So right now Kyedae is getting boosted by Tenz, she’ll prob hit immortal soon, I’m a1 right now, and I get why people complain about Smurfs. But only if you’re plat and below cuz you’ll prob get stomped. But if you’re anything above that, just take it as a learning curve and move on, stop bitching about it please. Mentality is way more important then complaining about it and being absolutely tilted the next game and venting it all out.
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SnooTangerines [#2]I missed the point, what are you trying to say?
basically “you should only complain about smurfs if youre plat or under, otherwise take it as a learning experience and dont complain about it.”
SnooTangerines [#2]I missed the point, what are you trying to say?
saw a post the other day talking about how Kyedae is getting boosted by Tenz and people crying about it, and then I had a game earlier that had someone pissed off cuz of a ‘Smurf’ and then tilting the team in OT. Smurfs ruin fun yes, but bitching about things is even worse
number1_ScreaM_fan [#3]i always assume that theyre having a good game and not a smurf. this helps mentality
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Itchy [#7]saw a post the other day talking about how Kyedae is getting boosted by Tenz and people crying about it, and then I had a game earlier that had someone pissed off cuz of a ‘Smurf’ and then tilting the team in OT. Smurfs ruin fun yes, but bitching about things is even worse
nah, if youre getting shit on by a smurf, you might as well get mad, no point in playing if youre not gonna have fun anyways
maxi447 [#4]nah this is an l take, youre saying ascendants wont get stomped by a top 10 radiant pro player and for them to just get good? yeah nah
I mean in ascendant it’s always doable, they’re not robots
Itchy [#7]saw a post the other day talking about how Kyedae is getting boosted by Tenz and people crying about it, and then I had a game earlier that had someone pissed off cuz of a ‘Smurf’ and then tilting the team in OT. Smurfs ruin fun yes, but bitching about things is even worse
tbh it only sucks in really low elo because it happens verrry often from personal experience. its really unfair at that point. i thought riot gave bans for smurfing but i guess fame changes all that.
Itchy [#7]saw a post the other day talking about how Kyedae is getting boosted by Tenz and people crying about it, and then I had a game earlier that had someone pissed off cuz of a ‘Smurf’ and then tilting the team in OT. Smurfs ruin fun yes, but bitching about things is even worse
TenZ is not your normal smurf. He can easily rekt even high immortals.
The difference between Radiant 500 and a top 20-30 Radiant is in fact huuuuge. You do realize that you need 700-800RR minimum for that?
Each 100 RR counts as 1 extra rank.
So TenZ is like 7-8 ranks higher than even a Radiat 500-immortals realistically speaking. This is the difference between bronze and high gold-plats.
Edit: If you think if you are even close to these guys even as an immortal, you cannot be further from the truth.
Itchy [#11]I mean in ascendant it’s always doable, they’re not robots
yeah sure, its like theyre so close to being top 10 in the world
SnooTangerines [#14]TenZ is not your normal smurf. He can easily rekt even high immortals.
The difference between Radiant 500 and a top 20-30 Radiant is in fact huuuuge. You do realize that you need 700-800RR minimum for that?
Each 100 RR counts as 1 extra rank.
So TenZ is like 7-8 ranks higher than even a Radiat 500-immortals realistically speaking. This is the difference between bronze and high gold-plats.
Edit: If you think if you are even close to these guys even as an immortal, you cannot be further from the truth.
My point was just to take it as a learning curve, if you lose you lose, whatever. The point stands if you wanna get better, you have to focus on yourself and not drag others down with you.
Itchy [#11]I mean in ascendant it’s always doable, they’re not robots
You are delusional. Ascendant is just a place for low immortals in the earlier versions.
The entire reason for creating ascendant was to separate these low immortals and actual high immortal players.
And then there is a huge skill gap between high immortals and top 30 Radiants.
Itchy [#16]My point was just to take it as a learning curve, if you lose you lose, whatever. The point stands if you wanna get better, you have to focus on yourself and not drag others down with you.
You only learn when you are doing something slightly above your skill level.
As an ascendant facing TenZ you will always get rekt no matter what you do. The skill gap is just too huge to learn anything.
I once watched a clip of TenZ smurfing with Kyedae and her sister in a silver lobby in unrated.
The opposing team was getting rekt, yet they were trying. There was a breach on the other team. He ulted TenZ, he got stunned. A couple of ppl peeked him, they both got headshotted. Or he flashed TenZ 100% and still got headshotted when he pushed.
