Concerns for every NA team going into franchising

sidenote i'm doing this with the rosters we know now so I'm not doing EG

100t: I think Cryo makes the team insane with him awping, asuna on the kayo entry role and bang playing smokes. My main concerns are Derrek on fade and stellar playing that flex initiator role now that Will is no longer on the team. With cryo likely playing 100% chamber and jett, stellar will be asked to play less sentinel characters and more things in the Dephh agent pool, kayo breach maybe even fade. I'm not sure how well he will do on those. Derrek is already a great sova but I'm not convinced by his fade yet and apart from those two I'm not confident about his breach or really any other agent.

c9: Yay and Vanity are obviously fantastic players and have very solidified roles, but the other 3 perplex me a bit. I'm not sure how the other three's roles are going to work. They're all good not great raze's, play plenty of initiators, but I'm not sure how the sova and breach will be. Xeppaa is sick at kayo skye and fade, zellsis is great at kayo and kj, leaf on skye and viper but who plays breach and who plays sova. My guess is its zellsis breach xeppaa sova but those 3 players roles could be a problem.

SEN: Language barrier is obvious but IMO Tenz is gonna make or break this team. We know that pancada sacy and zekken play their roles at a top 5 in the region level, and dephh is a good igl who knows how to play a lot of roles. Tenz, though, is still a ? on chamber. His jett is top tier, and he can play a lot of duelists at an average level, but he really only had 1 tourney on chamber and looked good not great. If he plays chamber at an ardiis yay cryo level this team will be insane

NRG: s0m's smokes are the obvious question mark IMO. I'm confident his omen will be fine, but what happens when they need viper and brim play? Smokes players need to be able to play all 4 agents nowadays, and I'm not sure how first time brim and viper for him will go. In theory he'll be fine but when the competition is pancada and bang its tough to think s0m can keep up. IMO they'll let him flex a little, so he'll maybe play kay/o or jett on breeze or sage on IB, but that still means he's playing a lot of omen brim astra. Either way he's playing with 4 world class players so he'll prob be fine.

EG obviously will be behind these teams but on the plus side Jawgemo is world class IMO and boostio and him as a fragging duo is sick, though ethan c0m and supamen as the final three doesn't strike much confidence for me.

I know less abt the br/latam teams but as of rn

LEV/Loud are both world class teams with ? at the controller position while the other 4 are insane players

Kru's team is def weaker than most, and for me its up to how well their fragging trio of xand nagz and daveeys can perform. If daveeys is a steal and becomes one of the best fraggers in the Americas this team can do well with lots of structured calling, but if its the same fragging from 2021 with nagz and daveeys isn't ready, this team will be bad.

Furia looks awesome but Mazin is the biggest igl ? of any team. IMO Mwzera is an upgrade on nzw, but mazin is the only guy in Americas with no igling experience who will igl in 23. Apart from that the team has some great players but Mazin might just not be a good igl and they flop

Mibr is the similar to EG for me, don't really know the players and the current ones really aren't all that. From the rumors i like rglm and heat but players like jzz and frz are probably not up to par with the c9 or loud players.

LMK what you guys think, especially for the br ones that i know less abt.

Nrg can just keep s0m on chamber and put ardiis on smokes
His aim should be able to keep him positive

SEN: none

moatz [#2]

Nrg can just keep s0m on chamber and put ardiis on smokes
His aim should be able to keep him positive

Don't see why they'd do that when ardiis is a better awper and s0m has played omen and astra before

GooberBoy [#4]

Don't see why they'd do that when ardiis is a better awper and s0m has played omen and astra before

I think ardiis has slightly better aim than s0m so he will prolly still go positive on smokes
s0m might not be able to go positive on omen/astra
If they swap roles, both of them will go positive and they will both be happy

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s0m is no question to me. his aim s insane and under the best igl itw and a great coach, i think he has what it takes to be a top 3 controller in americas
I think Syyko's intention is to motivate TenZ enough to return to his 2021 form, and i believe he will do exactly that.
c9 roles are kinda weird idk what they will do with zellsis, xeppaa and leaf roles
100t seems fine to me but honestly i would love to have zander instead of stellar but that probably won't happen. i think derrek's roles are fine and asuna is great flex

only read the first 2 and this is so brain damaging do you think about what ur saying b4 u type it

MIDMIDMID [#8]

only read the first 2 and this is so brain damaging do you think about what ur saying b4 u type it

