1-13 fk/fd ange1 omen. I miss the inting king.

Ange1 2022 wym

wym, this is normal for boaster.

Bro can activate other players, but individually he makes the worst decisions for his own game.

I retract what I said.

The two main liabilities of the season stepped tf up.

HLE.

top gap and adc gap.

Just like how you told me earlier to look on hltv and reddit, you show me where the legacy is what defines an S tier event. Because everything I could find, was all opinion as there's no strict definition of what an S tier is, only what general communities consider S tier.

You're right, the definition has never been challenged. It's just been considered that S tier events are the biggest events during the year. This tends to be linked to the level of competition, the scale of the event, prize pool, production, etc etc. it's been like that since star craft in the early 2000s. The legacy means nothing, it comes along with it.

I agree that so far valorant has only had S tier events that have been apart of the vct tour. However that doesn't mean that S tier is only restricted to first party events. I think apex is the only esport where they only have official events as S tier.

The definition of what constitutes an S tier event is also community driven, and so far you're the only person I've seen only define it as official first party hosted events, that stick to a specific criteria.
I wont lie that first party events tend to have a larger impact on a players legacy, that's undeniable. However that doesn't mean those events are the only S tier events.

You're just changing your view of S tier events. first it has to the be hosted by the dev/publishers, and now it has to define someones legacy.
Just because an event doesn't live up to your definition of what constitutes S tier, doesn't mean it's not counted as one by the majority.
I also never said this even is an S tier. The production of it has been ass during the qual stage. Streams missing, low production value, etc.

If S tier events are the ones that defined a winners legacy, then the Dreamhack Shroud won is S tier. It's the only event he ever won, and that defined his CS legacy.

Like I understand what you're saying, but it's just not what the general consensus is.
The general consensus is that what makes an S tier event is the level of competition, the prize pool, and the scale of the event itself.

Shitty formatting was the only issue with kickoff.
Kickoff also gave circuit points and was a qual event for masters. It fits every theoretical bill for an S tier. I dont see it as an S tier, but on paper it counts as one.
Just like cs fans say, some majors aren't S tier because of the lack of competition, however the general rule is that the event itself, is due to level of competition and scale of the event. PGL Astana for example.

However like you said, CS is a different ecosystem. It doesn't have a version of "worlds/champions", and only has majors. However each major has it's own prestige behind it.

Also by your definition kickoff and stages are S tier. Hosted events, offline, by riot, part of the vct tour?

I'm also not saying liquipedia is the definitive answer for every event. I'm saying their rules on their rankings is the general consensus of what makes an S tier. They also said lockin is S tier, and I honestly believe that was A at most. They're not 100% right with some tournament tiers, but it's usually based on who's attending. you're seeing the best of the best, with S tier teams facing against each other, on a grand stage. It's not the best way we have to describe metrics, but it's the only loose definition that most esport scenes go by.

I was going by what any google search of "what makes an esports event S tier"
Most reports came up with what I said, including liquipedias definition of S tier event. Especially considering liquipedia is the primary source for labelling events as S tier, or Tier1 in esports, aswell as the primary source for overall esports esports information online.

hltv doesn't have any threads on it from what I could find, but on the CS subreddit, it seems to be based on the teams participating, size of the event, and money. It's why some majors are considered

League doesn't have S/A/B tier events, is similar to val, where EWC is the only other event that is non-riot hosted. However even liquipedia considers it an S tier event due to the level of competition.

I mean, your definition of the term isn't what is widely considered as correct, so I highly doubt I'm wrong.

CS does have a different ecosystem. Just like pretty much any other esport from a different developer.

However, what makes an S tier event has remained the same for other games aswell, regardless of the ecosystem.

Just being hosted or part of the main circuit isn't mandatory for the levels of events.

Nah, I think that's not it. By that you can say in CS only Valve hosted events are S tier, which doesn't make sense.

S tier is only the highest level events. High prize pool, production, and prestige.
Just being a vct event doesn't make something an S tier event.

I'll agree it's not a S-Tier event. It has an S-Tier prizepool, but so far the production has been ass.

