No I was saying that they should've signed him before Xset did
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No I was saying that they should've signed him before Xset did
NaturE can play most agents(duelists + sentinels + viper and breach) and IGL'ed for IMT and is now the IGL for GenG... In case you haven't noticed IMT have looked atrocious without NaturE and Stani and GenG have looked pretty good recently. dephh would be better but NaturE would also be great.
Nah after Bugha won the Fortnite WC they were put on the map
That's it. That seals the deal. I am no longer a Sentinels fan. This team is a pure and utter embarrassment. I officially will not be renewing my Tier 3 Tenz Twitch sub nor my Tier 3 Shahzam sub. I'm going to T1 where they know how to run a team
Yeah Asuna and nitr0 had an off day and we did qual so shhhh. Remind me when C9 play today again? 1 Fluke 3rd place and they think they're the shit
I mean tbf HiKo is literally known for clutching so idk what your point was there. Steel also clearly is passionate considering how much thought he puts into his set ups with Killjoy and shit. All 100T needs to do is adapt to the meta and they should be a top 3 team in NA
You are probably right because eeiu is the only one(I think) that has IGL experience in Val from T1 Academy(and also maybe when he was on T1 for a bit)
yeah like farewellVAL said eeiu would most likely IGL considering he was the IGL for T1 academy and for when he was apart of T!(I believe)
Nah most people knew them cause of Bugha and stfu about not caring about them before TenZ. They have obviously been the best team in NA months for months before TenZ joined. Just mad that TSM has been shit for months and even before then, they were always finishing 2nd behind Sen and 100T. Keep acting like Bang replacing reltuC is gonna magically fix your team cause it's hilarious af
Everyone on G2 besides Pyth played good(especially considering it was their first game as a team) and now they have some time to practice with keloqz. Also there's 9 days before Challengers 1, a month before Challengers 2, 2 months before Challengers playoffs and 3 before Berlin so they have plenty of time to adjust. Also don't overreact to 1 game. Vision Strikers also have plenty of time to adapt and with their roster and with glow coaching, they should be better than their old team. Just keep in mind how much time there is and also I kinda forgot about Heretics but they are dangerous. When their first roster was constructed I knew it was going to be great(I didn't expect it to turn out as good as it did though) and now they have some great, under the radar guys coming in as well as the G2 boys.
Yes he was good against tier 2 and 3 players but again he's not much better than reltuC to the point that he turns them from a bottom tier 1 team into a top team like so many people are saying.
EMEA: Fnatic, G2, Gambit, Blaze(FPX and Liquid could 100% qual instead of Blaze, G2 or Gambit)
NA: Sen, 100T, C9B(last 2 spots can be numerous teams like V1, TSM, ABX, GenG or Envy but I think at least 1 of 100T and C9B will make it alongside Sen)
BR: Vikings, Gamelanders(Furia and Havan Liberty could definitely take Gamelander's place)
KR: Nuturn, Vision Strikers
SEA: X10 and someone else
JP: CR and someone else
LATAM: KRU
Still one of the bottom tier 1 teams. Idk why everyone is acting like Bang is TenZ or something just cause he does good in tier 2/3 games. Sure he might be better than reltuC but he isn't good enough to elevate TSM to be a top tier 1 team
Also this ninja defuse from GenG in Pop Flash to win against C9B on split B was insane(https://youtu.be/0MVjKoo_s2U?t=2382)
The 2 that I can think of are Asuna's ace on A site bind vs Andbox(https://youtu.be/EfqGrURxeT8) and Shot_Up's sheriff 3k on A Ascent vs C9B(https://youtu.be/ZdvwefJVb-0?t=89)
Might be at best the worst tier 1 NA team only because of Asuna. The other 4 are tier 2 players for a reason.
Envy>FaZe, Gambit is CIS not EU and FPX and Fnatic>>>Acend
Yeah C9 definitely isn't top 2 in NA in terms of individual talent but they're somewhat up there. I mean we haven't seen much of Floppy and we haven't seen anything from xeppaa but going off what we've seen so far, teams like 100T, Envy, FaZe and maybe even IMT have more individual skill than C9 and poiz's potential is no where close to TenZ's level.
