- EMEA
- NA
- LATAM
- APAC
- BR
- JP
- KR
Now, people will ask why I put APAC 4th, simply because as a region the only notable team is PRX, since Xerxia has been doing quite shit this year, while NA and LATAM both have at least 2 teams who managed to do something (Optic was 2nd seed both events, and yes, KRU had a shaky m1, but m2 was much better both for them, and LEV did quite good as well)
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61Hiko [#2]NA 2 teams, that managed to do something?
Guard 0-2
Guard 2.0 (xset lol) 0-2If ur talking about sentinels. that was like 10yrs ago. they are not relevant. We are in the present
Optic has always been 2nd seed, and the teams guard and xset lost to weren't bad teams at all
Giannero [#3]Optic has always been 2nd seed, and the teams guard and xset lost to weren't bad teams at all
they still lost? #1 seed. No games won
61Hiko [#4]they still lost? #1 seed. No games won
Still, the fact that there was a second seed who did better, makes the region better overall, xerxia won a single match by fluke, amd did so fucking bad this masters it's embarassing only to think about. As a whole, apac did worse than NA up until now, and if we count teams that didn't qualify as well, apac is quite shit
meyournightmare [#5]
- EMEA (all teams can win)
- APAC (one team region defeated NA top team)
- NA ( one team region)
- LATAM (two team region)
- KR (cursed team)
- BR
- JP(NTH) dont tell me ZETA could have done this could have done that
"Cursed team" never heard something more bullshit than this. DRX simply is not as good as people make them to be. KR is without a doubt the worst region in valorant as of now, since the only team that wins over there, never did anything special, with top 6 being their best, every other region has had at least omce, a better placement
trola [#7]You really put NA the real one team region at 2022 #2 but APAC at #4 with "one team region" reason? you gotta be kidding
Just look at what I said to the other guy
meyournightmare [#5]
- EMEA (all teams can win)
- APAC (one team region defeated NA top team)
- NA ( one team region)
- LATAM (two team region)
- KR (cursed team)
- BR
- JP(NTH) dont tell me ZETA could have done this could have done that
This is a good one
Giannero [#8]"Cursed team" never heard something more bullshit than this. DRX simply is not as good as people make them to be. KR is without a doubt the worst region in valorant as of now, since the only team that wins over there, never did anything special, with top 6 being their best, every other region has had at least omce, a better placement
DRX is massively overhyped agreed. I don't get why people are saying they're so insane.
Giannero [#8]"Cursed team" never heard something more bullshit than this. DRX simply is not as good as people make them to be. KR is without a doubt the worst region in valorant as of now, since the only team that wins over there, never did anything special, with top 6 being their best, every other region has had at least omce, a better placement
NU got 3rd? Also I genuinely want to see what bullshit you are going to make up to tell me that JP are currently a better region
Sprouts [#12]NU got 3rd? Also I genuinely want to see what bullshit you are going to make up to tell me that JP are currently a better region
Oh fuck, forgot about NU, bullshit about JP being better? Not bullshit, just facts. JP got better results thus year, won against DRX last masters, and actually has more than 1 contender to the international stage. While KR only has 1 team who ends up being dominated, at least ZETA did a really good run last masters, and even ended up not qualifying for this masters, KR teams on the other hand, get all dominated by DRX, which eventually gets dominated itself
Giannero [#8]"Cursed team" never heard something more bullshit than this. DRX simply is not as good as people make them to be. KR is without a doubt the worst region in valorant as of now, since the only team that wins over there, never did anything special, with top 6 being their best, every other region has had at least omce, a better placement
then tell me why they cant win in lower bracket?
meyournightmare [#14]then tell me why they cant win in lower bracket?
Because they're bad and they lose, simple
Giannero [#13]Oh fuck, forgot about NU, bullshit about JP being better? Not bullshit, just facts. JP got better results thus year, won against DRX last masters, and actually has more than 1 contender to the international stage. While KR only has 1 team who ends up being dominated, at least ZETA did a really good run last masters, and even ended up not qualifying for this masters, KR teams on the other hand, get all dominated by DRX, which eventually gets dominated itself
NTH couldn't even get 10 rounds against DRX, you call that a good team? Even Damwon did better than that. And Zeta lost to that...
Giannero [#6]Still, the fact that there was a second seed who did better, makes the region better overall, xerxia won a single match by fluke, amd did so fucking bad this masters it's embarassing only to think about. As a whole, apac did worse than NA up until now, and if we count teams that didn't qualify as well, apac is quite shit
I'm with u, that NA still did more with optic alone.
