FNC is the only true superteam on the list while Loud was already a well established superteam.
C9 is not a superteam and same as 100T like it is a improvement for both teams but they would'nt rly every be considered superteam cause a superteam roster from NA would be smth around the lines of Yay, Zekken, marved, crashies/trent, zander/valyn/vanity
namelessv2 [#2]FNC is the only true superteam on the list while Loud was already a well established superteam.
C9 is not a superteam and same as 100T like it is a improvement for both teams but they would'nt rly every be considered superteam cause a superteam roster from NA would be smth around the lines of Yay, Zekken, marved, crashies/trent, zander/valyn/vanity
you're wild if you don't think c9 is a superteam, one of the major reasons they fell behind was having no primary chamber and now they have the best chamber in the world.
Xuhi [#4]you're wild if you don't think c9 is a superteam, one of the major reasons they fell behind was having no primary chamber and now they have the best chamber in the world.
They still aren't better than teams like DRX / FPX (NAVI), especially right off the bat when they are still building chemistry. FPX should be 3rd imo
Neonfreak [#6]They still aren't better than teams like DRX / FPX (NAVI), especially right off the bat when they are still building chemistry. FPX should be 3rd imo
I feel like you if you make that claim then you would have to say the same about Fnatic for the same reasons, bc the player quality is roughly the same.
Xuhi [#8]I feel like you if you make that claim then you would have to say the same about Fnatic for the same reasons, bc the player quality is roughly the same.
the player quality is not nearly the same lmfaoo. yay > Derke, alfajer > leaf by a lot, leo > trent , chronicle > xeppa, boaster > vanity. Only advantage C9 would have is with yay being a better chamber and that would not be close to enough.
Queefbreath [#10]LOUD?
https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf
this should answer.Sacy worst ACS of Loud and ended +19. All players have good firepower.
thiagomds [#11]Sorry but FNC never was a superteam. Derke and alfaijer used to frag way more than the others.
I didn't say they were lol
Neonfreak [#9]the player quality is not nearly the same lmfaoo. yay > Derke, alfajer > leaf by a lot, leo > trent , chronicle > xeppa, boaster > vanity. Only advantage C9 would have is with yay being a better chamber and that would not be close to enough.
Yay> Derke Leaf= Alfa Leo > Trent but not by that much and 5th could also be someone like marved and marved> Leo Chronicle > xeppaa and I'd prob give you boaster over vanity but vanity again probably not by that much
Xuhi [#15]Yay> Derke Leaf= Alfa Leo > Trent but not by that much and 5th could also be someone like marved and marved> Leo Chronicle > xeppaa and I'd prob give you boaster over vanity but vanity again probably not by that much
I'm not necessarily saying that fnatic isn't better, but what I am saying is that c9 shouldn't be that far off...
Xuhi [#15]Yay> Derke Leaf= Alfa Leo > Trent but not by that much and 5th could also be someone like marved and marved> Leo Chronicle > xeppaa and I'd prob give you boaster over vanity but vanity again probably not by that much
Alfa is not equal to leaf. Leaf's performance has gone only downhill this year. Alfa other than Neon has proved to be one of the best in this champs, insane of raze and kj. I mean if you're simply looking on paper, FNC roster just cant get better, but ofc we all know its not always the firepower alone that determines a team's success.
BoF7ooM [#18]Alfa is not equal to leaf. Leaf's performance has gone only downhill this year. Alfa other than Neon has proved to be one of the best in this champs, insane of raze and kj. I mean if you're simply looking on paper, FNC roster just cant get better, but ofc we all know its not always the firepower alone that determines a team's success.
He's only been going downhill because all the pressure to perform is on him. He's hardly ever gone negative in all the games he has played. He was forced onto chamber when he has always been better on agents like jett and neon. He can now play primary duelist/flex now instead of the chamber and op role which he was never comfortable with anyways. alfa is still better by a bit, but it won't be for long.
Tl;dr leaf hasn't gotten worse ,he has been playing the wrong roles. Alfajer atill better but leaf will get better too.
unknown_trash [#20]He's only been going downhill because all the pressure to perform is on him. He's hardly ever gone negative in all the games he has played. He was forced onto chamber when he has always been better on agents like jett and neon. He can now play primary duelist/flex now instead of the chamber and op role which he was never comfortable with anyways. alfa is still better by a bit, but it won't be for long.
Tl;dr leaf hasn't gotten worse ,he has been playing the wrong roles. Alfajer atill better but leaf will get better too.
True, they even used to put him on skye sometimes lol
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