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Mortadelo [#4]So let me get this straight? Bonecold, cender, Molsi, alive and someone else? Kinda mid ngl, plus I guess they are putting Alive on the op and cender on sentinel? Or Molsi back to Initiator? Dang that’s not why I expected at all
Molsi probably playing raze at some maps and yeah basically initiator
SilentNight [#8]LETS FUCKING GOOO MOLSI
UNDERRATED AS FUCK OF A PLAYER
NOT SURE ABOUT ALIVE THO WISH THEY GOT JUGI
If he is so underrated you shouldn’t be happy he joined a team so mid lmao
NG1nS [#13]dude like why alive ? surely they have better options
from the scrim leaks i saw them tryout another jett/chamber player and that guy had better results
last guy could be destrian
Keeping cender on the Op and signing literally anyone else was a better option
Mortadelo [#16]Keeping cender on the Op and signing literally anyone else was a better option
i edited my post check it again, if i'm not crazy i think the other jett was benjyfish but i could be just wrong
i'm going off alts his name is toast on bean
also bro the last guy's alt is pieton which is a french word, and he plays controller, which french guy plays controller in emea?
SilentNight [#9]Molsi probably playing raze at some maps and yeah basically initiator
Yeah but that means Cender to sentinel Ig too, kinda sucks
NG1nS [#17]i edited my post check it again, if i'm not crazy i think the other jett was benjyfish but i could be just wrong
i'm going off alts his name is toast on beanalso bro the last guy's alt is pieton which is a french word, and he plays controller, which french guy plays controller in emea?
The detective huh, Idk how good of an option that is either tbh. Still Alpha has missed a bit recently so I wouldn’t take this as 100% tbh
This is the dark horse team. Molsi is really good and still underrated af. And I haven't seen much of ALIVE lately, but for what I remember he was for long time being one of the most promising Jett now Chamber players in tier 2. I think with right synergy and 5th player this team could do well and perform better than expected. Also people are talking about them going from caned to this, but eventually teams have to look into tier 2 and imo ALIVE is good option. If they added someone like Boo to help with calls this team could be good.
Mortadelo [#19]The detective huh, Idk how good of an option that is either tbh. Still Alpha has missed a bit recently so I wouldn’t take this as 100% tbh
let's say he's right about these four(which honestly makes sense depending on the scrims)
the last guy is probably french his name is pieton and he plays only controller, maybe bramz? ex vitality player
Mortadelo [#15]If he is so underrated you shouldn’t be happy he joined a team so mid lmao
i don't care honestly, still want molsi to fight up
NG1nS [#17]i edited my post check it again, if i'm not crazy i think the other jett was benjyfish but i could be just wrong
i'm going off alts his name is toast on beanalso bro the last guy's alt is pieton which is a french word, and he plays controller, which french guy plays controller in emea?
Interestingly pieton means pedestrian in French and who is Molsi's teammate? (pe)Destrian. So could me linked to him or one of OGLUs players like Boo.
patuj [#23]Interestingly pieton means pedestrian in French and who is Molsi's teammate? (pe)Destrian. So could me linked to him or one of OGLUs players like Boo.
i actually guessed destrian in my first comment but then deleted it bcz he's not french
but could be it honestly
also i did the same thing with translating it, idk if this helps but he also had a different name which is cyclist then changed it to pieton so idk if that means anything
NG1nS [#24]i actually guessed destrian in my first comment but then deleted it bcz he's not french
but could be it honestlyalso i did the same thing with translating it, idk if this helps but he also had a different name which is cyclist then changed it to pieton so idk if that means anything
Nah destrian is neither a OPer nor duelist
They are not picking him surely
toofan1 [#25]Nah destrian is neither a OPer nor duelist
They are not picking him surely
we're talking about the fifth player not the jett
NG1nS [#26]we're talking about the fifth player not the jett
Ohhh wait daddyG left right...mb
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I forgot about him.
They they might be picking zeek??
toofan1 [#27]Ohhh wait daddyG left right...mb
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I forgot about him.
They they might be picking zeek??
hmmm i don't think that's zeek tbh
toofan1 [#25]Nah destrian is neither a OPer nor duelist
They are not picking him surely
Traditional role wise they only need controller or initiator player depending on what BONECOLD will be playing. And apparently on the leaked scrim/trial pictures this pieton guy was playing initiators and controllers. So my bet would be on either Destrian or Boo.
Like what are the coincidences? Molsi(OGLU) and Salah(OGLU HC) both linked to Vitality and then you have a guy with this name playing. The name itself could be linked on Destrian, but its also possible that his teammate just uses it as alt name instead because in the end of the day as core they have been together for long and are probably friends.