But only with optic alone
The rest didn't do anything.
Don't give credit to teams, that don't deserve it. They got #1 seed in NA wow, who cares. They both went 0-2 directly in playoffs
Giannero [#6]Still, the fact that there was a second seed who did better, makes the region better overall, xerxia won a single match by fluke, amd did so fucking bad this masters it's embarassing only to think about. As a whole, apac did worse than NA up until now, and if we count teams that didn't qualify as well, apac is quite shit
NA is a one team region , its not even an argument atp
Giannero [#6]Still, the fact that there was a second seed who did better, makes the region better overall, xerxia won a single match by fluke, amd did so fucking bad this masters it's embarassing only to think about. As a whole, apac did worse than NA up until now, and if we count teams that didn't qualify as well, apac is quite shit
your reason didnt make sense at all, second seed did better then the region did better overall? the first seed is trash is the only explanation and their win in their region was a fluke. I cant believe you rate xset's region higher after watching their low quality trash game against leviatan.
Sprouts [#17]NTH couldn't even get 10 rounds against DRX, you call that a good team? Even Damwon did better than that. And Zeta lost to that...
You miss the whole point. The fact that there is any sort of competition is what makes the region better. And if you want to say that NTH did shit, ok, you can say that, but ZETA did good before them, and did even better than KR (DRX), and after doing so, they didn't even end up qualifying, which means that yhere's actually competition for a top 3 masters team. While in KR, DRX alqays dominates, but ends up being dominated themselves, there's just no competition because apart from them (which aren't that good anyways) all the other teams are really on a low level
meyournightmare [#16]then how they defeated NTH,LEVIATAN, PRX ?
NTH did quite bad, they didn't win against prime PRX (current one) and the LEV game is the one that actually counts, even tho it was a really close game (both teams dominated on 1 map, and last was 11-13), but after that they faced actually good teams, and it was over for them. There's no curses, DRX isn't simply good enough
kapteN [#11]DRX is massively overhyped agreed. I don't get why people are saying they're so insane.
Overhyped by fake flaggers yes, are they bad? NO
Its not like they are the worst team that just bomb out of the touney lol, getting top 6 consistently in every tourney (sure champions was a group bombout) is not even bad, that's like better than 50% of the teams playing.
Giannero [#21]You miss the whole point. The fact that there is any sort of competition is what makes the region better. And if you want to say that NTH did shit, ok, you can say that, but ZETA did good before them, and did even better than KR (DRX), and after doing so, they didn't even end up qualifying, which means that yhere's actually competition for a top 3 masters team. While in KR, DRX alqays dominates, but ends up being dominated themselves, there's just no competition because apart from them (which aren't that good anyways) all the other teams are really on a low level
DK and ONS look like they are on a low level because DRX is genuinely a tier above them. However, DRX also happens to be a tier above NTH, which at the moment is Japan's best team. Does competition really matter when the best teams you're sending are the likes of CR and NTH?
trola [#20]your reason didnt make sense at all, second seed did better then the region did better overall? the first seed is trash is the only explanation and their win in their region was a fluke. I cant believe you rate xset's region higher after watching their low quality trash game against leviatan.
You fail to see the point. The fact that there at least is some sort of competion internally is what makes the level of a region higher, you can argue than at the end one of the 2 teams ended up being trash, which would actually be true, but apart from EMEA, which region sent 2 teams who both ended up doing something? APAC sent PRX and XIA, PRX did good, XIA won a fluke game and that's it, they always lost after that. LATAM sent KRU and LEV, KRU as well only won 1 game, but LEV managed to get a top 6. NA had first seeds going out 0-2, true, but at least remember who they lost to, both had to face optic in the first match up, and Guard ended up facing PRX which ended 4th in the tournament, while XSET had to play LEV, who had a close game with fnatic who only lost to the 2 finalists of the tournament. And don't even let me bring up the average level of team who didn't qualify from those regions, which yes, wpuld mostly be speculation, but at least would get a bit more insight on that
Sprouts [#24]DK and ONS look like they are on a low level because DRX is genuinely a tier above them. However, DRX also happens to be a tier above NTH, which at the moment is Japan's best team. Does competition really matter when the best teams you're sending are the likes of CR and NTH?
