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nieSoW retiring before Lan

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#1
Caperalli

Turns out this guy was spot on.

https://twitter.com/PokeyEsports/status/1362863531650080769?s=20

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wdym?

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AIGHTTTTT IMMMMMMMA HEAD OUT

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hmmmmm

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Caperalli [#3]

https://twitter.com/Lembo006/status/1374323779019677696?s=19

he's had issues for months now. If you're saying he's cheating, i would love to see a clip where you said "yeah, definitely cheating"

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pampire [#6]

he's had issues for months now. If you're saying he's cheating, i would love to see a clip where you said "yeah, definitely cheating"

You expect him to follow enemies behind walls? LMAO!

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PussyJett [#7]

You expect him to follow enemies behind walls? LMAO!

no. For example nisay had a few controversial clips. Please show me a contreversial niesow clip.

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SUS

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no way bro

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Hope it's not cause of cheating

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clocksky888 [#11]

Hope it's not cause of cheating

He has family issues RN

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pampire [#8]

no. For example nisay had a few controversial clips. Please show me a contreversial niesow clip.

dude, in valorant cheating is easy when you have a good hack! i dont believe what niesow say about his real life. now imagine you have a wallhack/radar hack. he than calls his Raze "hey can you grenade this spot" or he just reveal the right spot its enough. nobody would use aimbots in this game. so forget busting people with Video material in this game. Especially not when you have communication. dont be so naive to think nobody hacks in this game. this is just annother game people will cheat on... theres no game thats free from cheaters. riot couldnt even proof nisay cheating. they just felt he cheated and thats why he got a 1 year Ban instead of lifetime!

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pampire [#6]

he's had issues for months now. If you're saying he's cheating, i would love to see a clip where you said "yeah, definitely cheating"

All Im saying is, hes one of the best players in the game. Walking away from one of the best teams in the game. Walking away from a career where he likely makes enough money to retire in 2-3 years at the rate Valorant is growing. Its suspect is all.

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xd_mau5 [#12]

He has family issues RN

Here is a question for you. Would you give up a well paid job $5k-10k if you had family issues, especially if you knew you're not going to find anything close to such income in future? I will answer for you right here - NO YOU WILL NOT RETIRE. One just not retire from a well paid job just cause of family issues. Examples from recent past are Shahzam and Davidp, just in case.

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xd_mau5 [#12]

He has family issues RN

officially he has family issius and he cant play but people saw him playing other games for hours when he paused playing VAL for Heretics. that guy is strange. i can imagine myself riot caught him cheating but they cant announce the community they have a european first strike winner champion team that won with a cheater. how would that look like for Val? thats just a theory but for me its possible that it actually happened like this. for me it was funny enough to let the sus guy play sova... perfect agent to abuse wallhack!

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clocksky888 [#15]

Here is a question for you. Would you give up a well paid job $5k-10k if you had family issues, especially if you knew you're not going to find anything close to such income in future? I will answer for you right here - NO YOU WILL NOT RETIRE. One just not retire from a well paid job just cause of family issues. Examples from recent past are Shahzam and Davidp, just in case.

@clocksky888 for billions of people pro gamer is a dream job and niesow be like "No, imma go work like real man and make myself dirty!"

what ever "family issius" he had, this issius will grow much bigger now since he gets less money for his family.

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kinda sus to me

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PussyJett [#17]

@clocksky888 for billions of people pro gamer is a dream job and niesow be like "No, imma go work like real man and make myself dirty!"

what ever "family issius" he had, this issius will grow much bigger now since he gets less money for his family.

there was a player in CSS that played for one of the best teams called mTw and that guy cheated really like theres no tomorrow and you know what? that guy missed his flight to a LAN TWICE! FUCKING TWICE! He couldn't show up! thats german Pro Gamer for you bro...

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I called it and you all downvoted my comments. The moment he retires is the moment he has confirmed my suspicions.

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If I have to give him benefit of doubt, then I hope everything is alright but it's just hard man... I can't

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hekzy [#20]

I called it and you all downvoted my comments. The moment he retires is the moment he has confirmed my suspicions.

test

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PussyJett [#19]

there was a player in CSS that played for one of the best teams called mTw and that guy cheated really like theres no tomorrow and you know what? that guy missed his flight to a LAN TWICE! FUCKING TWICE! He couldn't show up! thats german Pro Gamer for you bro...

Aye, the thing is anticheat doesn't work immediately in identifying a cheater in the game, as many Valorantians or cs players want to believe. It needs time and suspects can even play for months with their cheats. As soon as anticheeat AI spot two or more case with similar load in memory etc it would mark them for a deeper analysis. There is much deeper explanation ofc but cheaters could play for months undetected. Now, even the most expensive cheats leak and eventually people will get banned - there is no question about it. Also, RIOT do hell of job to ban cheaters by targeting those cheats devs through courts.