SilentNight [#22]i don't care honestly, still want molsi to fight up
He could have gotten a better team tho, he deserved it
NG1nS [#21]let's say he's right about these four(which honestly makes sense depending on the scrims)
the last guy is probably french his name is pieton and he plays only controller, maybe bramz? ex vitality player
Omg that would be horrible xD, can’t think of any good French players available tbh, hope it’s someone baiting, still really disappointed with this roster
toofan1 [#32]-soulcas +molsi
For example, or simply just better teammates anywhere. For example going back to Giants for example and get a Fitinho, Molsi, Boo, Hoody, Monster (All ex Giants players) yk
Mortadelo [#34]For example, or simply just better teammates anywhere. For example going back to Giants for example and get a Fitinho, Molsi, Boo, Hoody, Monster (All ex Giants players) yk
You're so deluded if you think this team is worse than giants. Stop with your spanish supremacy bullshit, it's a shit weak region get over it.
hekzy [#37]You're so deluded if you think this team is worse than giants. Stop with your spanish supremacy bullshit, it's a shit weak region get over it.
Lmao xD I just put a random example of a team where Molsi would have better teammates if that team was made on Vitality would still be better than this shit they just made because this team is fucking mid af Idc what fucking org it was all I’m saying it Molsi deserves better than this
patuj [#20]This is the dark horse team. Molsi is really good and still underrated af. And I haven't seen much of ALIVE lately, but for what I remember he was for long time being one of the most promising Jett now Chamber players in tier 2. I think with right synergy and 5th player this team could do well and perform better than expected. Also people are talking about them going from caned to this, but eventually teams have to look into tier 2 and imo ALIVE is good option. If they added someone like Boo to help with calls this team could be good.
This is definitely not a dark horse team, Cender, Bonecold, and Alive can all be tier 1 players yes, but very low tier 1 compared to the rest of the league, and Molsi might be really good yeah but he can’t solo carry this, and tbh I can’t think of any 5th pick up that can solve it and even less if it’s french
hekzy [#37]You're so deluded if you think this team is worse than giants. Stop with your spanish supremacy bullshit, it's a shit weak region get over it.
Also you’re a big hater lmao what tf does Spain as a region have to do with this, we are talking about orgs not fucking players. I know you’re mad at the system for whatever reason but get the stick out of your ass and don’t hate for free
Mortadelo [#34]For example, or simply just better teammates anywhere. For example going back to Giants for example and get a Fitinho, Molsi, Boo, Hoody, Monster (All ex Giants players) yk
Cloud is trialing with Giants and both are cracked at raze so nahpe
patuj [#30]Traditional role wise they only need controller or initiator player depending on what BONECOLD will be playing. And apparently on the leaked scrim/trial pictures this pieton guy was playing initiators and controllers. So my bet would be on either Destrian or Boo.
Like what are the coincidences? Molsi(OGLU) and Salah(OGLU HC) both linked to Vitality and then you have a guy with this name playing. The name itself could be linked on Destrian, but its also possible that his teammate just uses it as alt name instead because in the end of the day as core they have been together for long and are probably friends.
Destrian used to be LDN's best player but he fell off
Valgod [#41]This is not better than the roster they just had. There are still some decent free agents available like cloud, zeek, twisten, monsteerr, nukkye, trexx, hoody and they go for this? Lmao
Molsi pick is the only right pick, alive tho lmao he sucks shit ngl
SilentNight [#42]Cloud is trialing with Giants and both are cracked at raze so nahpe
Both can play initiator tho and wait how do you know that? Really interesting
Valgod [#41]This is not better than the roster they just had. There are still some decent free agents available like cloud, zeek, twisten, monsteerr, nukkye, trexx, hoody and they go for this? Lmao
i see molsi and twisten agent pick is kinda overlap, seems like no Vitality Twisten then? :(
Mortadelo [#39]This is definitely not a dark horse team, Cender, Bonecold, and Alive can all be tier 1 players yes, but very low tier 1 compared to the rest of the league, and Molsi might be really good yeah but he can’t solo carry this, and tbh I can’t think of any 5th pick up that can solve it and even less if it’s french
I get your point, but I think they have potential. Like look at OGLU for example. They weren't top team in EMEA by any means, but still managed to do decent even when their individual players were pretty meh on paper outside of Molsi. Also Salah will be the coach and I'm Salah believer. Guys like ceNder and ALIVE has for long been so close of getting to tier 1 and now its their time finally. And even if we look at this year we had guys like Alfajer who was tier 2 sentinel player who almost instantly managed to roll people in tier 1. For example them possibly going for ALIVE over players like Twisten (or even cNed who knows was it for cNed to make the decision or for the team COPIUM) could be good sign. Maybe Twisten and cNed just got better offers and saw more potential on other team, but who knows maybe they think he could suit the team better. And as I said you have to look into tier 2 to pump up some unproven talent. ALIVE has been pretty top tier 2 player for long time, same with ceNder on his role.
