Clown 9 will get grouped in redbull tournament near airport fastest , gr8 expectations from 100t thou and TL is winning it all , i wanna see TL destroying C9 in bo5 but sadly we will have to wait till kickoff tournament
I agree C9 won't do as good as people are expecting them to, the main reason being that they've not had much time together
By the month of Feb when franchise starts I think C9 will be the best team in NA. I feel like the Leaf-Zellsis-Vanity trio is just too powerful, and then you have Yay on top of it
dexter000111 [#2]I agree C9 won't do as good as people are expecting them to, the main reason being that they've not had much time together
By the month of Feb when franchise starts I think C9 will be the best team in NA. I feel like the Leaf-Zellsis-Vanity trio is just too powerful, and then you have Yay on top of it
honestly sentinel roster is looking much better than C9
Ryuji [#3]honestly sentinel roster is looking much better than C9
in 2nd split yeah. i think sen will go through some troubles (sacy and pancada adaptation in LA, english comms having two brazilian players etc) in 1st split
Ryuji [#3]honestly sentinel roster is looking much better than C9
Objectively speaking I don't see how that is
Leaf > Zekken
Yay >> Tenz
Xeppaa < Sacy
Zellsis > dephh
Vanity << pancada
and Vanity IGLing > dephh IGLing (IMO)
they look pretty well matched, but C9 has better ceiling for team synergy whereas SEN could run into issues due to cultural differences
Ryuji [#3]honestly sentinel roster is looking much better than C9
I can foresee SEN looking a lot like Vitality's counterstrike roster. So much talent but not always on the same page. The Brazilians on one side of the map and the NA players on the other type stuff. If Sacy and Pancada are the last 2 alive they will likely comm in Portugese (I would if I was them as well). Also, while I really like Dephh as a player and IGL... the last time I saw TeNz with a top tier IGL he flopped hard (Daps on C9)
iSchyguy [#9]I can foresee SEN looking a lot like Vitality's counterstrike roster. So much talent but not always on the same page. The Brazilians on one side of the map and the NA players on the other type stuff. If Sacy and Pancada are the last 2 alive they will likely comm in Portugese (I would if I was them as well). Also, while I really like Dephh as a player and IGL... the last time I saw TeNz with a top tier IGL he flopped hard (Daps on C9)
that c9 daps roster flopped as a whole, as for tenz it's only a matter if he's comfortable so that he can be the hard carry for sen
dexter000111 [#6]Objectively speaking I don't see how that is
Leaf > Zekken
Yay >> Tenz
Xeppaa < Sacy
Zellsis > dephh
Vanity << pancadaand Vanity IGLing > dephh IGLing (IMO)
they look pretty well matched, but C9 has better ceiling for team synergy whereas SEN could run into issues due to cultural differences
No way u said leaf > zekken
Pengu12 [#14]U can
shhh
u actually lose your stars at 1000 posts, so u should leave the site as soon as u get to 999 :D
Qwertyy [#16]shhh
u actually lose your stars at 1000 posts, so u should leave the site as soon as u get to 999 :D
Common Qwertyy W
He would never lie right?
Pengu12 [#20]I will make sure to leave this brain dead site and touch some grass
thats good for the site
but bad for the grass
dexter000111 [#6]Objectively speaking I don't see how that is
Leaf > Zekken
Yay >> Tenz
Xeppaa < Sacy
Zellsis > dephh
Vanity << pancadaand Vanity IGLing > dephh IGLing (IMO)
they look pretty well matched, but C9 has better ceiling for team synergy whereas SEN could run into issues due to cultural differences
Zekken>>leaf
Tenz<<yay
Sacy>>xeppa
Pancada>>vanity
Dephh>=Zellsis
Dephh as igl>vanity as igl
There fixed it for u
Pengu12 [#12]No way u said leaf > zekken
It's true and we will have conclusive proof pretty soon
Until then i respect your opinion
helohelo [#11]that c9 daps roster flopped as a whole, as for tenz it's only a matter if he's comfortable so that he can be the hard carry for sen
Fair enough. I just haven't seen Tenz embrace a really structed team yet imo. There are definitely questions to be asked of him with his flexibility. Even he admitted at one point his Raze play was average/poor at best. With the chamber nerfs and the potential of Jett not being meta on some maps currently in the pool (Split and Pearl imo) how will he play? I'm sure he will still be a great player. My question is will he be able to conform to the system that Syko, Kaplan, and Dephh create? Because if he doesn't, I don't see SEN being a top team in the Americas league.
