NA lcq and Sentinels last chance

Sentinels need either:
NRG lose to guard
Ghost eliminated at 7-8th
Faze come 7-8th (sen beat c9 getting 20 points)

If faze come 7-8th and SEN come last then it doesnt matter .
Faze's points are prioritized because of the more recent points. Thats how they seeded last year for the LCQ
SENTINELS COPIUM AT A MAX RN
sen wants the guard to win and 100t to beat Ghost or Xset beat TSM and put them into upper QF instead of taking the first seed into the upper SF, then ghost lose back to back matches and come 7-8th.
either of these outcomes put sen at 10th on the point leader board. putting them in contention for the LCQ.
If they beat C9 and come second last in group they can have faze come 7-8th also

who cares

HECCIN_LOVE_TENZ [#2]

who cares

SEN fans

I car. Fuck everyone I really want to see SEN in LCQ. But a good one xD

I think ghost can finish 5-6 and sen would be ahead of them if they beat c9

GLN321 [#5]

I think ghost can finish 5-6 and sen would be ahead of them if they beat c9

Top 4 Ghost + Sen win over C9 is a tie, so yes.

LCQ is just another extra tournament for SEN, no way they are getting to champs

Not really much copium. All 3 very possible and only 1 needs to happen. The real copium is that they have a chance once LCQ happens.

dupreeeeeehalt [#7]

LCQ is just another extra tournament for SEN, no way they are getting to champs

After Masters Berlin last year people thought 100T would qualify through LCQ. No one expected C9 and Rise to play for a spot in Champs. It's NA Val, so anything can happen.

CowboySG [#6]

Top 4 Ghost + Sen win over C9 is a tie, so yes.

if they tie for points, ghost will go ahead. if theyre using the same tie breaker rules as last year. Beating c9 gives them 5 chances. If they lose they only have two

Scottyboi30 [#10]

if they tie for points, ghost will go ahead. if theyre using the same tie breaker rules as last year. Beating c9 gives them 5 chances. If they lose they only have two

they would only tie if sen lose against c9

GLN321 [#11]

they would only tie if sen lose against c9

if ghost get top 4 then this wont work for sen

Scottyboi30 [#12]

if ghost get top 4 then this wont work for sen

yes, thats why I said 5-6 in my comment

Blazieboy [#9]

After Masters Berlin last year people thought 100T would qualify through LCQ. No one expected C9 and Rise to play for a spot in Champs. It's NA Val, so anything can happen.

Sen will probably need to bootcamp into LCQ, but if they put 100% effort in then sure.

Scottyboi30 [#10]

if they tie for points, ghost will go ahead. if theyre using the same tie breaker rules as last year. Beating c9 gives them 5 chances. If they lose they only have two

What was the tiebreaker?

GLN321 [#13]

yes, thats why I said 5-6 in my comment

cowboy said ghost top 4 tho

Blazieboy [#9]

After Masters Berlin last year people thought 100T would qualify through LCQ. No one expected C9 and Rise to play for a spot in Champs. It's NA Val, so anything can happen.

they removed a key player of their roster before lcq, im sure that did affect the team hard
if you watch 100T's berlin voice comms you'll understand steel's calls made sense

Scottyboi30 [#16]

cowboy said ghost top 4 tho

he said top 4 would mean a tie with sen, so it logically follows that top5-6 would have sen with more circuit points (I think)

CowboySG [#15]

What was the tiebreaker?

i realize there wont be a tie breaker for ghost top 4, ghost would just qual. But the tie breaker was, points acquired in the most recent challengers would be prioritized. C9, GENG and RISE last lcq where seeded that way.

GLN321 [#18]

he said top 4 would mean a tie with sen, so it logically follows that top5-6 would have sen with more circuit points (I think)

it doesnt tie, sen would be on 50 (beating c9) and ghost on 55 (top 4) if ghost get 5-6th (45 points) then sen qual

Scottyboi30 [#20]

it doesnt tie, sen would be on 50 (beating c9) and ghost on 55 (top 4) if ghost get 5-6th (45 points) then sen qual

yeah idk what was his source

GLN321 [#21]

yeah idk what was his source

im using liquipedia

dupreeeeeehalt [#17]

they removed a key player of their roster before lcq, im sure that did affect the team hard
if you watch 100T's berlin voice comms you'll understand steel's calls made sense

True but did anyone expect RISE to make it to the finals? I don't think I did.

Scottyboi30 [#20]

it doesnt tie, sen would be on 50 (beating c9) and ghost on 55 (top 4) if ghost get 5-6th (45 points) then sen qual

I was wrong lol

Scottyboi30 [#22]

im using liquipedia

so am I, idk about cowboy tho

GLN321 [#21]

yeah idk what was his source

VLRgg
https://www.vlr.gg/vct/standings

CowboySG [#26]

VLRgg
https://www.vlr.gg/vct/standings

ok but here if sen win against c9, they finish with 50 circuit points, if ghost finish top 4 they finish with 55 and if they finish 5-6, they end up with 45. there's no scenario where they tie if sen wins, no?