Valgod [#41]This is not better than the roster they just had. There are still some decent free agents available like cloud, zeek, twisten, monsteerr, nukkye, trexx, hoody and they go for this? Lmao
IMO it is. Molsi is easily better than H1ber or Natank, and I think ALIVE is more consistent performer than H1ber. And out of those players ALIVE is the only one who has played Chamber and OP, outside of like Twisten and maybe Trexx. And Molsi is really comparable to all of the players you mentioned.
patuj [#48]I get your point, but I think they have potential. Like look at OGLU for example. They weren't top team in EMEA by any means, but still managed to do decent even when their individual players were pretty meh on paper outside of Molsi. Also Salah will be the coach and I'm Salah believer. Guys like ceNder and ALIVE has for long been so close of getting to tier 1 and now its their time finally. And even if we look at this year we had guys like Alfajer who was tier 2 sentinel player who almost instantly managed to roll people in tier 1. For example them possibly going for ALIVE over players like Twisten (or even cNed who knows was it for cNed to make the decision or for the team COPIUM) could be good sign. Maybe Twisten and cNed just got better offers and saw more potential on other team, but who knows maybe they think he could suit the team better. And as I said you have to look into tier 2 to pump up some unproven talent. ALIVE has been pretty top tier 2 player for long time, same with ceNder on his role.
I mean yeah sure, but that logic can literally be applied to any team right? You’re basically saying their roster looks mid on paper but they can upset, which is basically how every lower board team is gonna look
Also yeah OGLU did great but they had been playing together for so long and tbh the level was way worse than what this year is gonna be so it’s gonna be harder
patuj [#49]IMO it is. Molsi is easily better than H1ber or Natank, and I think ALIVE is more consistent performer than H1ber. And out of those players ALIVE is the only one who has played Chamber and OP, outside of like Twisten and maybe Trexx. And Molsi is really comparable to all of the players you mentioned.
Alive is not better than Hiber imo, and no I wouldn’t say he is more consistent either he chokes sometimes too.
On the other hand, Molsi is definitely an upgrade over BaddyG for example. 5th player remaining, it really has to be an impressive player for this to be a significant upgrade from last roster
Mortadelo [#51]Alive is not better than Hiber imo, and no I wouldn’t say he is more consistent either he chokes sometimes too.
On the other hand, Molsi is definitely an upgrade over BaddyG for example. 5th player remaining, it really has to be an impressive player for this to be a significant upgrade from last roster
I mean the think with H1ber in my opinion is that his peaks are pretty high, but he seems to be so inconsistent. He has games where he carries Vitality and then next he is doing nothing. While ALIVE is usually always the guy who performs on Excel/Finest etc the best.
but true that 5th player defines a lot and this isn't like crazy upgrade from last roster. But again I do believe that they can do decent under right coaching staff and if the players have good chemistry. And on top of that I don't think there is many better option to choose from. Like sure if they got like 7ssk7 I would be more confident, but I think you have to look tier 2 and pick players from there. We look too much into proven tier 1 talent, but forget that there might be hidden gems in tier 2 that just need polishing and we can't recycle same players over and over again.
Mortadelo [#40]Also you’re a big hater lmao what tf does Spain as a region have to do with this, we are talking about orgs not fucking players. I know you’re mad at the system for whatever reason but get the stick out of your ass and don’t hate for free
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patuj [#52]I mean the think with H1ber in my opinion is that his peaks are pretty high, but he seems to be so inconsistent. He has games where he carries Vitality and then next he is doing nothing. While ALIVE is usually always the guy who performs on Excel/Finest etc the best.
but true that 5th player defines a lot and this isn't like crazy upgrade from last roster. But again I do believe that they can do decent under right coaching staff and if the players have good chemistry. And on top of that I don't think there is many better option to choose from. Like sure if they got like 7ssk7 I would be more confident, but I think you have to look tier 2 and pick players from there. We look too much into proven tier 1 talent, but forget that there might be hidden gems in tier 2 that just need polishing and we can't recycle same players over and over again.