dexter000111 [#24]It's true and we will have conclusive proof pretty soon
Until then i respect your opinion
Good idea
GreyDaze [#23]Zekken>>leaf
Tenz<<yay
Sacy>>xeppa
Pancada>>vanity
Dephh>=Zellsis
Dephh as igl>vanity as iglThere fixed it for u
W
Qwertyy [#16]shhh
u actually lose your stars at 1000 posts, so u should leave the site as soon as u get to 999 :D
lies. source: me. you only lose your stars after 1000 posts if you are too based. (see: babysasuke)
unknown_trash [#29]lies. source: me. you only lose your stars after 1000 posts if you are too based. (see: babysasuke)
0/8 i was kidding
Qwertyy [#30]0/8 i was kidding
bruh i was trolling too man ;-;. you only lose your stars if your takes suck (or your baits are too good and you manage to piss the mods off enough)
dexter000111 [#6]Objectively speaking I don't see how that is
Leaf > Zekken
Yay >> Tenz
Xeppaa < Sacy
Zellsis > dephh
Vanity << pancadaand Vanity IGLing > dephh IGLing (IMO)
they look pretty well matched, but C9 has better ceiling for team synergy whereas SEN could run into issues due to cultural differences
Just curious, how can you say Vanity IGLing > dephh IGLing when Vanity hasn't achieved anything this year? His best achivement was making it to playoffs in Champions 2021. Like he is one of the better IGLs in NA but I think people are overrating him little right now. dephh has way more proven success from this year.
unknown_trash [#31]bruh i was trolling too man ;-;. you only lose your stars if your takes suck (or your baits are too good and you manage to piss the mods off enough)
mine is the second one
patuj [#32]Just curious, how can you say Vanity IGLing > dephh IGLing when Vanity hasn't achieved anything this year? His best achivement was making it to playoffs in Champions 2021. Like he is one of the better IGLs in NA but I think people are overrating him little right now. dephh has way more proven success from this year.
I rate Vanity higher bcoz of the playstyle he brings. Idk how to describe it but the best way I can put it is "fast and loose" which is less pre-decided and more on-the-go. Dephh is more of a reactive IGL and most of the aggression XSET had was just zekken and cryo being themselves. Whereas Vanity has more active plays and space taking and mid-round adaptations.
I do agree with you there's not much proof to back up this claim in terms of results, so again all I can say is we will have conclusive proof soon enough and until then I respect your opinion
Pengu12 [#12]No way u said leaf > zekken
Leaf literally got called hacker by Brazilians and got death threats cuz of what he did to prime Mibr
4evrDuke [#35]Leaf literally got called hacker by Brazilians and got death threats cuz of what he did to prime Mibr
Doesn't matter. Currently zekken is way better
iSchyguy [#25]Fair enough. I just haven't seen Tenz embrace a really structed team yet imo. There are definitely questions to be asked of him with his flexibility. Even he admitted at one point his Raze play was average/poor at best. With the chamber nerfs and the potential of Jett not being meta on some maps currently in the pool (Split and Pearl imo) how will he play? I'm sure he will still be a great player. My question is will he be able to conform to the system that Syko, Kaplan, and Dephh create? Because if he doesn't, I don't see SEN being a top team in the Americas league.
Time will tell