Apac come

According to this article we would have at least one spot for each large community if lets say these rules are the same in apac.

So this confirms an org from thailand that means we could probably have 2 orgs from thailand one being xeria and one another one or maybe we will get only xerxia in leauge.

Ge will most probably also get the slot considering they are the last remaining SA org and viewrship in SA is just behind japan. And most probably SA will give valorant more views in the coming days due to ban.

Aside from one for each japan and kr what are the biggest communities in apac? Vietnam?

15 days viewership with LAN crowd>>>>>>>>>> 2 days SA viewership (cause all SA teams go 0-2)

meyournightmare [#2]

15 days viewership with LAN crowd>>>>>>>>>> 2 days SA viewership (cause all SA teams go 0-2)

It's a league mf, SA team would be there for the whole season (which would be atleast 2-3 month long), even if we don't make playoffs

1. JP - 112k, 292k (Average, Peak)
2. TH - 16k, 54k
3. KR - 14k, 38k
4. SA - 8k, 28k
5. PH - 7k, 26k
6. ID - 7k, 16k
7. MY/SG - 4k, 24k
8. VN - 2k, 8k
9. HK/TW - 1k, 4k
10. OCE - 723, 1.5k
11. CN - N/A

If you look at the viewership from stage 2 VCTs, the three largest regions in terms of viewership are currently are JP, TH, and KR. If I were Riot, these would be the three regions I'd try to prioritize as the 'biggest communities'. I think the best way Riot could split the slots is doing 6/6, half for KR/JP/CN and the other half for APAC/OCE/SA

Vietnam valorant is super dead. I don't think that EMEA big region system would work here, firstly because we don't have any huge viewership regions except for JP, SA and TH. So these 3 regions would be guaranteed a slot and other slots would be filled by orgs who satisfy riot's criteria, that's what I think

Sprouts [#4]

1. JP - 112k, 292k (Average, Peak)
2. TH - 16k, 54k
3. KR - 14k, 38k
4. SA - 8k, 28k
5. PH - 7k, 26k
6. ID - 7k, 16k
7. MY/SG - 4k, 24k
8. VN - 2k, 8k
9. HK/TW - 1k, 4k
10. OCE - 723, 1.5k
11. CN - N/A

If you look at the viewership from stage 2 VCTs, the three largest regions in terms of viewership are currently are JP, TH, and KR. If I were Riot, these would be the three regions I'd try to prioritize as the 'biggest communities'. I think the best way Riot could split the slots is doing 6/6, half for KR/JP/CN and the other half for APAC/OCE/SA

SA had like 70k peak in stage 1 but the TO and marketing for stage 2 was pretty bad that's why it reduced drastically. Sad

kidnamedfinger [#6]

SA had like 70k peak in stage 1 but the TO and marketing for stage 2 was pretty bad that's why it reduced drastically. Sad

makes sense, I was surprised at how low it was this stage

meyournightmare [#2]

15 days viewership with LAN crowd>>>>>>>>>> 2 days SA viewership (cause all SA teams go 0-2)

Where exactly is your crowd?

2K people max in a country known for FPS games.

Forget India, most Asian countries would fill stadiums like that within hours.

Even brazil got more tickets than Copenhagen.

Sprouts [#4]

1. JP - 112k, 292k (Average, Peak)
2. TH - 16k, 54k
3. KR - 14k, 38k
4. SA - 8k, 28k
5. PH - 7k, 26k
6. ID - 7k, 16k
7. MY/SG - 4k, 24k
8. VN - 2k, 8k
9. HK/TW - 1k, 4k
10. OCE - 723, 1.5k
11. CN - N/A

If you look at the viewership from stage 2 VCTs, the three largest regions in terms of viewership are currently are JP, TH, and KR. If I were Riot, these would be the three regions I'd try to prioritize as the 'biggest communities'. I think the best way Riot could split the slots is doing 6/6, half for KR/JP/CN and the other half for APAC/OCE/SA

A lot of Non-Korean people watch Korean games. I think some guy casting the KR VCT in English put out this fact but most of the viewers of the KR circuit are not Korean.
Heck, even Indian people watch Korean and NA circuits but not their own. The population factor is there but the local crowd is just disappointed by the performance of the teams.

Stage 1 had much more viewership.

Sprouts [#4]

1. JP - 112k, 292k (Average, Peak)
2. TH - 16k, 54k
3. KR - 14k, 38k
4. SA - 8k, 28k
5. PH - 7k, 26k
6. ID - 7k, 16k
7. MY/SG - 4k, 24k
8. VN - 2k, 8k
9. HK/TW - 1k, 4k
10. OCE - 723, 1.5k
11. CN - N/A

If you look at the viewership from stage 2 VCTs, the three largest regions in terms of viewership are currently are JP, TH, and KR. If I were Riot, these would be the three regions I'd try to prioritize as the 'biggest communities'. I think the best way Riot could split the slots is doing 6/6, half for KR/JP/CN and the other half for APAC/OCE/SA

KR , 14K and 28K?
? BRuh literally no one native watches the main val stream . KR stage finals had 7k viewers on the official KR channel and average was 3k.