In the early days, T1 didn't play in many tourneys outside of the Ignition Series tourneys and they fell behind the rest of the competition so I don't think Sen sitting out all of the tournaments until November would be a good idea... Plus if they do play it's better for NA since Sen playing means NA would have a better chance of winning at Berlin and if NA wins Berlin, NA gets 4 slots instead of 3
I mean Shahzam is so good at prepping for other teams so it doesn't matter too much if you have good strats
Fnatic has to be #1 right now but FPX should be 2nd or 3rd if you think Liquid is 2nd. However, G2's new rumored roster looks insanely good so they might be a top 3 team as well but as of right now, Fnatic, FPX and Liquid are the top 3 teams in EU.
Sen 5-0 FNC... Sure all the maps were close but still Fnatic never took 1 map in a BO3 and BO5 series so Sen is clearly the better team and just the best in the world
Yeah like I was saying, neither Liquid nor V1 did shit before the Challengers Finals so the argument of "EU didn't have it's best teams" could also easily apply to NA with V1. Personally, I didn't think V1 was a top 2 team until they beat Liquid and now I'm uncertain. The thing about NA is that there is 1 consistent #1 team with Sen but the #2 team is constantly changing. After First Strike, 100T looked like the #2 or even #1 team in NA, then after NV beat Sen, they looked like a top 2 team, then FaZe looked like the #2 team after they dominated everyone but Sen and now V1 looks like the #2 team because of their lower bracket run in the Challengers Finals. With EU, FPX is always like top 3 but they have always been overshadowed by 1 or 2 teams. Before First Strike it was G2, after First Strike it was Heretics and Fnatic, then after Masters it was Acend and Heretics and now it is Liquid and Fnatic. Also you say Liquid just got good seeding but they won the EMEA finals, beating FPX and Fnatic. V1 is absolutely a great team and are 100% a top 5 team in NA(same goes for Liquid in EU) and they were great representatives but what I'm saying is Liquid and V1 aren't really top 2 teams in EU and NA but only made it to Iceland due to extremely recent success. In my mind, the team that have been consistently great for months like FPX, 100T and Envy all are better teams than Liquid and V1 cause anyone can have a good tourney at any given moment.
Kryptix just had a bad event... He was the 3rd best player on Liquid before this event but if you want to point out a player that is the issue you have to point to Soulcas. There's many better IGLs out there and he is consistently the worst or second worst player on Liquid. Do they need roster changes? No but if they had to make a roster change, they should look for a better IGL and let Soulcas go.
V1 beat Liquid with a sub they had played with for a week... with wippie they wouldn't have lost to Nuturn. Now I still think Fnatic would beat them after V1 would lose in the upper bracket final but that would mean V1 would place 3rd with wippie. Just consider that they were on match points for a few rounds on both maps with jammyz(who btw has always been a tier 2 NA player) and that with wippie, who is not only a better player and viper but he has been with V1 for months... Sen>FNC>V1>Liquid imo so NA top 2>EU top 2 imo
V1 didn't even make it to NA Masters and didn't qualify to any of the Stage 1 Challengers Main Events. Hell they even only barely qualified out of Stage 2 Challengers 1 to go to the Challengers Finals, where they once again did a lower bracket run like they did in Stage Challengers 1. So if you say that Liquid and Fnatic aren't the best teams from EU, then it is even easier to argue that V1 isn't one of NA's top teams. Fnatic clearly is EU's top team and saying otherwise would just make EU look worse. FPX hasn't won a big event(First Strike, Masters and even the EMEA Challengers Playoffs), Acend just lost to Vitality... G2 well we all have seen what G2 has done recently so unless their roster changes save them, then they aren't in the picture, Heretics' roster is falling apart and teams like Guild, NiP, Alliance and BDS are good but definitely not top 2 for EU. Saying that EU didn't have their best teams is a BS excuse considering Fnatic and Liquid are 100% in the top 3 at least and the only team you could say is better than either of them is FPX(even though Liquid beat FPX and Fnatic looks like the clear #1 team in EU).