You're saying that based on pure speculation, all we know is that JP did better than KR this year, and that teams there actually all have a chance to reach the big stages. Until the other korean teams beat the japanese ones in lcq, saying that KR is a better region overall, is purely delusional
Giannero [#25]You fail to see the point. The fact that there at least is some sort of competion internally is what makes the level of a region higher, you can argue than at the end one of the 2 teams ended up being trash, which would actually be true, but apart from EMEA, which region sent 2 teams who both ended up doing something? APAC sent PRX and XIA, PRX did good, XIA won a fluke game and that's it, they always lost after that. LATAM sent KRU and LEV, KRU as well only won 1 game, but LEV managed to get a top 6. NA had first seeds going out 0-2, true, but at least remember who they lost to, both had to face optic in the first match up, and Guard ended up facing PRX which ended 4th in the tournament, while XSET had to play LEV, who had a close game with fnatic who only lost to the 2 finalists of the tournament. And don't even let me bring up the average level of team who didn't qualify from those regions, which yes, wpuld mostly be speculation, but at least would get a bit more insight on that
And don't even let me bring up the average level of team who didn't qualify from those regions
do it. are you really going argue that teams like guard and 100t are significantly better than secret and onic? all four are dogshit compared to prx or optic.
how can you know whether TGRD or XSET would make it out of the groups Xerxia were in?
Giannero [#22]NTH did quite bad, they didn't win against prime PRX (current one) and the LEV game is the one that actually counts, even tho it was a really close game (both teams dominated on 1 map, and last was 11-13), but after that they faced actually good teams, and it was over for them. There's no curses, DRX isn't simply good enough
Why is Latam above like any of the teams considering that they have little accomplishments this year, a sixth and one win in groups. JP had a 3rd place and one win in groups. BR had a 2nd place and a win in groups. APAC had a second place and one win in groups. KR had two 5/6ths. What did Latam do to merit 3rd?
queueK [#27]And don't even let me bring up the average level of team who didn't qualify from those regions
do it. are you really going argue that teams like guard and 100t are significantly better than secret and onic? all four are dogshit compared to prx or optic.
how can you know whether TGRD or XSET would make it out of the groups Xerxia were in?
And there you go with "what if". Did it happen? No. We can only judge based on what we saw, and we saw, that XIA got destroyed ever since their fluke win against optic (got beaten in the rematch), and that XSET and Guard lost the other team from their same region, and then had to face significantly better teams. And yes, teams like FAZE or NRG could realistically be way better than onic or secret, but again, it would mostly be based on speculation, so it's not really a fair point
Giannero [#29]And there you go with "what if". Did it happen? No. We can only judge based on what we saw, and we saw, that XIA got destroyed ever since their fluke win against optic (got beaten in the rematch), and that XSET and Guard lost the other team from their same region, and then had to face significantly better teams. And yes, teams like FAZE or NRG could realistically be way better than onic or secret, but again, it would mostly be based on speculation, so it's not really a fair point
i just don't think you can say one 0-2 team is better than the other on the basis of the teams that beat them.
especially when the two teams didn't get the chance to face equally skilled opponents.
Giannero [#26]You're saying that based on pure speculation, all we know is that JP did better than KR this year, and that teams there actually all have a chance to reach the big stages. Until the other korean teams beat the japanese ones in lcq, saying that KR is a better region overall, is purely delusional
You're purely speculating as well. We have no clue how KR stacks up against JP until they played in the LCQ like you said, but you're judging the whole region off of one team? Saying JP did better than KR just because they placed higher in one event is dumb, does that mean BR are better than LATAM cause they also did better in Reykjavik? Literally contradicting your own list.
Noises [#28]Why is Latam above like any of the teams considering that they have little accomplishments this year, a sixth and one win in groups. JP had a 3rd place and one win in groups. BR had a 2nd place and a win in groups. APAC had a second place and one win in groups. KR had two 5/6ths. What did Latam do to merit 3rd?
Latam might be a little biased since we at least got to see 2 LATAM teams at the same event, but simply because, after KRU qualified for masters 1 and did not so good, a different team overcame them and did way better, while DRX was still DRX and still got top 6 (which LEV got as well), BR was still LOUD and after they got top 2, they still destroyed everything in their region, byt ended up dead last, JP got top 3 last masters, and got top 12 now
Sprouts [#31]You're purely speculating as well. We have no clue how KR stacks up against JP until they played in the LCQ like you said, but you're judging the whole region off of one team? Saying JP did better than KR just because they placed higher in one event is dumb, does that mean BR are better than LATAM cause they also did better in Reykjavik? Literally contradicting your own list.