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MIDMIDMID [#8]

only read the first 2 and this is so brain damaging do you think about what ur saying b4 u type it

y is it brain damaging, not saying ur wrong but just saying it's brain damaging with 0 explanation why is just as brain dead imo, just explain :p

People overstate how hard some characters are, especially initiators. Derrek is super talented and will have a super dedicated coaching staff around him. Learning how to play Fade, Breach, etc at a high level is not rocket science lol

Chromantix [#10]

y is it brain damaging, not saying ur wrong but just saying it's brain damaging with 0 explanation why is just as brain dead imo, just explain :p

Cryo on 100t is going to do what will did, so no one is going to have to switch roles Asuna on flex, Derrek main initiator, Stellar sentinels/flex, and bang smokes, they both play the exact same roles so on paper 100t Should be better. The c9 thing is why have leaf on skye when u can have him on duelist while yay plays main oper? both zellsis and xeppa are incredibly flexible. I can go on about the other teams in the NA franchising besides Eg but its going 2 be tiring

Luck_ [#9]

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wdym flag checks out if u read what he wrote you'll understand why i said that

Only concern for 100t is losing seangarres

I agree with the Sen part, but i would say that dephh can be a problem too

VinsmokeLaw [#11]

People overstate how hard some characters are, especially initiators. Derrek is super talented and will have a super dedicated coaching staff around him. Learning how to play Fade, Breach, etc at a high level is not rocket science lol

He knows how to play the agent he just underperformed at lan

One other question mark about Sen is that dephh worked the best in XSet with Ayrin helping call quite a bit

In sentinels he has 2 quiet players that focus on their crosshair and 2 players speaking in a non native language. He will have quite a bit more pressure on him so there’s a chance his calling weakens and his individual level falls down quite a bit

MIDMIDMID [#16]

He knows how to play the agent he just underperformed at lan

True; he underperformed fresh off of backpacking them with Asuna through LCQ

MIDMIDMID [#12]

Cryo on 100t is going to do what will did, so no one is going to have to switch roles Asuna on flex, Derrek main initiator, Stellar sentinels/flex, and bang smokes, they both play the exact same roles so on paper 100t Should be better. The c9 thing is why have leaf on skye when u can have him on duelist while yay plays main oper? both zellsis and xeppa are incredibly flexible. I can go on about the other teams in the NA franchising besides Eg but its going 2 be tiring

yu have a point op exaggeratted and people are buthhurt

aint nobody reading all that 💀

0/8 or good thread im not reading that

moatz [#5]

I think ardiis has slightly better aim than s0m so he will prolly still go positive on smokes
s0m might not be able to go positive on omen/astra
If they swap roles, both of them will go positive and they will both be happy

This is braindead

thatboySchooled [#22]

This is braindead

That's what I'm saying too
Idk y s0m is on controller

MIDMIDMID [#13]

wdym flag checks out if u read what he wrote you'll understand why i said that

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shut up

moatz [#5]

I think ardiis has slightly better aim than s0m so he will prolly still go positive on smokes
s0m might not be able to go positive on omen/astra
If they swap roles, both of them will go positive and they will both be happy

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Danny [#17]

One other question mark about Sen is that dephh worked the best in XSet with Ayrin helping call quite a bit

In sentinels he has 2 quiet players that focus on their crosshair and 2 players speaking in a non native language. He will have quite a bit more pressure on him so there’s a chance his calling weakens and his individual level falls down quite a bit

Sacy is extremely fluent in English and pancada told that he knows enough English for comms but lacks confidence but is positive he can become confident by March easily. So depph has a much better caller with the likes of sacy. So I don't think strats are going to be a problem at all for sen for sure

Danny [#17]

One other question mark about Sen is that dephh worked the best in XSet with Ayrin helping call quite a bit

In sentinels he has 2 quiet players that focus on their crosshair and 2 players speaking in a non native language. He will have quite a bit more pressure on him so there’s a chance his calling weakens and his individual level falls down quite a bit

im almost 100% sure Sacy used to IGL for LOUD earlier this year and I really dont doubt his english so im not sure calls will be an issue. I think SEN's issues center more around if Dephh can keep up as things keep going and whether TenZ even really begins to kick up dust again.

I also question what their plans are in a world where Chamber is hopefully gutted, I assume SicK is there to sub in for maps like Bind where you want no Chamber and Zekken on Neon