I kinda agree with everything but the part of this being best they could have done, there is a shortage of chambers yeah maybe but there’s plenty of good initiators, smokers, flexs and sentinels. Keeping Cender on chamber and signing a sentinel smoker would have been x10 times better, could have gotten Monster, could have gotten Twisten, could have gotten, hoody, zeek, even link idk, just not this
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I’m glad you read it cause it goes for people like him, and you, just spreading non based hate for no reason
Mortadelo [#45]Both can play initiator tho and wait how do you know that? Really interesting
Main character syndrome, you have your reasons so it's justified ig 😹😹😹
Wrong comment lol
Mortadelo [#50]I mean yeah sure, but that logic can literally be applied to any team right? You’re basically saying their roster looks mid on paper but they can upset, which is basically how every lower board team is gonna look
Also yeah OGLU did great but they had been playing together for so long and tbh the level was way worse than what this year is gonna be so it’s gonna be harder
Yes you can apply it to any team, but for me it especially applies to this roster. I think they have potential to do good, especially on expectations to actual results scale. Because right now many seem to think that this roster will suck ass.
but maybe im just coping as OGLU believer
Mortadelo [#54]I kinda agree with everything but the part of this being best they could have done, there is a shortage of chambers yeah maybe but there’s plenty of good initiators, smokers, flexs and sentinels. Keeping Cender on chamber and signing a sentinel smoker would have been x10 times better, could have gotten Monster, could have gotten Twisten, could have gotten, hoody, zeek, even link idk, just not this
Its not the best they could have done, but I think its still decent. I also think them getting proper Chamber/Jett player over ceNder is good, because he is still pretty good main sentinel player. He can play Cypher, Viper and Killjoy on good level. And even though I rate Monsteerr pretty highly I don't think that ceNder is much worse. And in my opinion Molsi is on same level if not better than guys like hoody and zeek especially. He is also really flexible. And BONECOLD will stay because he is the IGL and Vitality clearly believe in him and ceNder by keeping them. And when it comes to last player it likely depends on what BONECOLD will be playing is he going to be the initiator player or controller, because he has played both.
patuj [#58]Its not the best they could have done, but I think its still decent. I also think them getting proper Chamber/Jett player over ceNder is good, because he is still pretty good main sentinel player. He can play Cypher, Viper and Killjoy on good level. And even though I rate Monsteerr pretty highly I don't think that ceNder is much worse. And in my opinion Molsi is on same level if not better than guys like hoody and zeek especially. He is also really flexible. And BONECOLD will stay because he is the IGL and Vitality clearly believe in him and ceNder by keeping them. And when it comes to last player it likely depends on what BONECOLD will be playing is he going to be the initiator player or controller, because he has played both.
Yeah cender is very good, my argument to keep him on chamber and not getting back to a sentinel is not that I believe he is better on chamber, is that there is a shortage of chambers and not a shortage of sentinels, it's what's better for the team, not just the player individually yk
Mortadelo [#59]Yeah cender is very good, my argument to keep him on chamber and not getting back to a sentinel is not that I believe he is better on chamber, is that there is a shortage of chambers and not a shortage of sentinels, it's what's better for the team, not just the player individually yk
I get that, but this rumored roster doesn't have proper Jett player either. So if they just rely on ceNder Chamber and Molsi Raze or something then the roles could get fucked. While if they sign Jett player then again what he would be playing when ceNder is on Chamber. I think having proper Jett/Chamber player while your sentinel can also flex on Chamber is safer option going forward.
patuj [#60]I get that, but this rumored roster doesn't have proper Jett player either. So if they just rely on ceNder Chamber and Molsi Raze or something then the roles could get fucked. While if they sign Jett player then again what he would be playing when ceNder is on Chamber. I think having proper Jett/Chamber player while your sentinel can also flex on Chamber is safer option going forward.
Fair enough, still mid team imo, better than turks but similar to Corp, and we'll see how heretics and Giants turn out
Mortadelo [#40]Also you’re a big hater lmao what tf does Spain as a region have to do with this, we are talking about orgs not fucking players. I know you’re mad at the system for whatever reason but get the stick out of your ass and don’t hate for free
dude youre like spanish vrl propagator. literally full bias in every post its actually hurtful
hekzy [#63]dude youre like spanish vrl propagator. literally full bias in every post its actually hurtful
That’s the thing tho, I wasn’t even trying to talk about Spanish teams, I was saying Molsi deserved a better team than that shit, that’s literally it bro. I gave an example of an roster that would be better for him and chose Giants to put it on cause doesn’t have a roster yet and Molsi has been there. But if you tell me that roster I just said was in fucking KCORP I would still tell you that is fucking better.