It's lacking good production, and tenure. Give it a few events, and only then will it be S tier. rn it's probably A tier, just carried by prizepool.

No, but esports relies on investments, and as shitty as Saudi are, they're investing in the esports.

Worst player to play in t1 - Russ

Stax has to be above fns man.
Fns had a solid year and a half of results, and as soon as yey left, the team crumbled internationally.

Stax was relevant in shaping set plays in the beginning of the game, and has remained relevant as an igl since then, attending most LAN events the game has. Kinda nuts people still rate fns so high after being carried by yay, and crashies.

Bro, I honestly think it's worse than the viper astra meta. At least you had to know lineups. All Tejo is, is be in range and click the ipad.

They released the total prize pool including skin sales/battlepass sales.
The year spirit won, the total prizepool was 40mil.

Me

His narrative for being a baiter came from his numerous 1vX situations.
As a duelist he was the last alive on his team as a crazy high rate compared to his counterpart on other teams.

He also slowed down on hard entrying on Lev, compared to what he used to do on Loud.

Bro isn't even a baiter though. his playstyle just isn't the hard entry anymore. he's not like miniboo who'd run it down to make space, or like Texture who'd just sprint it down as Jett and somehow make it work. Aspas has always been a balanced duelist. He could go aggressive at times, but would also play a bit passive. People just overreacted to him, despite him being the main reasons Lev achieved anything last year.

He didn't get to fame in valorant only because of his brother though.
He came to valorant with fame already behind him, and a name already behind him. Sure being forsakens brother helped bring attention to him when he swapped.

Also he wasn't overhyped because of his CS mechanics. he was overhyped because he was the most successful Susanto brother out of them. He had the most reputation and prestige behind his career than forsaken. that's what overhyped him when he swapped. Nobody overhyped him because of his cs skills, because the past 2 years in cs for him looked awful.
It's why most people who knew him from cs, knew he wouldn't be some godsend player. He was going to be average and slightly above average than most people. Never a top5 player.

Plus his team with t1 was disfunctional af. Going from being a main awper in CS, to being a flex who rifles, while having saya on main op. It didn't make any sense.
Also he was the most consistent player on his t1 behind rossy until they relegated him to rifling on smokers only.

tldr; His brother isn't the reason he's known. His career is why he's known. Forsaken brought new gens to overhype him, because of the status be brought with him from cs.

He got fame because he's one of the most decorated and successful CS asian players in the history of the game, wym.

He had hype moving over because there were only a handful of asian players in CS who were regarded better mechanically than him.
Him being forsakens brother was only attributed by new gens who know nothing about his time in CS

wym going +18 across 4 maps is goat level performance. Bro is up there with Aspas and Leo.

She was never in the dumpster when it came to professional play though.
She had her place, i.e. fracture and pearl which were by far her best maps, and she ended up becoming meta on them during 2023.
the removal of those two maps from the map pool, is what dumpstered her. That as she wasn't more useful to the game than a Jett, or pre nerf raze.
Now after her buff, you see her on everymap but split, bind, and abyss. Two of those maps being the only maps being Raze meta maps. The last being a Jett map.

Look at it this way Pearl and Fracture were a perfect example in 2023 on how Neon was a good agent
Instead of making her slide making haven a pretty much perma pick for her, given the astuns clearing pretty much all of garage, and the slides clearing any side tight corners with full accuracy.
Pearl she was always a secondary duelist pick, given she worked well in cohesion with an oping Jett.
Sunset the fast rotates, sharp corners into sites, and narrow corridors makes her stuns, sprint and slide all too oppressive.

Never thought I'd see a day where Ethan was a downgrade to Boostio.
Unlucky that demon1 got all the blame from the team underperforming, instead of the system NRG made where no there was no real igl.

So you're saying, by them fixing their role issues, utalising the current meta. EDG overall, improved as a team in performances?

Friends saying it to friends is a different story.
Saying it in general, is pretty much frowned upon in most countries.

tf you mean lol

You say that around any black guy and you'd get your shit rocked.

Only people who say it are either edgy, or trying to be part of black culture where they clearly dont belong.

idek why people hyped zeek up so much.