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Just saw this https://twitter.com/FRESHY_GG/status/1374383106346471430 and I think this dude really does dodge lans :v

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PussyJett [#13]

dude, in valorant cheating is easy when you have a good hack! i dont believe what niesow say about his real life. now imagine you have a wallhack/radar hack. he than calls his Raze "hey can you grenade this spot" or he just reveal the right spot its enough. nobody would use aimbots in this game. so forget busting people with Video material in this game. Especially not when you have communication. dont be so naive to think nobody hacks in this game. this is just annother game people will cheat on... theres no game thats free from cheaters. riot couldnt even proof nisay cheating. they just felt he cheated and thats why he got a 1 year Ban instead of lifetime!

As much as I want to disagree with you, there's definitely a strong argument in there.

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PussyJett [#17]

@clocksky888 for billions of people pro gamer is a dream job and niesow be like "No, imma go work like real man and make myself dirty!"

what ever "family issius" he had, this issius will grow much bigger now since he gets less money for his family.

Agree.... I used to work in HR at one point and I've never heard that someone would leave their well paid job cause of familly issues. Let's stay positive about this issue lol. But if I was part of SUMFC currentlu FNATIC, I'd start digging - just sainnnnnn....

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Nothing to see here.

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ok im gonna say this, imagine niseow cheated for a whole fucking year the whole fucking community accussed him of it you would think valorant would have spent hours looking for shit, they didnt find shit. this whole fucking community made shit up about how hes banned in 4 different games.... hes been banned in 1 game and even there the devs said they didnt have enough evidence to actually ban him. Like he may have cheated who knows but im willing to take the benefit of the doubt whatever it is is serious enough that right now he doesnt want to compete and i hope hes fine.

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fontea [#28]

ok im gonna say this, imagine niseow cheated for a whole fucking year the whole fucking community accussed him of it you would think valorant would have spent hours looking for shit, they didnt find shit. this whole fucking community made shit up about how hes banned in 4 different games.... hes been banned in 1 game and even there the devs said they didnt have enough evidence to actually ban him. Like he may have cheated who knows but im willing to take the benefit of the doubt whatever it is is serious enough that right now he doesnt want to compete and i hope hes fine.

Just going to bring nice argument here.... Actually if you have good grasp of programming, you can write your own custom cheats that only you will be using. The problem with commercially distributed cheats is when couple of people or heaps are getting reported, meaning the begining of deeper investigation. The Ai is looking for a pattern to ban, basically.... Now imagine ofc if you could write your own cheat and use it only yourself. Now, we are talking.... You can literally be undetected and I have met and talked to people like that back in cs who write their own cheats.

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fontea [#28]

ok im gonna say this, imagine niseow cheated for a whole fucking year the whole fucking community accussed him of it you would think valorant would have spent hours looking for shit, they didnt find shit. this whole fucking community made shit up about how hes banned in 4 different games.... hes been banned in 1 game and even there the devs said they didnt have enough evidence to actually ban him. Like he may have cheated who knows but im willing to take the benefit of the doubt whatever it is is serious enough that right now he doesnt want to compete and i hope hes fine.

of course they wouldnt find shit on his PC since you can have cheats on your phone, USB Stick. Google radar Hack designed for Smartphone. There was people on CSGO LANs who charged their Smartphones at their PC laying in front of em! Youre busy at LAN, playing BIG GAMES and you know what? Your Smartphone must be near you... :) A good hack for private use at Home is on a stick! You stick it in and it does what you paid for! Riot can do whatever they want but they wont find a good cheat that way.

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Estiggma [#31]

https://twitter.com/Tanizhq/status/1374470760350150665?s=20

i hope this shuts up all the people calling him a lan dodger

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Estiggma [#31]

https://twitter.com/Tanizhq/status/1374470760350150665?s=20

"Firstly, the report is false, niesoW is not retiring, he is taking an extended break right now to focus on real life and his family situation." - Dude, this is LAN dodging! He has his excuse to dodge any LAN he want and after LAN he be like "Imma fine for now, let's play Online guys Kappa!" and if LAN Event is nearby he will again be like "Man my real life sux, i need a break again, cya Kappa!".

Hes dodging LAN and whoever this tanziq guy is defend it like he has the biggest counter... Hes just confirming niesow not playing the upcoming LAN Event and he will be back when Online Games matter again! Hahaha

Retiring or pausing until LAN Events are over is the same. who cares about your personal definition man...

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pampire [#32]

i hope this shuts up all the people calling him a lan dodger

hes not dodging right? LMAO! dude hes still not showing up and he decides himself when he will play! this guys owe the community a better statement! i cant imagine myself a single real life problem that would make me end my gaming career so i will have to do find other ways to earn money anyway. tell me what he will do now when he doesnt get money? will he search a job and quit the job right after he start by saying "hey sir, you know what. i quit my job! i have real life problems!". pro gaming is a job... you dont quit it for lame reasons since everyone has to work to earn money or not? and this guy is throwing away his source of money like hes rich and doesnt care...