Yeah they definitely aren't by far the best as seen by the Fnatic game but they are the best.
I will not tolerate Fnatic hate. Bruh they are at the first international Valorant lan and they're having a good time and playing well. Let these EU kids talk all they want but the Fnatic guys are so chill
I mean Steel does the same kind of shit as dapr and zombs and idk why you mentioned HiKo lol
The 3 you mentioned just banter but TenZ is the one known to be toxic to his teammates and Shahz is hated by many pro CS and former CS pros that are in Val for various reasons.
Oh so Fnatic has been consistently competitive against them because of 1 game? TSM during the ignition series, 100T around the time of First Strike and NV and FaZe during Challengers were all very competitive against Sen and some of those teams beat Sen(not to mention LG and IMT who both beat Sen at least twice iirc)
How cause the #1 KR team got demolished map 1 and then won in 2 OTs against the #2 NA team? Both NA teams beat both EU teams so the only thing "proven" is that NA>EU
Dude the phantom is much easier to use and 1 tapping people takes skill so idk why you're saying this, either way have a good day and I hope you enjoy the games today
so basically you are saying that he has great aim, positioning and he uses guns that give him the best advantage... there's nothing wrong with being smart. If you can buy a marshall or judge to give yourself and your team an advantage in a pro game, then why wouldn't you do it. In pro games the goal is obviously to win so if you can help your team win by buying those guns, then you are just being smart...
Other than the Aussie one(#40), I think they are all pretty good except for when you said China should get 2 slots(same as JP) for the Asian quals when they don't really have any teams to look out for
Bro have you watched like any valorant? The best Australian team, Soniqs, are probably the 3rd best tier 2 NA team who just have no chance against most of the tier 1 NA teams and get shit on by RNG all the time. Yeah Sharks didn't do good at Masters but they did 2x better than what any Aussie team would do. I mean Soniqs literally just lost to fucking Teal Seam... They would have no chance at an International LAN. Since Berlin will have 16 teams I feel like BR should still get 2 teams, especially because I think Sharks aren't a top 2 team in BR and that they really just had a good tournament and that BR can field much better teams following their roster mania. Aussies shouldn't even be given a slot for NA challengers, since once again, the best Aussie team has shown that they are a tier 2 team in NA so idk why they should be given a slot in the quals just because they are from a different continent...
"he always looks for fights from positions he has the biggest advantage from"... so basically you're just saying he's has amazing positioning which is a part of being a good player...
"Also he couldn't make C9 win important Games" there's a reason why all of his teammates from C9 except for mitch got dropped and why no one has picked any of them up except for Vice. All of his teammates were just mediocre but yet C9 was placing top 3 in many events.
I mean you can't deny that TenZ has incredible aim, you just said his positioning is immaculate to the point where he always gives himself an advantage and you're calling him a coward meaning that he isn't being over aggressive which was his biggest issue.
I mean it was at the time... FaZe was dominating everyone and V1 lost to them twice before this and then finally pulled out a W
I mean tbf no baseball, basketball or football teams outside of NA could even compete with MLB, NBA or NFL teams and FalleN and Cold most certainly do not have more titles than NA in all of eSports unless you're only counting like CS and LOL. As for Cold and FalleN, I doubt they'll ever switch over but I could see other BR cs players like TACO and fer switching over
Ofc it's easier in hindsight to say this but going in, we didn't really know how he regions compared and it was really anyone's best guess. Also just a reminder that the event is not actually over btw. Sen has done multiple lower bracket runs in NA just like how any of these teams in the lower bracket could go on a run.
And? We're talking about Coldzera and FalleN not FaZe and Liquid... FaZe is garbage rn but Liquid has been pretty good recently and Cold has been great recently and FalleN is still very good
Liquid losing as a team to Extra Sal(which is a good team on the rise) doesn't mean FalleN is trash and clearly you haven't been watching any Liquid or FaZe games if you think either of them are bots and will be switching over to Valorant any time soon. But then again you're just a troll so it's whatever
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