And that's where you're wrong. KR can only be judged by looking at a single team, because that's all we've gotten, and what we can see is that the overall level of the region is always the same since DRX still dominates everyone the same way the did before. While at least JP has more than 1 team that can make it against a team who made top 3 last event. You might say that BR is worse than KR, and there you might be right
queueK [#30]i just don't think you can say one 0-2 team is better than the other on the basis of the teams that beat them.
especially when the two teams didn't get the chance to face equally skilled opponents.
That's all you get to compare them tho. Both guard and XSET had to play opponents that were in any aspect ahead of them, and didn't even do too bad against them. While XIA (best example I can think of), had a win against optic, which was probably a fluke tho, lost against liquid who shouldn't even have been there, and then lost to optic, this masters, they lost to fpx with seider, which wasn't even the shadow of fpx with suygetsu, and then lost to nth, 2 teams that were probably on their same level
Giannero [#32]Latam might be a little biased since we at least got to see 2 LATAM teams at the same event, but simply because, after KRU qualified for masters 1 and did not so good, a different team overcame them and did way better, while DRX was still DRX and still got top 6 (which LEV got as well), BR was still LOUD and after they got top 2, they still destroyed everything in their region, byt ended up dead last, JP got top 3 last masters, and got top 12 now
Ya, I can see Latam hype, but being a pessimist, you could chalk it up to a group stage bye. I also feel that the current bad results of the regions could be explained by just bad days. If Loud just beat KRU, they wouldn't need to fight the giant that is optic. For Zeta, they dominated their region until the grand finals
Giannero [#34]That's all you get to compare them tho. Both guard and XSET had to play opponents that were in any aspect ahead of them, and didn't even do too bad against them. While XIA (best example I can think of), had a win against optic, which was probably a fluke tho, lost against liquid who shouldn't even have been there, and then lost to optic, this masters, they lost to fpx with seider, which wasn't even the shadow of fpx with suygetsu, and then lost to nth, 2 teams that were probably on their same level
there's a lot more factors to compare between them! however, they'd all be subjective. I still think an opinion of the team's playstyles and skill has more value than using an objective metric that IMO doesn't really make sense.
this is full of bs.
apac is only PRX? bro they have xerxia, yes they ain't doing good in cph but so did kru. you said leviatan did quite good, while the fact xerxia been quite good as well before cph, just like leviatan in cph.
in reykjavik xerxia beat optic 2-0, and in champions they managed to beat VK and envy.
so it's clear that APAC>LATAM.
Giannero [#26]You're saying that based on pure speculation, all we know is that JP did better than KR this year, and that teams there actually all have a chance to reach the big stages. Until the other korean teams beat the japanese ones in lcq, saying that KR is a better region overall, is purely delusional
Except Zeta's run is the biggest example of a fluke there is in Valorant, Japan never achieved anything and is already back to getting grouped. Not to mention their run relied on beating teams like Fnatic who had 2 subs and Liquid who didn't even qualify
Giannero [#25]You fail to see the point. The fact that there at least is some sort of competion internally is what makes the level of a region higher, you can argue than at the end one of the 2 teams ended up being trash, which would actually be true, but apart from EMEA, which region sent 2 teams who both ended up doing something? APAC sent PRX and XIA, PRX did good, XIA won a fluke game and that's it, they always lost after that. LATAM sent KRU and LEV, KRU as well only won 1 game, but LEV managed to get a top 6. NA had first seeds going out 0-2, true, but at least remember who they lost to, both had to face optic in the first match up, and Guard ended up facing PRX which ended 4th in the tournament, while XSET had to play LEV, who had a close game with fnatic who only lost to the 2 finalists of the tournament. And don't even let me bring up the average level of team who didn't qualify from those regions, which yes, wpuld mostly be speculation, but at least would get a bit more insight on that
i concluded that you are just a salty fnatic fans, i forgot to check your flair
I agree, I think a region ranking isnt always about international success, its more about the in region competition within it. Good teams will thrive despite their region, because its more about discipline and playing a particular key idea. I think EMEA deserves number 1 considering it is still the place to bootcamp for a team like LOUD. When we talk about a region we talk about how good a region is internationally, but when a team is good they will do good despite where they come from. EMEA and NA still stand atop this list bc the level of competition inside the region is still extremely high.
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