OQ academy vs. SCARZ | ESL Clash of Nations: KR/JP | Showdown | Valorant match

	Pistol Won	Eco (won)	$ (won)	$$ (won)	$$$ (won)
OQA	1	3 (1)	1 (0)	4 (2)	14 (10)
SZ	1	3 (2)	3 (0)	3 (2)	13 (5)

Pistol Won

Eco (won)

$ (won)

$$ (won)

$$$ (won)

OQA

3 (1)

1 (0)

4 (2)

14 (10)

3 (2)

3 (0)

3 (2)

13 (5)

	Pistol Won	Eco (won)	$ (won)	$$ (won)	$$$ (won)
OQA	0	3 (0)	1 (0)	5 (1)	12 (7)
SZ	2	2 (2)	0 (0)	5 (3)	14 (8)

Pistol Won

Eco (won)

$ (won)

$$ (won)

$$$ (won)

OQA

3 (0)

1 (0)

5 (1)

12 (7)

2 (2)

0 (0)

5 (3)

14 (8)

	Pistol Won	Eco (won)	$ (won)	$$ (won)	$$$ (won)
OQA	1	3 (1)	3 (0)	4 (2)	13 (10)
SZ	1	2 (1)	0 (0)	8 (2)	13 (7)

Pistol Won

Eco (won)

$ (won)

$$ (won)

$$$ (won)

OQA

3 (1)

3 (0)

4 (2)

13 (10)

2 (1)

0 (0)

8 (2)

13 (7)

	Pistol Won	Eco (won)	$ (won)	$$ (won)	$$$ (won)
OQA	2	9 (2)	5 (0)	13 (5)	39 (27)
SZ	4	7 (5)	3 (0)	16 (7)	40 (20)

Pistol Won

Eco (won)

$ (won)

$$ (won)

$$$ (won)

OQA

9 (2)

5 (0)

13 (5)

39 (27)

7 (5)

3 (0)

16 (7)

40 (20)

#32

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They beat more than just EDG lol.

never did anything in officials

PRX and ZETA never did anything in officials until M1 2022, what's your point lol? Just because they did not have results does not mean they won't have results in future. ESL isn't even a high-stakes tournament.

ur tryna say OQA can punch in the weight of teams like DRX and are a force to reckon with

:eyes: Clueless he lacks the critical information kekw, maybe not for OQA, but I never said OQA is as good as DRX. I just said they're a good team.

that they did win I am 100000% not gonna make statements like SZ > CR until the two teams go at it in a bo3

CR lost Rion, Astell, and Munchkin lol. Their best players are Meiy and Popogachi. Meiy is the only really good player. Makiba is hot trash.

#33

Flyjin

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:eyes: Clueless he lacks the critical information kekw, maybe not for OQA, but I never said OQA is as good as DRX. I just said they're a good team.

You are performing extreme mental gymnastics with your logic because you are trying to mix scrim results with what just transpired before your eyes.

We just saw SZ lose to OQA. No, SZ didn't play good Valorant. No OQA isn't a good team. No, Scarz isn't better than OQA. You call Makiba trash but are you forgetting the very roster we are comparing it to?

Only time can settle this debate because our perceptions of these two teams are wildly different. I think Scarz are hot trash and you think they're the best ascension team in Japan.

PRX and ZETA never did anything in officials until M1 2022, what's your point lol? Just because they did not have results does not mean they won't have results in future. ESL isn't even a high-stakes tournament.

PRX and ZETA won their respective region, the fact that I have to point this out is worrying.

#34

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How is it mental gymnastics to say OQA are a good team?

I think we'll have to see. It's a win for me either way. If Scarz are a bad team that's fine, likely the best JP ascension team will be mixed with Koreans. If Scarz are a good team, then I'd be right.

Idk about you but I believe in my vision of the game and although I haven't watched much or played it in a while I think it's still good enough to indicate whether a team is good or not.
Scarz have yet to play vs CR, and you only see results. I think Scarz can beat CR

Anyone Immortal+ can see Scarz has hints of good teamplay and coordination, and OQA has good reads and play their comp well.

#35

Flyjin

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Idk about you but I believe in my vision of the game and although I haven't watched much or played it in a while I think it's still good enough to indicate whether a team is good or not.

Okay. So you think OQA played better Valorant than OQ? You think OQ or OQA can hold a candle with DK, NTH, FL, FAV, IGZIST?

Rhetorical question, I just wanted to make you realize the absurdity saying losing to OQA was good Valorant.

The CR vs OQA game wasn't even broadcasted, I've watched every CR game since Munchkin's departure and they look disciplined. From what point in time are you saying CR looked like trash?

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Now THAT is pure cap.

The CR vs OQA game wasn't even broadcasted, I've watched every CR game since Munchkin's departure and they look disciplined.

https://youtu.be/KQgO4o9zFFM

#38

Flyjin

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damn I didnt even see that stream, my fault

Im not gonna watch the vod because I dont have time, but you think CR played like shit here?

#39

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lmfao what do you think buddy

convo ends here, our opinions too different