NA LCQ Situation

https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/v57na1/na_lcq_points_standings_and_scenarios/

TLDR

1. Optic - Most Likely Qualified for Champions(Very specific event needs to happen for them to not qualify which involves Guard winning masters 2 or coming 2nd in it with the other NA team in the event, winning it) btw lets gooo.

2. Guard, XSET, C9, LG - Qualified for LCQ

3. EG, 100T, NRG, Faze - Need to qualify for playoffs to qualify for LCQ

4. Ghost - Need to make top 6 in playoffs to qualify, if they don't then they tie with V1 at 35 points

5. Sentinels - Qualify if neither of TSM and Ghost make Top 6 and Faze doesn’t qualify for playoffs. Even if this happens they can still qualify but the scenario needed would be that 100T and NRG don't make playoffs.

6. Knights , TSM - Out of Race

Place. Team (Minimum Points after Stage 2, Current Points, Max points if out of Playoffs) (Thanks to cowboy for this)

1. Optic Gaming (780, 750, x)
2. The Guard (210, 200, x)
   ------Champions Cutoff----
3. XSET (75, 45, x)
4. Luminosity (65, 35, x)
5. Cloud9 (60, 50, 65)
6. 100 Thieves (45, 15, x)
7. Evil Geniuses (40, 10, x)
8. Faze (40, 10, x)
9. Sentinels (40, 30, 45)
10. Version1 (35, 35, 35)
    ----Last Chance Qualifier Cut-off----
11. Ghost Gaming (30, 30, x)
12. Pittsburg Knights (30, 30, 30)
13. NRG (25, 15, x)
14. TSM (10, 0, 15)

Faze qualifies for playoffs easily so Sentinels are out.

Shownu [#2]

Faze qualifies for playoffs easily so Sentinels are out.

Yea, most likely. Cuz I feel like Ghost might make top 6 anyways even if Faze doesnt qualify. But you never know

Shownu [#2]

Faze qualifies for playoffs easily so Sentinels are out.

EG are better imo so If C9 beat LG and Sen its very possible that Faze don't make it out of groups

the sen part is not completely accurate, I think they instantly go to LCQ if guard make it to playoffs, and I think they can still make it even if faze doesn't make playoffs, in case they dont make top 6.

stopped reading at optic "most likely" qualified, coz 2 teams can't have more points, than team

61Hiko [#6]

stopped reading at optic "most likely" qualified, coz 2 teams can't have more points, than team

There is a chance but very very unlikely:

Optic bombs out of playoffs somehow-they end with 765 points

Guard somehow turns their season around, gets second in the world-they have around 900 points

A different NA team wins masters-they have at least 1000 points

Basically if guard and another NA team clutch up and optic super choke then it’s possible. Obviously the chances of this happening are almost 0 lol.

GLN321 [#5]

the sen part is not completely accurate, I think they instantly go to LCQ if guard make it to playoffs, and I think they can still make it even if faze doesn't make playoffs, in case they dont make top 6.

yea,
Sen can get into LCQ even if Faze make playoffs along with both Ghost and TSM making top 6.
The scenario is that 100T and NRG don't make playoffs.

61Hiko [#6]

stopped reading at optic "most likely" qualified, coz 2 teams can't have more points, than team

You should read the stuff inside the bracket, man...
55555555 explained it above anyways

So sentinels actually needs to lose to C9 if they want a chance at LCQ?

lorenzopajaroFC [#10]

So sentinels actually needs to lose to C9 if they want a chance at LCQ?

Yea that will definitely increase their odds xD

JustEnjoying [#11]

Yea that will definitely increase their odds xD

Hell yeah now they can finally achieve something by doing what they’re good at, losing

lorenzopajaroFC [#12]

Hell yeah now they can finally achieve something by doing what they’re good at, losing

💀

Sad Sen noices ;-;

deathlyclaws [#14]

Sad Sen noices ;-;

They are not out yet, deathly. With teams having amazing fans like you, they are never out. ;)

BUMP!

Technically V1 nor sentinels are out. V1 is incredibly slim as if NRG makes it to playoffs or Ghost gets more than the minimum 30 points for playoff qual, they are out.

deathlyclaws [#14]

Sad Sen noices ;-;

Sen only needs NRG to miss playoffs. Then they barely squeak in. If ghost gets a first round exit, they also get in.

CowboySG [#18]

Sen only needs NRG to miss playoffs. Then they barely squeak in. If ghost gets a first round exit, they also get in.

You sure on this?

JustEnjoying [#19]

You sure on this?

Slightly off

CowboySG [#20]

Slightly off

👍yep

JustEnjoying [#21]

👍yep

I'd say Sen has a very high chance of making LCQ. I think the Guard beats NRG.

CowboySG [#22]

I'd say Sen has a very high chance of making LCQ. I think the Guard beats NRG.

Yea I think they make it

CowboySG [#17]

Technically V1 nor sentinels are out. V1 is incredibly slim as if NRG makes it to playoffs or Ghost gets more than the minimum 30 points for playoff qual, they are out.

Ghost already got in, V1 cant qual, no?

JustEnjoying [#24]

Ghost already got in, V1 cant qual, no?

V1 is at 35 since they advanced to second round after their win over Sen in Stage 1 playoffs. Ghost sits at 30 if they exit first round, and tie at 35 if they exit second.

CowboySG [#25]

V1 is at 35 since they advanced to second round after their win over Sen in Stage 1 playoffs. Ghost sits at 30 if they exit first round, and tie at 35 if they exit second.

Damn zero points for last position? oof.
This is not happening tho most prob but still a possibility.

JustEnjoying [#26]

Damn zero points for last position? oof.
This is not happening tho most prob but still a possibility.

1st : Masters
2nd : Masters
3rd : 50 points
4th : 45 points
5th-6th : 35 points
7th-8th : 30 points (First round exit)
9th-10th : 15 points (5th in groups, failed to qual)
11th-12th : 10 points (6th in groups, failed to qual)

So they get points just like v1 did in stage 1, but V1 got 5th/6th in Stage 1, so ghost needs to get top 4 to guarantee LCQ

CowboySG [#27]

1st : Masters
2nd : Masters
3rd : 50 points
4th : 45 points
5th-6th : 35 points
7th-8th : 30 points (First round exit)
9th-10th : 15 points (5th in groups, failed to qual)
11th-12th : 10 points (6th in groups, failed to qual)

So they get points just like v1 did in stage 1, but V1 got 5th/6th in Stage 1, so ghost needs to get top 4 to guarantee LCQ

Ahhh this makes sense. Thank you for the info

Assuming LCQ is the same as last year, the top 8 teams in points outside of those qualified for Champions will make it in.
Updated as Stage 2 Points are higher than Stage 1

Place. Team (Minimum Points after Stage 2, Current Points, Max points if out of Playoffs)

1. Optic Gaming (785, 750, x)
2. The Guard (215, 200, x)
   ------Champions Cutoff----
3. XSET (80, 45, x)
4. Luminosity (70, 35, x)
5. Cloud9 (65, 50, 70)
6. 100 Thieves (50, 15, x)
7. Evil Geniuses (45, 10, x)
8. Faze (45, 10, x)
9. Sentinels (45, 30, 50)
10. Ghost Gaming (35, 35, x)
    ----Last Chance Qualifier Cut-off----
11. Version1 (35, 35, 35)
12. NRG (30, 15, x)
13. Pittsburg Knights (30, 30, 30)
14. TSM (15, 0, 20)