Scottyboi30 [#20]

it doesnt tie, sen would be on 50 (beating c9) and ghost on 55 (top 4) if ghost get 5-6th (45 points) then sen qual

Assuming LCQ is the same as last year, the top 8 teams in points outside of those qualified for Champions will make it in.
Updated as Stage 2 Points are higher than Stage 1

Place. Team (Minimum Points after Stage 2, Current Points, Max points if out of Playoffs)

1. Optic Gaming (785, 750, x)
2. The Guard (215, 200, x)
   ------Champions Cutoff----
3. XSET (80, 45, x)
4. Luminosity (70, 35, x)
5. Cloud9 (65, 50, 70)
6. 100 Thieves (50, 15, x)
7. Evil Geniuses (45, 10, x)
8. Faze (45, 10, x)
9. Sentinels (45, 30, 50)
10. Ghost Gaming (35, 35, x)
    ----Last Chance Qualifier Cut-off----
11. Version1 (35, 35, 35)
12. NRG (30, 15, x)
13. Pittsburg Knights (30, 30, 30)
14. TSM (15, 0, 20)

GLN321 [#27]

ok but here if sen win against c9, they finish with 50 circuit points, if ghost finish top 4 they finish with 55 and if they finish 5-6, they end up with 45. there's no scenario where they tie if sen wins, no?

Sen is at 30. If they get 5th, they get 15, if they get 6th, they get 10. Sen can only score 40 or 45

CowboySG [#28]

Assuming LCQ is the same as last year, the top 8 teams in points outside of those qualified for Champions will make it in.
Updated as Stage 2 Points are higher than Stage 1

Place. Team (Minimum Points after Stage 2, Current Points, Max points if out of Playoffs)

1. Optic Gaming (785, 750, x)
2. The Guard (215, 200, x)
   ------Champions Cutoff----
3. XSET (80, 45, x)
4. Luminosity (70, 35, x)
5. Cloud9 (65, 50, 70)
6. 100 Thieves (50, 15, x)
7. Evil Geniuses (45, 10, x)
8. Faze (45, 10, x)
9. Sentinels (45, 30, 50)
10. Ghost Gaming (35, 35, x)
    ----Last Chance Qualifier Cut-off----
11. Version1 (35, 35, 35)
12. NRG (30, 15, x)
13. Pittsburg Knights (30, 30, 30)
14. TSM (15, 0, 20)

Just realized they changed the points for stage 2. RIP lmao. Unfair to teams like V1 and sen, but ok

CowboySG [#29]

Sen is at 30. If they get 5th, they get 15, if they get 6th, they get 10. Sen can only score 40 or 45

wait where did you get this?
vlr has it at 15 points for 11-12 and 20 for 9-10
(https://www.vlr.gg/event/800/champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers/group-stage)
and liquipedia say that 15 points is the minimum secured points, so same thing
(https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2022/Circuit_Points/North_America)

GLN321 [#31]

wait where did you get this?
vlr has it at 15 points for 11-12 and 20 for 9-10
(https://www.vlr.gg/event/800/champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers/group-stage)
and liquipedia say that 15 points is the minimum secured points, so same thing
(https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2022/Circuit_Points/North_America)

Stage 1 and Stage 2 has different points awarded, I made the mistake of assuming they were the same.

Scottyboi30 [#3]

SEN fans

and haters,, they need to know who to root for

CowboySG [#30]

Just realized they changed the points for stage 2. RIP lmao. Unfair to teams like V1 and sen, but ok

Is your current edited verison right?

U know a team is shit when they have to depend on other teams to win/loose.

CanadianLegend [#34]

Is your current edited verison right?

Yes

CowboySG [#28]

Assuming LCQ is the same as last year, the top 8 teams in points outside of those qualified for Champions will make it in.
Updated as Stage 2 Points are higher than Stage 1

Place. Team (Minimum Points after Stage 2, Current Points, Max points if out of Playoffs)

1. Optic Gaming (785, 750, x)
2. The Guard (215, 200, x)
   ------Champions Cutoff----
3. XSET (80, 45, x)
4. Luminosity (70, 35, x)
5. Cloud9 (65, 50, 70)
6. 100 Thieves (50, 15, x)
7. Evil Geniuses (45, 10, x)
8. Faze (45, 10, x)
9. Sentinels (45, 30, 50)
10. Ghost Gaming (35, 35, x)
    ----Last Chance Qualifier Cut-off----
11. Version1 (35, 35, 35)
12. NRG (30, 15, x)
13. Pittsburg Knights (30, 30, 30)
14. TSM (15, 0, 20)

sen just need 1 of nrg or ghost to place below them on this to qual

Why we still here just to suffer