Imagine winning every upper match and loosing bc you had a bad day man that sucks. I feel so sorry for M3C
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geometrix [#3]They had a good run for a freaking UNSIGNED team.
edit: #16 where the fuck did I say their skill went away?
This ^^^
Pumsyslayer [#6]Not a bad day. Their own stupidity cost them the match. What was the point in bringing a new player in the finals and on the potentially last map?
lol purpo wasnt the problem.
geometrix [#3]They had a good run for a freaking UNSIGNED team.
edit: #16 where the fuck did I say their skill went away?
This is a braindead take.Your skill doesn’t go away just because you’re unsigned. On the contrary, they should’ve been extra motivated because getting in Champs would’ve meant skins money just for themselves.
katsu_vlr [#10]I believe upper bracket gets 2 maps so they essentially pick which maps gets played in a Bo5
not sure if its a VLR error but it shows they both had map bans..weird
Victorie [#16]This is a braindead take.Your skill doesn’t go away just because you’re unsigned. On the contrary, they should’ve been extra motivated because getting in Champs would’ve meant skins money just for themselves.
bold of you to assume how the players are feeling, 2022 has been a tough year for all of the m3c boys. not having an org to back you, not being able to bootcamp appropriately, fully out of their comfort zone, etc - the mental effect this would of had on the players is incredibly apparent and faltered their performance. sure they're motivated but motivation isn't always gonna overcome these sorts of problems.
TheHardStuckImmortal [#13]lol purpo wasnt the problem.
Did we watch the same match ? It isn't even purpo's fault, M3C fucked themselves by bringing him to play the deciding map well what did they expect ? If they wanted to play with him atleast play the whole bo5 with him or should have played with him in a previous match.
Yicko [#17]not sure if its a VLR error but it shows they both had map bans..weird
nah, for some reason EMEA is the only region who doesn't give the upper bracket team both map bans. m3c banned haven and liquid banned fracture
zyzyck [#18]bold of you to assume how the players are feeling, 2022 has been a tough year for all of the m3c boys. not having an org to back you, not being able to bootcamp appropriately, fully out of their comfort zone, etc - the mental effect this would of had on the players is incredibly apparent and faltered their performance. sure they're motivated but motivation isn't always gonna overcome these sorts of problems.
You’re the one making the assumptions here buddy, trying to psychoanalyze the players. All i’m saying is that they had a big motivation point to get to Champs.
Victorie [#16]This is a braindead take.Your skill doesn’t go away just because you’re unsigned. On the contrary, they should’ve been extra motivated because getting in Champs would’ve meant skins money just for themselves.
Skills don't go away because they're unsigned, sure, but they've gone through a lot. I mean, a LOT.
However, they aren't getting shit for playing. I bet everything they do is out of pocket, they have a shit ton to worry about.
#18 says it well.
zyzyck [#18]bold of you to assume how the players are feeling, 2022 has been a tough year for all of the m3c boys. not having an org to back you, not being able to bootcamp appropriately, fully out of their comfort zone, etc - the mental effect this would of had on the players is incredibly apparent and faltered their performance. sure they're motivated but motivation isn't always gonna overcome these sorts of problems.
How do u know about their mental ? U are ASSUMING these things.
Victorie [#22]You’re the one making the assumptions here buddy, trying to psychoanalyze the players. All i’m saying is that they had a big motivation point to get to Champs.
im repeating things the players have said themselves lmfao, not really an assumption when its an obvious bad effect
Pumsyslayer [#24]How do u know about their mental ? U are ASSUMING these things.
im quoting things the players have said themselves? you can easily find everything i have mentioned in their own tweets or interviews
geometrix [#23]Skills don't go away because they're unsigned, sure, but they've gone through a lot. I mean, a LOT.
However, they aren't getting shit for playing. I bet everything they do is out of pocket, they have a shit ton to worry about.
#18 says it well.
How are you this dumb? I’m talking about the champions bundle you denser. You know that thing that gets split between all teams and the org takes a huge part of? That is live changing money if you don’t have to split it with an org. Maybe think before you type.
Victorie [#28]How are you this dumb? I’m talking about the champions bundle you denser. You know that thing that gets split between all teams and the org takes a huge part of? That is live changing money if you don’t have to split it with an org. Maybe think before you type.
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Victorie [#28]How are you this dumb? I’m talking about the champions bundle you denser. You know that thing that gets split between all teams and the org takes a huge part of? That is live changing money if you don’t have to split it with an org. Maybe think before you type.
by the way, where tf did I say their skill went away?
zyzyck [#25]im repeating things the players have said themselves lmfao, not really an assumption when its an obvious bad effect
You’re parroting things from 4 months ago when they qualified for Iceland but couldn’t go because of the russian situation. Instead of trying to find them excuses maybe give me some proof where they said their mental is in a bad state in the last month.
geometrix [#32]by the way, where tf did I say their skill went away?
Bro what? He’s not questioning you about skill. His reply completely went over your head just let this one slide
zyzyck [#21]nah, for some reason EMEA is the only region who doesn't give the upper bracket team both map bans. m3c banned haven and liquid banned fracture
yep then thats stupid, m3c gets no advantage for coming from uppers
Victorie [#16]This is a braindead take.Your skill doesn’t go away just because you’re unsigned. On the contrary, they should’ve been extra motivated because getting in Champs would’ve meant skins money just for themselves.
Your take is braindead.
Having an org is a huge buff, you have better pracc and facilities for bootcamp, better team infrastructure, from coaching staff, analysts, phycologist, etc.
Plus you don't have to worry about income because you have a monthly salary.
Those are huge factors for a team performance at high stakes
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Victorie [#33]You’re parroting things from 4 months ago when they qualified for Iceland but couldn’t go because of the russian situation. Instead of trying to find them excuses maybe give me some proof where they said their mental is in a bad state in the last month.
first off 4 months isn't going to solve those problems they were experiencing and im positive it still has lasting effects (maybe im wrong though!), chronicle's tweet (https://twitter.com/chronicleEZ/status/1558879869597089792) whilst i paraphrased it in my original reply, explains that they no had "sponsors, no comfort zone to train & compete with 50-60 ping against 5-15". sheydos' tweet (https://twitter.com/Sheydosk1ng/status/1558877894406971392) whilst not explicitly stating they was a bad mental obviously, unless you're blind, shows that this tournament had a toll on their/his mentals. you have to have no empathy at all if you're trying to argue the fact this whole situation isn't tough for them, i'm not arguing against liquid deserving this win im simply stating that it's quite obvious this year for them hasn't been great for them mentally. (Also they never qualified for iceland, that was fpx.)
Yicko [#35]yep then thats stupid, m3c gets no advantage for coming from uppers
its kinda scuffed but so was the whole tourny, liquid and g2 having to play two bo3s in one day was also stupid. just strange all round
ShyftNot1 [#8]hey, still top 4 in EMEA. so, for sure some org from the 10 or so that will get a franchising spot will pick them up. hopefully they stay as a team which would have been easier if they qualified for champs. but i'm sure that all 4 core players will find a new team.
Top 4 in EMEA = top 5 in the world (100T is the other 5th)
Victorie [#16]This is a braindead take.Your skill doesn’t go away just because you’re unsigned. On the contrary, they should’ve been extra motivated because getting in Champs would’ve meant skins money just for themselves.
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The thing is based on how M3C played today, if G2 won yesterday against Liquid, they'd have won against M3C as well and it's better to have Liquid in place of M3C than G2. (Even tho i'm a liquid fan and i'm happy, i know for a fact that m3c is still a stronger team when they play together and Liquid played so well today especially ScreaM and Jamppi)
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