fnatic vs leviatan

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idkbro

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1535754077 3:59:00, maybe I am retarded but wouldnt fnatic players be able to see Melser screen from that angle?

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you said it not me

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idkbro

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lmao, but seriously wouldnt enzo be able to see his screen?

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the angle is way too skewed

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idkbro

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go watch enzo reaction after his defuse to save fnatic, he can clearly see melser screen, I think you are just bad at angles lmao

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Its possible but I think it would be too far and skewed to depict anything.

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idkbro

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go watch enzo reaction after his defuse to save fnatic, I doubt it tbh, even if it was far away you could recognize what part of the map he is in

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Abydaby

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you do realise that when he supposedly "saw" his screen melser did move. that should make him get off the spike no?

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Shownu

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Do you understand how lighting and reflections work? When you try to see a screen from afar you cannot see anything unless you are close which Fnatic obviously isn't.

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idkbro

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go watch enzo reaction after his defuse to save fnatic

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joellogic

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i think you're projecting dude.
what about all his other clutches? also looking into another monitor while shooting?
perhaps one eye for each screen? gimme a break.

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idkbro

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what? I am not trying to talk shit about enzo, the fact that he can see melser screen if a huge competitive integrity issue, like fnatic is probably my fav team but the fact he can see melser screen even if its really far away is ridiculous

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joellogic

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the thing is, you're here almost starting a controversy man.
it sould be almost impossible for enzo to play and look at the other player monitor at the same time.
The distance and the angle ... he shouldn't be able to see jack shit man.

Go into 3:58:24. and look at that.
would you see someting from near that angle?

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idkbro

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go watch enzo reaction cam after he defused bomb to save fnatic, you can clearly see melser monitor, I am not trying to start controversy? I am just bringing this up because it needs to be brought up because its a huge issue, also wdym by it is impossible to play and look at the other player monitor? in both attack and deffense you are static doing nothing a lot of the time, enzo role on bind of defense is just play backsite a really passively he can just wait and see where lev are going by staring at melser monitor, same for attack, he can just check where melser is playing and that will tell them a lot about the setup

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joellogic

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Bro, do the following.
go into the round itself, and see the whole play second by second. then tell me if he ever turns his head to see something.
He should at least need to turn his head no?

you're crazy.

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idkbro

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you cant see his cam all the time, only when observer is on him so we cant see if he turns his head, I am not blaming enzo I am blaming riot for allowing this

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joellogic

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I still think you're completely wrong and trying to take merit away from an awesome feat by enzo.

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idkbro

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what? why are you so defensive? I am not trying to take merit away and fucking retard what dont you understand about the fact I am not talking about the clutch the series as a whole? Did I hurt your feelings saying your daddy enzo could be taking advantage of this?

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enzo won a 3v1 clutch but this setup is really fucked up, fnatic shouldn't be able to see anything

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Shownu

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Its not their fault Melser likes to show his screen to opponents

#14

idkbro

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maybe thats just the way he likes it? its just fucked there is a way opponents can see your monitor regardless of what angle your monitor is, very questionable stage layout imo

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symbols07

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lmfao , stfu he can just switch places with his teammates who has a normal monitor angle and go to the farthest place. and first of all there is no chance in hell this is possible that he can see his screen, what copium are you trying to find

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maybe he's too focused on playing the game to notice this issue that riot should've fixed? He's not even blaming fnatic and yall are hopping on his dick

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idkbro

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finally you understand, I am not saying its fnatic fault, its literally just riot and leviatan fault:

Leviatan is at fault for not having melser play in a different place
Riot is at fault for a bad layout of the stage where things like this can happen

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symbols07

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i am pretty sure riot checked about if the players can see each others screen

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idkbro

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go watch enzo reaction after the defuse to save fnatic, you can clearly see his monitor, and the camera is an even worse angle than enzo is

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Abydaby

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but his eyes were glued to his screen except for 1 moment. which could of been him looking at the map due to the reveal, but if not lets say he did see his screen, melser moved of that angle so he couldnt have known he was staying there based on the glance he moved theres nothing wrong with pointing it out but its highly unlikely (taking about the clutch not the series)

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idkbro

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I am not talking about the clutch tho, I am talking about taking advantage of it during the whole of the match

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Abydaby

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Ah i understand that

#22

idkbro

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you are retarded btw, try to use at least a bit of your little brainpower to understand what I am saying you fucking dog

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wohe

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it is very weird how open it is, but i'm 100% sure they cannot see anything from that far and with that angle and would doubt such a thing can go through like this they have a face cam on enzo

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joellogic

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Even if he could see something. he would at least need to turn his head.
wich he nerver does during the whole play.

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wohe

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yeah yeah, like even from a short distance to be able to understand anything u need to look at it for a solid time which is very hard
i think it's pretty much impossible, idk

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idkbro

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BRO? CAN YOU READ? I AM TALKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC PLAY BUT THE MATCH AS A WHOLE, OFC HE WONT BE ABLE TO TURN HIS HEAD WHILE HE IS IN AN INTENSE SITUATION BUT HE COULD DURING THE MATCH

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wohe

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do you think that no one else noticed ? they probably checked it

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idkbro

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I hope but even then what is the explanation for it? He can clearly see his monitor and with enough clarity to take advantage of it, so weird

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wohe

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that's why i'm saying they probably checked and saw that there's no problem from fnatic's side
like i'm saying because it is so obvious they probably checked if fnatic can get anything from that angle, but still don't forget it's mesler who wanted it like that

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joellogic

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in the whole play he never turns his head .
You're absolutely wrong.

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idkbro

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when did I say it is this specific play? I am talking the whole of the match

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wohe

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but why would mesler put it like that if he knew they can see? like it's very easy to understand that they check such things

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idkbro

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no idea, thats what I think is weird because from enzo webcam you could clearly see that he is able to see melser screen fairly well

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wohe

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yeah but it's next to impossible to be able to understand anything from it, and they probably checked it
it just seems very unlikely that they would be careless like that u know

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idkbro

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I think as long as you can see what general area of the map he is at its enough of an advantage

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wohe

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hmmmmm maybe idk man

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joellogic

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also, from that angle he would have to turn his head so much that for sure somebody would have noticed.

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idkbro

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I feel like he wouldnt even need to turn his head too much to see it tbh, would love if some1 from riot or leviatan/enzo could explain this, maybe melser didnt notice? idk

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joellogic

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hahahaha dude. I do i even bother with this.

have a nice day

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idkbro

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same, they probably checked it but its still surprising

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joellogic

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look into it well. he would haver to turn his head 90 degrees MINUMUM dude.

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idkbro

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no he wouldnt LOL

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joellogic

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yes he would dude

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