOU ARE SO DUMB, there is no such thing as being "bad at strats" I am literally explaining to you thats not how valorant works at pro level. They are performing good because this is a stupid tournament that must not be taken seriously, C9 who was regarded as a contender for best team itw just lost to FOKUS without their best players after they lost to OnlyFins a couple days ago, do you understand how no1 is playing at their full potential? This tournament is just higher stakes scrims
idkbro [#31]YOU ARE SO DUMB, there is no such thing as being "bad at strats" I am literally explaining to you thats not how valorant works at pro level. They are performing good because this is a stupid tournament that must not be taken seriously, C9 who was regarded as a contender for best team itw just lost to FOKUS without their best players after they lost to OnlyFins a couple days ago, do you understand how no1 is playing at their full potential? This tournament is just higher stakes scrims
Okay sure, would you care to name the better 5 available player please?
Mortadelo [#29]Then TH is bad at Strats and bad individually but are performing good because they know how to default? Also you keep saying there are better players, could you make a roster of 5 available players better than TH please?
baddyg (igl), minib00, vo0kashu, zeek, mixwell. This team would be 10 times better than the current one and you can keep the star of the team and mixwell who brings a lot of fans, baddyg is a super smart player that has learned from the best in ange1 and is capable to become a top IGL. On the financial side, an org of the caliber of Heretics can afford all these players and they could buy them for a low price and even sell them on a high price in the future when they become some of the best players in Europe, it just makes way more sense on all fronts. Not to say that although these are young talents, they still would be an instant improvement in performance compared to the current players
idkbro [#33]baddyg (igl), minib00, vo0kashu, zeek, mixwell. This team would be 10 times better than the current one and you can keep the star of the team and mixwell who brings a lot of fans, baddyg is a super smart player that has learned from the best in ange1 and is capable to become a top IGL. On the financial side, an org of the caliber of Heretics can afford all these players and they could buy them for a low price and even sell them on a high price in the future when they become some of the best players in Europe, it just makes way more sense on all fronts. Not to say that although these are young talents, they still would be an instant improvement in performance compared to the current players
Ok so I just wrote a whole as paragraph and lost it to a miss click give me a sec xD
idkbro [#33]baddyg (igl), minib00, vo0kashu, zeek, mixwell. This team would be 10 times better than the current one and you can keep the star of the team and mixwell who brings a lot of fans, baddyg is a super smart player that has learned from the best in ange1 and is capable to become a top IGL. On the financial side, an org of the caliber of Heretics can afford all these players and they could buy them for a low price and even sell them on a high price in the future when they become some of the best players in Europe, it just makes way more sense on all fronts. Not to say that although these are young talents, they still would be an instant improvement in performance compared to the current players
Let's go by parts.
BaddyG it's a great player and and I wouldn't call you crazy if you told be he is slightly better than Boo but if TH has decided to go for Boo is because they've seen something and tbh he is owning rn and helped molsi carry his team really far. Also baddyg has been coIGL for like a split, that's not very reliable IGL. Overall you would agree with me if it is an upgrade it's just slightly?
Vokashu did have many offers but his buyout was huge and again, you will agree with me it's a risky take you don't know how he will perform, meanwhile AvovA has experience and chemistry with the players. Also vokashu it's known for having some toxic polemics
About MiniBoo he has a similar peak than keloqz but I totally agree he is way more consistent and I like him a lot plus the brother buff could have been real but tbh keloqz has the talent to be top in the world
So in conclusion all of them could or could not be upgrades, but I don't get why all that hate. Are they really much worse than KC or vitality for example?
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