You could argue that peeking when you are 100% that the other guy is stunned is the play 99.9% of the time. This will probably get you all the way through ascendant. But not against TenZ it seems. There is nothing to learn here. The breach played that perfectly. The skill gap is just too huge to learn anything. He just wasted 30 mins of his time.
yup 100% agree when i was below plat, i was always mad about someone smurfing that i ruin the game, but when i finally hit immo, and constantly in asc/immo, i have a different mindset about smurfer, i always thought either they had a good game, or he's just smurfer, but i should improve because of that, cause smurfer is inevitable, u always get it in other games too, so no need to be really pissed about it. just get better
Itchy [#11]I mean in ascendant it’s always doable, they’re not robots
I mean I've seen immo players plays like a robot, let alone ascendant facing off against a pro player
SigmaMale [#21]What would you learn after getting insta domed everytime you peek? Sit in spawn?
FPX moment
SigmaMale [#21]What would you learn after getting insta domed everytime you peek? Sit in spawn?
learn how to counter the play? use ability or play in different position, cause most of the lower ranks always plays at the same place everytime, easily predictable sometimes
equinoxyy [#26]learn how to counter the play? use ability or play in different position, cause most of the lower ranks always plays at the same place everytime, easily predictable sometimes
Read #19
I wouldn't consider above plat to be smurf IMO, if they reached like diamond or ascendant on an alt that means he already spend enough time that it might as well be considered his main
and also I don't think it's worth it to even "smurf" on asc+++ because at that point your aim is already good enough to outaim immortal players
but of course if the smurf is tenz I'm gonna fkin mad about it lmao
SaltyMcNulty [#23]The thing is Kyedae isn't terrible that she can't hold her own in these lobbies. She is learning and isn't ruining other people's experience so it's fine imo. I have learned more fundamentals from him this stream than you could actually learn from tenz's own stream lmao.
TBH if you are anywhere around plat and I gave you a high ascendant/low immortal account it would take a long time for you to derank cause you will almost get carried by your teammates and you just pick sage and plant the bomb/throw slow orbs at the site you are holding. While on some games you pop off.
In fact you would actually get better because you expect new plays now.
SnooTangerines [#30]TBH if you are anywhere around plat and I gave you a high ascendant/low immortal account it would take a long time for you to derank cause you will almost get carried by your teammates and you just pick sage and plant the bomb/throw slow orbs at the site you are holding. While on some games you pop off.
In fact you would actually get better because you expect new plays now.
true that's why I said she isn't terrible. I have seen ascendent players in immortal lobby getting carried and they can't even hold their guns and would int constantly even if you ask them nicely to just sit in a corner with a shotgun or something. They are not learning or having fun( cz how could going 3-16 be fun?), they are just trying to rank up the cheap way.
SnooTangerines [#27]Read #19
nah, it's not always happen, than he knows, it's the right play from breach pov, when u peeking him when he's stunned or blind, that should be the right play, and also if you catch him alone, no need to worry, the aim is to improve for next game, not that game, u always know u gonna lose the game, just pick something from the game
aylez [#13]tbh it only sucks in really low elo because it happens verrry often from personal experience. its really unfair at that point. i thought riot gave bans for smurfing but i guess fame changes all that.
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her_sage_420 [#37]ranking systems made fps players soft. back then when u get shit on, you just accept that the other player is better. now when ppl get shit on, their first instinct is to complain about smurfing instead of realizing that they suck and using that to improve.
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equinoxyy [#26]learn how to counter the play? use ability or play in different position, cause most of the lower ranks always plays at the same place everytime, easily predictable sometimes
ya i do they same
but we still lose every single alternative tactic we try
Zephyros [#41]bro y cant she just win by herself and rank up
y u be needing boosting done and still stream it
meanwhile im hardstuck diamond for so long and ik my aim better than her :(
yeah but you don't have kawaii uwu japanese girlfriend aren't you?
maxi447 [#10]nah, if youre getting shit on by a smurf, you might as well get mad, no point in playing if youre not gonna have fun anyways
U have more fun if u cry about it?
If ur diamond + there is solid chance winning if u focus
The problem isn't about smurfs in diamond+ but the fact that people are boosted upto that rank. I'm ascendant 1 and I'm losing because of actual boosted bots in my team who can't even get 5+ frags, have no game sense and are straight up dumb. Meanwhile people like kyedae are getting boosted in even higher ranks by tenz and she streams it. Problem comes when she either solos and gets rekt because she does not belong in the rank she's in.
Zephyros [#40]ya i do they same
but we still lose every single alternative tactic we try
that's what even the best teams do, if you lose learn from it, learn what the enemy did to u, and try it on your next game, if the exact situation appear.
TBN_Prathades [#28]kyedae play well from some vod of her I assume that she is Immo 1 since my friend who is worse than her can reach immo1. (sorry Rey)
Rey catching strays 💀
if you are in low elo then it sucks they can get fucked but in this case where TenZ is playing with Kyedae, it is barely boosting, they are similar ranks. you would learn a lot from playing ranked with one of the best players in the world, why not? its not ruining anything at all for her rank, just like he said, its a learning curve. if you want to be better then you need to learn from better opponents yes?
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