JiangLi [#10]

KR , 14K and 28K?
? BRuh literally no one native watches the main val stream . KR stage finals had 7k viewers on the official KR channel and average was 3k.

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-korea-stage-2-challengers
you’re only looking at one stream

SnooTangerines [#8]

Where exactly is your crowd?

2K people max in a country known for FPS games.

Forget India, most Asian countries would fill stadiums like that within hours.

Even brazil got more tickets than Copenhagen.

all of those teams only lasts for 2 days lmao

meyournightmare [#12]

all of those teams only lasts for 2 days lmao

Actual braindead person?

I am talking about Brazil LCQ and as a comparison, tournaments in South Asia where South Asian/Brazillian teams play each other.

The viewers have to watch the entire tournament my man.

SnooTangerines [#13]

Actual braindead person?

I am talking about Brazil LCQ and as a comparison, tournaments in South Asia where South Asian/Brazillian teams play each other.

The viewers have to watch the entire tournament my man.

" tournaments in South Asia where South Asian/Brazillian teams play each other"

Sprouts [#11]

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-korea-stage-2-challengers
you’re only looking at one stream

So you are saying the VCT kr twitch + VCT kr YT had 37k peak viewers?

kidnamedfinger [#5]

Vietnam valorant is super dead. I don't think that EMEA big region system would work here, firstly because we don't have any huge viewership regions except for JP, SA and TH. So these 3 regions would be guaranteed a slot and other slots would be filled by orgs who satisfy riot's criteria, that's what I think

Vietnam has a large player base but few people are interested in the tournament

JiangLi [#15]

So you are saying the VCT kr twitch + VCT kr YT had 37k peak viewers?

Yes…? What do you want me to say, that the source is wrong?

kidnamedfinger [#5]

Vietnam valorant is super dead. I don't think that EMEA big region system would work here, firstly because we don't have any huge viewership regions except for JP, SA and TH. So these 3 regions would be guaranteed a slot and other slots would be filled by orgs who satisfy riot's criteria, that's what I think

I'm also not confident about the EMEA league system working well here in APC. People outside don't realize but people put too much national importance here unlike in EU. There are only 10-12 slots for apac and most likely 6 of them going to KR + JP. That leaves 6 for the literally the whole of APAC. Too many major countries and too less slots. Unfortunately they don't give a shit . Would be great if they bring VRL to countries so game alteast popular in T2.

JiangLi [#18]

I'm also not confident about the EMEA league system working well here in APC. People outside don't realize but people put too much national importance here unlike in EU. There are only 10-12 slots for apac and most likely 6 of them going to KR + JP. That leaves 6 for the literally the whole of APAC. Too many major countries and too less slots. Unfortunately they don't give a shit . Would be great if they bring VRL to countries so game alteast popular in T2.

agreed

Sprouts [#4]

1. JP - 112k, 292k (Average, Peak)
2. TH - 16k, 54k
3. KR - 14k, 38k
4. SA - 8k, 28k
5. PH - 7k, 26k
6. ID - 7k, 16k
7. MY/SG - 4k, 24k
8. VN - 2k, 8k
9. HK/TW - 1k, 4k
10. OCE - 723, 1.5k
11. CN - N/A

If you look at the viewership from stage 2 VCTs, the three largest regions in terms of viewership are currently are JP, TH, and KR. If I were Riot, these would be the three regions I'd try to prioritize as the 'biggest communities'. I think the best way Riot could split the slots is doing 6/6, half for KR/JP/CN and the other half for APAC/OCE/SA

SA viewership was this low, where did you get the data from ?

Sprouts [#17]

Yes…? What do you want me to say, that the source is wrong?

Source is not wrong at all but out of that 37 k viewers 22k+ was from the Official Valorant channel . Rest was from Official KR channels . So the list you put is not accurate . IF OCE and SG/MY was streamed on the main one it would also put them to up like 4th spot but these 2 regions the least viewed easily along with HK/TW.

JiangLi [#21]

Source is not wrong at all but out of that 37 k viewers 22k+ was from the Official Valorant channel . Rest was from Official KR channels . So the list you put is not accurate . IF OCE and SG/MY was streamed on the main one it would also put them to up like 4th spot but these 2 regions the least viewed easily along with HK/TW.

