The First time we see LG vs TSM
Who do you guys got? What will you think the match score will be?
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262 194 | 21 8 13 | / 14 6 8 / | 3 1 2 | +7 +2 +5 | 163 114 | 33% 20% 41% | 4 0 4 | 5 2 3 | -1 -2 +1 | |||
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226 163 | 16 5 11 | / 12 6 6 / | 9 4 5 | +4 -1 +5 | 185 96 | 22% 22% 22% | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | +2 +1 +1 | |||
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207 75 | 17 11 6 | / 13 6 7 / | 4 2 2 | +4 +5 -1 | 139 52 | 50% 55% 44% | 1 1 0 | 1 0 1 | 0 +1 -1 | |||
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187 84 | 14 9 5 | / 17 8 9 / | 7 4 3 | -3 +1 -4 | 107 52 | 8% 3% 17% | 5 3 2 | 2 2 0 | +3 +1 +2 | |||
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141 99 | 11 6 5 | / 12 6 6 / | 4 3 1 | -1 0 -1 | 79 51 | 31% 25% 35% | 1 1 0 | 1 2 -1 | 0 -1 +1 |
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215 103 | 17 8 9 | / 15 9 6 / | 2 2 0 | +2 -1 +3 | 188 106 | 21% 30% 15% | 1 1 0 | 1 0 1 | 0 +1 -1 | |||
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213 118 | 16 7 9 | / 14 8 6 / | 5 3 2 | +2 -1 +3 | 181 115 | 26% 19% 32% | 3 1 2 | 3 1 2 | 0 0 0 | |||
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205 106 | 14 9 5 | / 18 9 9 / | 7 3 4 | -4 0 -4 | 185 84 | 31% 27% 35% | 3 2 1 | 2 1 1 | +1 +1 0 | |||
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183 89 | 13 7 6 | / 17 9 8 / | 4 1 3 | -4 -2 -2 | 109 59 | 14% 11% 17% | 1 1 0 | 4 1 3 | -3 0 -3 | |||
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125 51 | 8 6 2 | / 15 8 7 / | 9 4 5 | -7 -2 -5 | 82 40 | 21% 13% 31% | 1 0 1 | 3 1 2 | -2 -1 -1 |
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272 98 | 42 27 15 | / 27 14 13 / | 9 4 5 | +15 +13 +2 | 157 51 | 36% 38% 32% | 4 3 1 | 4 1 3 | 0 +2 -2 | |||
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250 154 | 37 16 21 | / 28 17 11 / | 9 4 5 | +9 -1 +10 | 161 92 | 26% 18% 33% | 8 3 5 | 6 3 3 | +2 0 +2 | |||
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238 123 | 35 19 16 | / 20 12 8 / | 14 6 8 | +15 +7 +8 | 170 75 | 21% 19% 22% | 3 2 1 | 0 0 0 | +3 +2 +1 | |||
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198 131 | 32 13 19 | / 26 16 10 / | 7 4 3 | +6 -3 +9 | 111 72 | 39% 29% 45% | 2 2 0 | 3 3 0 | -1 -1 0 | |||
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131 56 | 18 12 6 | / 29 16 13 / | 16 12 4 | -11 -4 -7 | 83 37 | 10% 7% 15% | 6 3 3 | 6 3 3 | 0 0 0 |
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238 126 | 33 16 17 | / 30 16 14 / | 6 3 3 | +3 0 +3 | 166 92 | 25% 29% 22% | 8 6 2 | 5 1 4 | +3 +5 -2 | |||
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202 134 | 24 11 13 | / 36 17 19 / | 15 6 9 | -12 -6 -6 | 163 94 | 23% 18% 25% | 4 2 2 | 5 3 2 | -1 -1 0 | |||
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190 123 | 26 10 16 | / 37 17 20 / | 8 1 7 | -11 -7 -4 | 124 84 | 25% 21% 27% | 4 1 3 | 5 1 4 | -1 0 -1 | |||
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336 123 | 25 16 9 | / 14 8 6 / | 5 2 3 | +11 +8 +3 | 177 49 | 29% 31% 24% | 3 2 1 | 3 1 2 | 0 +1 -1 | |||
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255 165 | 21 7 14 | / 14 10 4 / | 3 1 2 | +7 -3 +10 | 148 95 | 44% 31% 52% | 1 1 0 | 2 1 1 | -1 0 -1 | |||
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249 78 | 19 14 5 | / 8 6 2 / | 5 2 3 | +11 +8 +3 | 153 52 | 19% 18% 22% | 1 1 0 | 0 0 0 | +1 +1 0 | |||
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238 109 | 16 8 8 | / 14 11 3 / | 6 3 3 | +2 -3 +5 | 159 67 | 19% 17% 22% | 4 3 1 | 1 1 0 | +3 +2 +1 | |||
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74 26 | 4 3 1 | / 12 8 4 / | 9 8 1 | -8 -5 -3 | 57 20 | 13% 15% 10% | 1 0 1 | 4 1 3 | -3 -1 -2 |
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262 134 | 17 9 8 | / 16 8 8 / | 1 0 1 | +1 +1 0 | 150 67 | 25% 46% 13% | 5 5 0 | 2 0 2 | +3 +5 -2 | |||
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198 164 | 10 2 8 | / 18 8 10 / | 8 3 5 | -8 -6 -2 | 139 106 | 15% 6% 19% | 1 0 1 | 3 2 1 | -2 -2 0 | |||
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148 106 | 13 4 9 | / 14 6 8 / | 1 0 1 | -1 -2 +1 | 113 82 | 22% 57% 15% | 1 0 1 | 2 2 0 | -1 -2 +1 | |||
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137 116 | 9 1 8 | / 17 7 10 / | 7 1 6 | -8 -6 -2 | 91 74 | 20% 0% 24% | 0 0 0 | 2 0 2 | -2 0 -2 |
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wind_vlr [#1]The First time we see LG vs TSM
Who do you guys got? What will you think the match score will be?