He was insanely hyped up when he left noplenki to join g2, then g2 just fumbled game after game. His only good showcase was his champs 21 run, which he returned to being another average pro player again.
People just treated him as a superstar player because he was insane on noplenki, playing against the likes of Wave, Forze, BIG. His performances he ever had against tier1 EU at the time, was always inconsistent.

Kuronami and champs 21 below cryo and magepunk is a crazy take.

I mean, it's probably just agree to disagree, but attending all lans is a better achievement than missing one. It shows one team is consistent, and the other just has highs and lows. Plus out of 3 lans they made finals twice, only underperforming once. Sen attended 2/3, and performed well in the two.

Also you say 0 issues getting out of pacific, but neglect to remember that prx was 9-1 in pacific, and Geng went into playoffs being 4th in the league. PRX were ass at internationals, but regionals they were the best team in pacific, and only lost to drx and geng in playoffs.

Making 2 back to back finals, winning one. I'd say trumps making one podium and missing an event. Sen are just too inconsistent to be a better team imo. This is overall, not just Sen vs Geng. in matchups its a cointoss. Overall this year, GenG has been a better team.

isn't even that win. Bro had one good event after being mediocre on g2, then being meh on acend until 2021champs, then returned to being mediocre after that.

GenG were by far the better team overall in the VCT circuit.

Less losses, attended every Lan, with only one lan being an underperformance.

Sen attended all but one lan, and coming 6th in champs.

Even with geng being grouped, their consistency across the year was far superior to Sen.
Hell, without Lev beating Kru, Sen wouldn't be at champs. They were close to losing the spot.

It's a close comparison as both had similar peaks, but geng going back to back finals, consistent across regional. I'd say their year was better.

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it's 5'9
If you're using a converter from cm to ft, then it's saying it's 5.7ft which isn't 5'7"
It's 5'9"

To get the height, convert 175cm to inches, which is roughly 69.
Then see how many ft go into 69inches. 1ft is 12inches, so 12 goes into 69 5 times, with 9 being the remainder.

so 5ft 9"

Not really. Every roster Tenz has been on post c9, has had at least one star player.

Going by year, 21,22,23,etc
first sen team - Sick, Dapr - dapr is a bit iffy out of the two, but bro would hold it down on in 2021

second roster - Zellsis at this time was the star player of v1, and was on a heater. He just fell off hard compared to what he was in 2022.

third roster - Zekken, Sacy, Pancada This roster was great on paper, but just ended up being so ass.

The past 3 years, he's had at least one player other than himself, that had that factor about him

when we go by each year of rosters with Leo, Sayf is the only constant star player he had until Trexx. Yacine was a demon in 2021, but pro fell off harder than anyone i've seen. Dude went one week from dropping insane numbers, to being the worst player I've seen entry on Raze.

I mean, if you include old guild, then nah. The last roster, sure they had Trexx. that's where Leo started to shine as a star player.
Sayf and Trexx were the only player who could shoot on that team after yacines drop in performance.
However if you go back and rewatch their games, yacine would play worse than ange1, and ange1 was a walking ult orb for a solid few months.
Like bro would entry, get 0 entries and then Leo would have to entry after him because sayf was a chamber merchant.

Shao atleast had a consistent duelist who'd perform well. He had a awful smoker/igl who'd die in the first 30seconds. However atleast the other 3 would all play well, and support pushes.

Leo didn't have Suygetsu, or peak Ardis to support him either.
Bro had Bonkar and yacine.

bro started hitting his stride in 2016, then around 2018 he was just different.

but yeah, him starting to be in form right at the start of the astralis era was unfortunate.

I'm pretty sure s1mple was the start of it, as he was the best rated player in hltv for years before getting his first major. Well, top3 player for years before getting it.

It's the lack of close series. Only 9 out of 28 matches have gone to third map. the most intersting and proabbly only intersting matches to watch, were the underdogs, as group stages they were insane.