OCE matches are streamed on the main channel too

Shashwat_Singh [#22]

OCE matches are streamed on the main channel too

There is only 1 main 'Valorant' channel . Rest are Valesports 1 ,2 , 3 which is not called the main channel . There is difference.

Shashwat_Singh [#20]

SA viewership was this low, where did you get the data from ?

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/skyesports-championship-series

JiangLi [#21]

Source is not wrong at all but out of that 37 k viewers 22k+ was from the Official Valorant channel . Rest was from Official KR channels . So the list you put is not accurate . IF OCE and SG/MY was streamed on the main one it would also put them to up like 4th spot but these 2 regions the least viewed easily along with HK/TW.

I don’t think that’s really true. Sure those regions would get a bit of a boost but a lot of viewers come specifically to watch KR Valorant. I don’t think OCE or SG/MY would attract as many foreigners.

meyournightmare [#2]

15 days viewership with LAN crowd>>>>>>>>>> 2 days SA viewership (cause all SA teams go 0-2)

get a life bot

hazard25 [#26]

get a life bot

sure 0-2 region

Sprouts [#7]

makes sense, I was surprised at how low it was this stage

ya the TO was busy hosting streamer showdown and got good matches timing fucked like some matches went till 3am in a LAN event

Sprouts [#7]

makes sense, I was surprised at how low it was this stage

also no watchparties were allowed by TO (skyesports) , fking retarded TO

meyournightmare [#27]

sure 0-2 region

lmao i am not even from india , i am from malaysia , lil anjing

hazard25 [#30]

lmao i am not even from india , i am from malaysia , lil anjing

damn got owned on bind

Sprouts [#25]

I don’t think that’s really true. Sure those regions would get a bit of a boost but a lot of viewers come specifically to watch KR Valorant. I don’t think OCE or SG/MY would attract as many foreigners.

That's what you think . SG/MY has the same average viewers as KR in their channels which is around 3-4k so what's to say it wont attract that many viewers on the main one ? And even if they did boost only a lil bit i still wont count them because OP is talking about large regional communities in APAC and not foreigners watching and boosting those numbers.

meyournightmare [#31]

damn got owned on bind

All this nonsense talk and you weren’t an FPX fan before last weekend. Good luck bandwagoner

JiangLi [#23]

There is only 1 main 'Valorant' channel . Rest are Valesports 1 ,2 , 3 which is not called the main channel . There is difference.

Not on twitch talking about youtube

Blazieboy [#33]

All this nonsense talk and you weren’t an FPX fan before last weekend. Good luck bandwagoner

EMEA owns your whole region no matter which team FNC may have lost both maps but on a rematch they will defeat PRX 2-0
+no team region fan + SEN flair LMFAO

kidnamedfinger [#6]

SA had like 70k peak in stage 1 but the TO and marketing for stage 2 was pretty bad that's why it reduced drastically. Sad

Yeah I also think it was change in TO that leaded to downfall of the viewers like vcc was named just for nodwin and scs was named for skyesports so people were already confused and many were asking when will vcc 3 come pair with poor marketing most people didnt knew about scs but what leaves me questioning although its not viewership but we still got 1 million views in vlt vs ge and I think this is like the only stream in yt (valo)from aisa which got 1 million views (not talking about viewership) , leave vcc1 I think we were geting 64k+ viewrship (indian watchparties + nodwin) during vlt vs fs. Personally indian can alone pull 100k viership if our teams starts winning in apac but Idk when will it happen xD

SKara [#36]

Yeah I also think it was change in TO that leaded to downfall of the viewers like vcc was named just for nodwin and scs was named for skyesports so people were already confused and many were asking when will vcc 3 come pair with poor marketing most people didnt knew about scs but what leaves me questioning although its not viewership but we still got 1 million views in vlt vs ge and I think this is like the only stream in yt (valo)from aisa which got 1 million views (not talking about viewership) , leave vcc1 I think we were geting 64k+ viewrship (indian watchparties + nodwin) during vlt vs fs. Personally indian can alone pull 100k viership if our teams starts winning in apac but Idk when will it happen xD

Skyesports is notorious for view botting lol, the shit anthem that they released had 40k views in 4 days and 400k in 5 days with less than 10k likes. Their sponsor rooter is also known for heavy viewbotting. That VLT GE game probably got like 400k organic views AT MAX.

JiangLi [#18]

I'm also not confident about the EMEA league system working well here in APC. People outside don't realize but people put too much national importance here unlike in EU. There are only 10-12 slots for apac and most likely 6 of them going to KR + JP. That leaves 6 for the literally the whole of APAC. Too many major countries and too less slots. Unfortunately they don't give a shit . Would be great if they bring VRL to countries so game alteast popular in T2.