You’re the one making this about Spain my friend, you’re way too obsessed
Mortadelo [#64]That’s the thing tho, I wasn’t even trying to talk about Spanish teams, I was saying Molsi deserved a better team than that shit, that’s literally it bro. I gave an example of an roster that would be better for him and chose Giants to put it on cause doesn’t have a roster yet and Molsi has been there. But if you tell me that roster I just said was in fucking KCORP I would still tell you that is fucking better.
You’re the one making this about Spain my friend, you’re way too obsessed
blahblahblah, the funny thing is that the first three orgs that came to your mind are koi, heretics and giants. Watch as all three of them will end below Vitality this year.
"yeah these teammates are dogwater im sure he would be better off with gods like neptuNo"
hekzy [#67]blahblahblah, the funny thing is that the first three orgs that came to your mind are koi, heretics and giants. Watch as all three of them will end below Vitality this year.
"yeah these teammates are dogwater im sure he would be better off with gods like neptuNo"
God you’re dumb, tell me genious, what org should I have said instead, the top 3 ones are closed, Turks are going for Turks and KCORP is going for French, so only 3 orgs with international mixes left. And the sad thing is that you know it but you choose to use the demagogic argument instead, common Bruh
“yeah these teammates are dogwater im sure he would be better off with gods like neptuNo”
It literally took KOI 10 minutes to bench all their players after they lost, so haters like you don’t even have time to hate but I guess it didn’t work. And again you’re the one making this about Spain again I was just talking about fucking Molsi playing with fucking Alive, Cender, and Bonecold.
kaesra [#2]bruh they went from trying to get cned to this 💀
That and somehow they let BaddyG slip through their fingers
Molsi is a W tho
Mjtchell [#71]That and somehow they let BaddyG slip through their fingers
Molsi is a W tho
They didn’t let him slip, they kicked him lmao
Mortadelo [#72]They didn’t let him slip, they kicked him lmao
From BaddyG's twitter it made it sound like they werent offer him enough money
Mjtchell [#73]From BaddyG's twitter it made it sound like they werent offer him enough money
Which is the same than kicking him, cause I highly doubt BaddyG left for better offers, Vitality just didn’t wanna pay Ig
Mortadelo [#74]Which is the same than kicking him, cause I highly doubt BaddyG left for better offers, Vitality just didn’t wanna pay Ig
So they let him slip by not paying him enough
Mjtchell [#75]So they let him slip by not paying him enough
Ig so, all I’m saying is is not that BaddyG had a big offer Vitality just couldn’t match, more like they didn’t want him
kaesra [#2]bruh they went from trying to get cned to this 💀
Cned is overrated, are you suggesting Molsi is not a good signing?
Olofboost [#78]Cned is overrated, are you suggesting Molsi is not a good signing?
Is not Molsi who they are signing in place of cNed, is freaking Alive lmao
ALIVE is insane, I think everyone forgot how ALIVE diff them https://www.vlr.gg/121458/excel-vs-team-vitality-valorant-regional-leagues-2022-finals-elim-a
lorenzopajaroFC [#65]For fucks sake this is such a mid team, lacks any championship flair only Molsi and bonecold should be staying the rest all belong in T2 French pugs
Why didn’t they get jugi, kicks, idk players with actual T1 talent
fr jugi+molsi would be a great pickup unless some team picked up jugi already
Darkhorse [#81]ALIVE is insane, I think everyone forgot how ALIVE diff them https://www.vlr.gg/121458/excel-vs-team-vitality-valorant-regional-leagues-2022-finals-elim-a
That's one game
Mortadelo [#68]God you’re dumb, tell me genious, what org should I have said instead, the top 3 ones are closed, Turks are going for Turks and KCORP is going for French, so only 3 orgs with international mixes left. And the sad thing is that you know it but you choose to use the demagogic argument instead, common Bruh
“yeah these teammates are dogwater im sure he would be better off with gods like neptuNo”
It literally took KOI 10 minutes to bench all their players after they lost, so haters like you don’t even have time to hate but I guess it didn’t work. And again you’re the one making this about Spain again I was just talking about fucking Molsi playing with fucking Alive, Cender, and Bonecold.
Firstly. Liquid isn't a done deal. He can literally replace Soulcas. Fnatic is not a done deal, he could also go there. NaVi not so much because they have shao and zyppan. Vitality obviously. BBL is not a 100% of going full turkish. Nor is KCorp 100% of going full French.
But I see your point, way too many deadbeat spanish org in franchising. It really gives the players little choice as to where they can go.
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