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PussyJett [#33]

"Firstly, the report is false, niesoW is not retiring, he is taking an extended break right now to focus on real life and his family situation." - Dude, this is LAN dodging! He has his excuse to dodge any LAN he want and after LAN he be like "Imma fine for now, let's play Online guys Kappa!" and if LAN Event is nearby he will again be like "Man my real life sux, i need a break again, cya Kappa!".

Hes dodging LAN and whoever this tanziq guy is defend it like he has the biggest counter... Hes just confirming niesow not playing the upcoming LAN Event and he will be back when Online Games matter again! Hahaha

Retiring or pausing until LAN Events are over is the same. who cares about your personal definition man...

name checks out

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clocksky888 [#23]

Aye, the thing is anticheat doesn't work immediately in identifying a cheater in the game, as many Valorantians or cs players want to believe. It needs time and suspects can even play for months with their cheats. As soon as anticheeat AI spot two or more case with similar load in memory etc it would mark them for a deeper analysis. There is much deeper explanation ofc but cheaters could play for months undetected. Now, even the most expensive cheats leak and eventually people will get banned - there is no question about it. Also, RIOT do hell of job to ban cheaters by targeting those cheats devs through courts.

Also, they hardware ban the hackers, not just account ban.

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clocksky888 [#15]

Here is a question for you. Would you give up a well paid job $5k-10k if you had family issues, especially if you knew you're not going to find anything close to such income in future? I will answer for you right here - NO YOU WILL NOT RETIRE. One just not retire from a well paid job just cause of family issues. Examples from recent past are Shahzam and Davidp, just in case.

I quit while earning 15k+/month without a back up plan while in debt because I was burnout and covid + other stuff I won't mention. What the fuck do you know about how hard things can be behind the scenes for a person.

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clocksky888 [#29]

Just going to bring nice argument here.... Actually if you have good grasp of programming, you can write your own custom cheats that only you will be using. The problem with commercially distributed cheats is when couple of people or heaps are getting reported, meaning the begining of deeper investigation. The Ai is looking for a pattern to ban, basically.... Now imagine ofc if you could write your own cheat and use it only yourself. Now, we are talking.... You can literally be undetected and I have met and talked to people like that back in cs who write their own cheats.

All of that is ofc true, and there may be a world where he cheated and riot not find out but the point of the message was more so bringing up that the fact that hes not some sort of serial cheater has no real evidence and is smth overblown by ppl in this community and that until theres some hard proof ppl just need to chill. Like imagine he didnt cheat and everyone sees all the work he put into it as cheating and shit if that was me my mental would be so incredibly boomed

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jOELZ 2.0

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like u cant cheat on lan (:

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Taimou [#37]

I quit while earning 15k+/month without a back up plan while in debt because I was burnout and covid + other stuff I won't mention. What the fuck do you know about how hard things can be behind the scenes for a person.

I hope you're doing fine and feeling better.

Bruhhhhhh..... Are you trying to convince me that pro players in various eSport disciplines are so overwhelmed "behind the scenes" that they drop out like flies? Is it rly? What exactly do they do there, for example? Do they hack down trees in -50 degree Celsius for 17 hours a day? Or maybe they're removing ice from freight tankers in the same frigid Alaskan winter? They lie in ridiculously cosy gaming chairs and play games on their mice and keyboards..... That is what there is to it. I believe you understand what I'm trying to say, correct? KID, GROW SOME BALLS AND DO YOUR JOB. You weren't forced to do so in the first place. It was both your ideal job and a great opportunity to make some $.

Regarding nieSoW, he is only being questioned due to his certain decisions that to some seem suspicious. People generaly discuss such things in forums to reflect their own opinions. And I can assure you many here have experienced enough "hard, normal or soft things" in life to contribute.

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clocksky888 [#15]

Here is a question for you. Would you give up a well paid job $5k-10k if you had family issues, especially if you knew you're not going to find anything close to such income in future? I will answer for you right here - NO YOU WILL NOT RETIRE. One just not retire from a well paid job just cause of family issues. Examples from recent past are Shahzam and Davidp, just in case.

Shahzam and DavidP's dads died, from what I know nieSoW hasn't had a family member pass away but maybe someone is sick or something like that so don't compare the 2. Also everyone handles things differently and have different situations. Idk much about DavidP and Shahz's situations as to whether their dads were sick or something like that but maybe nieSoW has a sick family member and there's no one else to take care of his family member. That's a completely different scenario to the other 2.

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lmfao i remember jOELZ dodging every lan

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(づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ I also cheat

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