Agreed, some south asian T2 org owners have said that riot has good plans but we can just be hopeful

meyournightmare [#2]

15 days viewership with LAN crowd>>>>>>>>>> 2 days SA viewership (cause all SA teams go 0-2)

guys just igrone this meyournightmare guy, this guy is a baiter he uses a fake flag and toxic to asian to attract attention, whenever he says anything just ignore it . there's no point talking to him

SleepyBear [#39]

guys just igrone this meyournightmare guy, this guy is a baiter he uses a fake flag and toxic to asian to attract attention, whenever he says anything just ignore it . there's no point talking to him

its 2050 and this guy still trying to figure out "cAn GODPLUSPHOENIX Win a mAp aGaiNSt pAPeR ReKt?"

Sprouts [#4]

1. JP - 112k, 292k (Average, Peak)
2. TH - 16k, 54k
3. KR - 14k, 38k
4. SA - 8k, 28k
5. PH - 7k, 26k
6. ID - 7k, 16k
7. MY/SG - 4k, 24k
8. VN - 2k, 8k
9. HK/TW - 1k, 4k
10. OCE - 723, 1.5k
11. CN - N/A

If you look at the viewership from stage 2 VCTs, the three largest regions in terms of viewership are currently are JP, TH, and KR. If I were Riot, these would be the three regions I'd try to prioritize as the 'biggest communities'. I think the best way Riot could split the slots is doing 6/6, half for KR/JP/CN and the other half for APAC/OCE/SA

sheshh Japan viewers are huge

Sprouts [#25]

I don’t think that’s really true. Sure those regions would get a bit of a boost but a lot of viewers come specifically to watch KR Valorant. I don’t think OCE or SG/MY would attract as many foreigners.

if a paper rex vs bleed GF match was to be broadcasted on the main channel it would easily topple 22k peak viewers. It's a bit unfair to count numbers on the main stream if other regions don't get the same opportunity of being on it.

Sprouts [#4]

1. JP - 112k, 292k (Average, Peak)
2. TH - 16k, 54k
3. KR - 14k, 38k
4. SA - 8k, 28k
5. PH - 7k, 26k
6. ID - 7k, 16k
7. MY/SG - 4k, 24k
8. VN - 2k, 8k
9. HK/TW - 1k, 4k
10. OCE - 723, 1.5k
11. CN - N/A

If you look at the viewership from stage 2 VCTs, the three largest regions in terms of viewership are currently are JP, TH, and KR. If I were Riot, these would be the three regions I'd try to prioritize as the 'biggest communities'. I think the best way Riot could split the slots is doing 6/6, half for KR/JP/CN and the other half for APAC/OCE/SA

Eschart's coverage of APAC has been pretty atrocious tbh

I remember the FS v VLT game way back in stage 1 hitting at least 150k but the site had it at like 60

indo mostly 30-50k, bcs many viewer from indo watch from their streamer

JiangLi [#32]

That's what you think . SG/MY has the same average viewers as KR in their channels which is around 3-4k so what's to say it wont attract that many viewers on the main one ? And even if they did boost only a lil bit i still wont count them because OP is talking about large regional communities in APAC and not foreigners watching and boosting those numbers.

godbless

KoreanOverlord [#45]

godbless

??

yamigamidark [#44]

indo mostly 30-50k, bcs many viewer from indo watch from their streamer

definitely not that high lol

Sprouts [#4]

1. JP - 112k, 292k (Average, Peak)
2. TH - 16k, 54k
3. KR - 14k, 38k
4. SA - 8k, 28k
5. PH - 7k, 26k
6. ID - 7k, 16k
7. MY/SG - 4k, 24k
8. VN - 2k, 8k
9. HK/TW - 1k, 4k
10. OCE - 723, 1.5k
11. CN - N/A

If you look at the viewership from stage 2 VCTs, the three largest regions in terms of viewership are currently are JP, TH, and KR. If I were Riot, these would be the three regions I'd try to prioritize as the 'biggest communities'. I think the best way Riot could split the slots is doing 6/6, half for KR/JP/CN and the other half for APAC/OCE/SA

oh yeah one more thing, ID, PH, MY/SG matches are still sub region matches to qualify for APAC, this especially won't garner as much attraction as it's way less important compared to KR as their circuit will instantly qualify for the international lan as more people especially foreigners would be interested. This on top of ID, TH, HKTW, VN, SA don't even have english streams says a lot abt unfairness of the data, this is comparing a qualifier to masters and a qualifier to a qualifier to masters. I was especially surprised about the SA numbers but after realizing that it's sub region matches it makes a lot of sense as a lot of SEA and SA countries like to watch their country teams vs others cause of national pride.

yamigamidark [#44]

indo mostly 30-50k, bcs many viewer from indo watch from their streamer

27k max