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wind_vlr [#1]The First time we see LG vs TSM
Who do you guys got? What will you think the match score will be?
TSM 2-1 in an OT win is how I see the series going.
TSM have a slim advantage based on the stats, but we haven't seen them play, so we can't know for sure.
TSM likely bans out Haven, if they can.
LG likely to ban Bind because they sort of suck at it.
TSM are entirely dominant on Ascent, so it's pretty much in the bag. Saying that, LG are by no means terrible on Ascent, so we could see TSM finally loose a map this year!
Split and Icebox could go either way. I would favour LG on Icebox, but not by much. Likewise, I would say TSM plays a better Split, but they don't play it often, so there's not much of an advantage their either.
Looking at player stats, TSM look better overall. But, over there last 5 games, LG and TSM look almost toe-to-toe. So, pure firepower won't give either team the edge here.
It's great to see Subroza back on form - he is looking so lethal.
But, so is Thief!
Also, YaBoiDre & Aproto are looking better than ever.
So, prediction-wise, I'd take a stab in the dark and say:
2-1 TSM (Icebox played first)
2-0 TSM (Icebox 3rd Map)
As an avid TSM fan, I want TSM to win but we have to be truthful here, LG ever since the VCT began has been one of the best teams in NA, without a doubt. They are probably the best team to not make it to Masters yet, and they play very aggressively while being coordinated. TSM is aggressive but they can also be very passive at times as well.
For TSM to win, they would need to crank up the heat, and shut down thief and aproto, since they are the biggest threats on LG. They also cant play very clustered with one another, since LG just steamroll every team that plays in packs, the individual plays are key.
For LG to win, they need to play like they always have, aggro but coordinated. TSM's weakness is going against teams who play very aggro but are tactical as well, its like a double whammy.
If TSM bans Icebox, TSM hopefully take it 2-1
If LG bans Ascent or Haven, LG takes this 2-0
Either way, its gonna be a good game to watch
PoPanda [#16]TSM have a slim advantage based on the stats, but we haven't seen them play, so we can't know for sure.
TSM likely bans out Haven, if they can.
LG likely to ban Bind because they sort of suck at it.TSM are entirely dominant on Ascent, so it's pretty much in the bag. Saying that, LG are by no means terrible on Ascent, so we could see TSM finally loose a map this year!
Split and Icebox could go either way. I would favour LG on Icebox, but not by much. Likewise, I would say TSM plays a better Split, but they don't play it often, so there's not much of an advantage their either.
Looking at player stats, TSM look better overall. But, over there last 5 games, LG and TSM look almost toe-to-toe. So, pure firepower won't give either team the edge here.
It's great to see Subroza back on form - he is looking so lethal.
But, so is Thief!
Also, YaBoiDre & Aproto are looking better than ever.So, prediction-wise, I'd take a stab in the dark and say:
2-1 TSM (Icebox played first)
2-0 TSM (Icebox 3rd Map)
Icebox would be fun to see since both teams with small sample size are pretty dominant on it.
bigpeensheen [#17]As an avid TSM fan, I want TSM to win but we have to be truthful here, LG ever since the VCT began has been one of the best teams in NA, without a doubt. They are probably the best team to not make it to Masters yet, and they play very aggressively while being coordinated. TSM is aggressive but they can also be very passive at times as well.
For TSM to win, they would need to crank up the heat, and shut down thief and aproto, since they are the biggest threats on LG. They also cant play very clustered with one another, since LG just steamroll every team that plays in packs, the individual plays are key.
For LG to win, they need to play like they always have, aggro but coordinated. TSM's weakness is going against teams who play very aggro but are tactical as well, its like a double whammy.
If TSM bans Icebox, TSM hopefully take it 2-1
If LG bans Ascent or Haven, LG takes this 2-0Either way, its gonna be a good game to watch
really good points here
valplayer1 [#21]No way LG loses to TSM on icebox right? LG 2-0?
It's going to be a really good map. I hope TSM win so we can see another map.
ssynths [#31]hilarious that all the posts predicting that LG would 2-0 TSM got downvoted but now it’s reality hahaha
they probably haven't seen LG in recent tournys. LG were the favorites TSM just have stronger fan base.
mAko [#32]Wardell deserves to be in a top 5 team
Well he was on a top 3 team from Beta to First Strike... meanwhile TenZ dominated every event but his team could only get 3rd at best...
Fat_Lard [#34]Well he was on a top 3 team from Beta to First Strike... meanwhile TenZ dominated every event but his team could only get 3rd at best...
then he didn't dominate.
3gogglez [#36]then he didn't dominate.
I would say leading every ignition series up until one of the last ones in ACS would be considered dominating. It's a team game so 1 player dominating doesn't mean the team is successful. So just because they didn't win anything doesn't mean he wasn't dominating.
Ullyr [#33]they probably haven't seen LG in recent tournys. LG were the favorites TSM just have stronger fan base.
yeah after watching LG and TSM play recently LG were the obvious favorites but delusional tsm fans will downvote for no reason.
Fat_Lard [#37]I would say leading every ignition series up until one of the last ones in ACS would be considered dominating. It's a team game so 1 player dominating doesn't mean the team is successful. So just because they didn't win anything doesn't mean he wasn't dominating.
he's a good Tarkov content creator
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