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luckypleb

is it DNA?

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thiagomds

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huge population, good computers/structure and more player base(statistically will have more good players).

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kkona12345

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eu has the lowest population out of all continents lol even SEA has almost the same

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lorenzopajaroFC

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I think he means the amount of people that actually play the game

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Valgod

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this is irrelevant, not a single pro came from valorant ranked yet. All of the eu pros are former cs players

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I mean Trent and maybe even alfajer?

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cned,Trent,alfajer?

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Valgod

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Cned was playing a turkish csgo ripoff before, Trent is from na and not even tier 1, alfajer maybe

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kkona12345

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cned played cs too

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Gamer1234

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The point still stands as CSGO is far larger in Europe than in other continents as well

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*population in PC gaming

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thiagomds

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yes, thanks

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more access to computers, supportive parents

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???? Europe 750 million North America 600 million South America 400 million ?????

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kkona12345

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what,americas is 1 continent??

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lorenzopajaroFC

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And still had two finalists in masters 1 and And champions, meanwhile y’all couldn’t get a single team on the top 3 at champs

Pathetic.

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idkbro

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yes, can confirm

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you called me the N word on this site in April

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idkbro

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I leave vlr for a couple months and as soon as I post, you are here to reply this like always, do you spend your whole day in vlr?

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babysasuke

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maybe 😳

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No he spends his whole day in nutable

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-_-

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i can confirm

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In Asian countries (except Korea) most of us cannot afford quality pcs like Europeans and there is so less game population
I think this is the only reason

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idkbro

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main reason is fps experience, europeans have 20 years of experience in csgo which means they have the best idea of how to play the game fundamentally

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lorenzopajaroFC

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You kinda have a point here, if being able to afford stuff mattered so much Germans wouldn’t suck this bad at the game

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Valgod

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Uk is the worst region in valorant and they can afford pcs

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lorenzopajaroFC

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Doesn’t count, that place is full of Brits so you can’t really compare them to normal people

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alitmanus

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in brazil and russia we can't as well
emerging countries

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idkbro

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russia isnt that poor and brazil is rich and big enough to have a lot of quality players

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alitmanus

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reality: both emerging countries like india
being Russia and Brazil so poor that got famous by piracy

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idkbro

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reality: brazil is considerably richer than india and russia is on a similar level to other european countries and expected to reach very high levels in the near future so reality is these countries are nothing like india in terms of development, specially russia

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alitmanus

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reality: poverty is increasing in Brazil and the rest of latin america

Russia average wage is 250 euros, while it's 1500 euros in germany

but yeah... "similar level"

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idkbro

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Germany is not average european country, they are one of the richest and are the richest by far among the big european powers. Compare Russia gdp per capita/HDI to other european countries and india/brazil and you will see the difference, you dont need a norwegian salary to be able to afford a pc either lmao, also you dont seem to be taking into account that prices of products are different depending on the purchasing power of said country, also remember Russia is a FEDERATION that goes from Europe to bordering with Alaska so there are some remote regions that lower the average salary, western Russia which is where 99% of top russian players are from have a good quality of life comparable to the average european country, not the same to be from moscow (most populated european city btw) or chechnya

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kkona12345

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the average Brazilian isnt much richer than any asian lol

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idkbro

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but they are richer, arent they? specially the ones from the big cities full of white people

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alitmanus

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I live in one of those cities (it's called curitiba)
the average wage here is the same as the rest of the country (240 euros, like in Russia)

"full of white people"
weirdo

continue thread →

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kkona12345

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no? u are talking about asia overall comparing it to singular countries and some cities in it lmao,not to mention the fact a lot of those poor Asian countries have pc bang culture instead of gaming at home,the same is also in some poor balkan countries

continue thread →

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alitmanus

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lol you're so delusional

the only things that are cheaper are some commodities, technology have the same price (some are even more expensive bcuz they're imported)
Russia is as poor as Brazil, Brazil just don't hide its poverty like Russia does.
showing only the "bright side"

https://youtu.be/LRuRJfKaJlY?t=259

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idkbro

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

You are the delusional one here, take a look at the data, western Russia is on a similar level to for example baltic countries who are known to have some of the best pro players per population ratio in fps games

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its only 1500 in germany? wtf

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its like 4k euros lol

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idkbro

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he is so stupid he probably took wrong data, no way its only 1500 in Germany, thats the average of my country and we are way below them

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thiagomds

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I don't know in what world you live.

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idkbro

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why? even if its not the case for you brazil is big and although not rich it is still richer and more developed than most countries so chances are that a 210M country can produce top players specially if the interest in fps games is that big and russia is fairly rich, you can check the data

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eu is richer and has more pc gamers = better talent

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kkona12345

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difference between cis average salary and asian countries isnt big and cis breeds so much talent in every esport,even a team from Kazakhstan in cs has won a major and a lot of them have to play with like 100 ping in faceit

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idkbro

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it actually is, very few asian countries are on a similar level of development to khazakhstan and they werent full khazak, it was just a CIS mix

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kkona12345

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it was 3 kazakh and 2 russians it was a kazakh team,both of them on average do not have money to buy good gaming pcs or anything else nice

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idkbro

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not true, they probably dont have as many pcs per capita as sweden for example but they are still richer than 80% percent of the world and many people can afford pcs, I also have met a lot of LATAM people through gaming in my life and even a good number of them can afford to have decent pcs and khazaks are richer than most of LATAM so they have a good chance of having good players too, if latam which is basically banana republics can afford some pcs then every1 decently wealthy country can

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idkbro

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not to mention that major was the biggest fluke of all time, wtf was that final? that gambit wasnt even good, they were just lucky not good

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thiagomds

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avarage salary doesn't mean shit if you don't have distribution

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kkona12345

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and you know they don't have distribution because? Many poorer Asian countries also have a lot pc bangs for that reason

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thiagomds

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it's politics, almost every underdeveloped country doesn't have industrialization, investment in high tech and rely on commodities. Because of that they have to import eletronics and sell way more expansive(and this afect the game scenario).

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alitmanus

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the right term is "emerging"

brazil isn't underdeveloped
brazil is the third biggest airplanes manufacturer in the world
even some developed countries can't build airplanes, let alone the underdeveloped ones

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Zapkhiel

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Because europe is richer and has better infrastructure

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agreed the trollies in EU go hard

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luckypleb

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wtf is a trollie

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Valgod

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Explain uk then

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i think it has to do with bigger high level cs go background.