unbiased post here
I saw the replay
and honestly, its def a replayable situation
the first kj turret bullet goes heaven because angel hides
the second kj turret bullet goes towards angel because hes in the open
but the third kj bullet? angel is even more in the open but the kj turret bullet goes towards heaven again, thats def a bug
seankuku [#2]this doesn't deserve a replay
I personally dont think they need to replay the round because small bugs happen all the time
but if riot are trying to determine if it was a bug, it was 100% a bug
Marty [#6]he got out of the turret pov, you can see from before the turret shoots at all. Angel was out then he goes to the side and the turret sees him, then the turret "bug" happens
actually this makes a lot of sense...
Marty [#6]he got out of the turret pov, you can see from before the turret shoots at all. Angel was out then he goes to the side and the turret sees him, then the turret "bug" happens
yeah I saw that, but 3rd bullet he was in the open
KoreanOverlord [#4]I personally dont think they need to replay the round because small bugs happen all the time
but if riot are trying to determine if it was a bug, it was 100% a bug
it's been like this ever since kj's release. This is not fair for FPX
patuj [#9]But that is how KJ turret works it really isn't a bug. Its just fault in the game and FPX didn't abuse it.
yup, but riot is deciding if it was a bug in order to replay the round
if they can replicate it in custom then round should not be replayed
Mortadelo [#12]I’m obviously biased so I’m gonna ask you, obviously that turret was not supposed to be shooting there, my question is in your opinion how much does that affect the round?
I personally dont think they need to replay the round because small bugs happen all the time
this is my stance, would suck for FPX if it replayed, but its not a black and white decision
KoreanOverlord [#10]yeah I saw that, but 3rd bullet he was in the open
yes but before the clip begins hes in the same spot and the turret didnt see. So he was out in the open out of the pov, then he moves close to the edge of door, and he gets into the turret pov. Then the turret shoots behind, angel goes back out, it shoots at him, then he goes more open but out of the turret pov causing the turret to shoot back once again.
Marty [#15]yes but before the clip begins hes in the same spot and the turret didnt see. So he was out in the open out of the pov, then he moves close to the edge of door, and he gets into the turret pov. Then the turret shoots behind, angel goes back out, it shoots at him, then he goes more open but out of the turret pov causing the turret to shoot back once again.
hmm maybe you are right
KoreanOverlord [#14]I personally dont think they need to replay the round because small bugs happen all the time
this is my stance, would suck for FPX if it replayed, but its not a black and white decision
Yeah but I meant, do you think they would have still won the round?
KoreanOverlord [#13]yup, but riot is deciding if it was a bug in order to replay the round
if they can replicate it in custom then round should not be replayed
I mean that is just how KJ turret works. Obviously maybe in that specific situation it bugged or something, but similar has happened in pro games before and even my own games. Turret just shoots to opposite direction from where the enemy is because it starts the burst but then resets position when player disappears from pov
Mortadelo [#18]Yeah but I meant, do you think they would have still won the round?
Im going to be honest with you, from a immortal valo player
that kj turret bullets slows u down while u take chip damage if u dont break it, there is 0 chance to know if fpx wouldve won or not
but the real question is, is the kj turret actually bugged in that single instance? or, does it always work like that? if they go in custom server can they replicate it?
This is what I saw:
Remember the KJ turret has a 180-degree view, it can't lock on to players behind it.
The first jiggle out activates the turret and it shoots one bullet.
He jiggles back behind the door of the wall and the turret locks back to default and shoots its second shot.
He jiggles back out even wider and the turret shoots its 3rd shot heaven as he is behind the turret's 180 view as he swung so wide so the turret goes back to default and shoots heaven.
You're asking why it didn't target him when he was 'in the open' it's because he was behind the turret's 180-degree view.
This has been a feature for so long, I don't think FPX's win should be taken away because of this.
KoreanOverlord [#20]Im going to be honest with you, from a immortal valo player
that kj turret bullets slows u down while u take chip damage if u dont break it, there is 0 chance to know if fpx wouldve won or not
but the real question is, is the kj turret actually bugged in that single instance? or, does it always work like that? if they go in custom server can they replicate it?
I mean why would it work like that? Isn’t the turret supposed to only shoot enemy’s? Both enemy’s were coming from the other side right? Idk bro, sucks to end like this, but I don’t think a replay would be fair
B3AN [#21]This is what I saw:
Remember the KJ turret has a 180-degree view, it can't lock on to players behind it.
The first jiggle out activates the turret and it shoots one bullet.
He jiggles back behind the door of the wall and the turret locks back to default and shoots its second shot.He jiggles back out even wider and the turret shoots its 3rd shot heaven as he is behind the turret's 180 view as he swung so wide so the turret goes back to default and shoots heaven.
You're asking why it didn't target him when he was 'in the open' it's because he was behind the turret's 180-degree view.
This has been a feature for so long, I don't think FPX's win should be taken away because of this.
yeah after rewatching it for 3rd time Im pretty sure this should not be replayed lol
edit: actually im not sure anymore, LOL
KoreanOverlord [#23]yeah after rewatching it for 3rd time Im pretty sure this should not be replayed lol
edit: actually im not sure anymore, LOL
the thing is they can't even call it a bug, how is riot supposed to 'fix' the turret mechanic in that situation?
Where should the turret look if ANGE1 went behind it, where is the turret supposed to look when he jiggles back in?
How are you supposed to code a working turret mechanic that doesn't do what it just did in-game because it did exactly what it code told it to do, lock onto anyone in its view and ANGE1 went in and out of its view. His movement clearly shows that he wasn't trying to abuse this mechanic either.
FPX can't be robbed of this win because of that.
Mortadelo [#22]I mean why would it work like that? Isn’t the turret supposed to only shoot enemy’s? Both enemy’s were coming from the other side right? Idk bro, sucks to end like this, but I don’t think a replay would be fair
sliggy just repeated the same thing I said
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