This champs is both the most intersting, and least at the same time. Most of the matches have been 2-0 with one team looking ass, the other looking good. Only a few have had both teams looked good, and having a close game.
However, any of the teams in top6 could win. there's no clear favourite, which I find intersting and good as a spectator. This event has been good, just everything from timezone, to seeing for playoffs being dog.
Plus the groups stage for me was better than playoffs. the upsets, teams being grouped when they looked so good at regionals. By far the best groupstage I've seen across all 4 events.

Like when you look at previous years champs, the main point of the events felt like this.

2021 - first champs, Cypher cam drama, cNed being an unstoppable force, Sentinels losing to KRU after zombs saying Br as a region is shit. top contender teams and top of their region teams being grouped, etc.

2022 - Rise of BR after being dog the previous year in every event. Loud being an insane team stomping everyone around. Yey being probably the best hardcarry player in the world, and arguable the best player. DRX nearly reverse sweeping Optic in lower finals.

2023 - pretty much the eg storyline. Without the Eg storyline and redemption of the roster + potter. I think this event would be similar to this one.

jinggg fans wernt the reason monyet was dropped from prx. Jinggg is the poster child of the team. Ofc if he doesn't go millitary, he's going to rejoin.
Just the hate monyet got made the whole situation ironic, because how people reacted to his poor performances and underwhelming results. Jinggg has continued that.

Just an overall shit situation.

I do see the comparisons with yay, as a player who's ws pretty much crippled by a couple nerfs and never hit his strider again. Jinggg wont hit the levels of current yay, given jinggg can actually rifle and and started delving into other agents that aren't raze.

What I noticed with him getting all his hate, isn't due to personality, or him not being the best.

I see it as the whole mess of him leaving and rejoining. The hate moneyet had after shanghai, and the jing rejoining and not performing that much better than moneyet, despite being far more inflexible in agent pool.

Just seems a lot of people blame jinggg for prx's performance.

So you're telling me they both won 1 masters, and lost every other event they attended?

Bro, when moneyet was on prx, there were daily hate threads because he replaced Jinggg.

We just dont see them recently because jinggg fans and prx fans have no reason to hate on him anymore.

Also most people on this site glazed jingg for the past 3 years. They're only realising that he's a destiment to prx at this point, given his inflexibility to play agents. It's only very recently I've seen hate go on jinggg, after 3 years of positive posts.

I never understood the hate for Southgate. He's the only Manager England have had in decades to get them to a final, and even look like a contender in the top4. He's done what the golden generation could never do.

The only critique I have for him the past few matches, is leaving Watkins on the bench for so long. It was pretty obvious the past few matches, that kane struggles heavily as he's heavily marked, and bro barely moves. He struggles to facilitate and play off Foden and Saka at times.

Kane is a great striker, but against that spain, he ain't the pick.

Plus midfield let through so many spanish players. Southgate runs 3 defenders, and the amount of times they got overran in their half before Midfields marking was slopping.

If fnatic lose chronicle, they wouldn't be as successful as they are. He's the best fill player in the world, by far. He's the reason everyone else on fnatic plays their comfort picks on their comfort maps.

Sen need Tenz because they have sacy and zellsis who are so inconsistent in their play,. that they need some form of consistency, and only Zekken and johnqt aren't enough.

I'd argue chronicle is the best overall player on the team behind Alfa.
Leo can only play initiator, and at that he's world class on two of them (sova fade), and top10 for the rest (gekko, breach) He also doesn't play kayo or skye, leaving chronicle to play them
Derke who has awful lows, but strong highs. Bro has had rough consistency issues the past year.
Alfa is the only player I'd 100% rate above chronicle. Flexes roles, and has great mechanical skill.

TenZ was the best player in the world during two events in 2021.After that bro had dogshit consistency issues for two years, until the most recent iteration of Sentinels.

Chron was just regarded and still is as the best flex in the world, since his days on Gambit. But you know, the two events where TenZ did good trumps 3 full years of consistency by chronicle.

They also had 3 players, a coach, an assistant coach, two analysts and still decided to not pick up a real igl until they failed to qual

idk.

s0m on omen maps, and raze on others. demon1 has experience as astra, and brim. Just train him on a cypher or literally any initiator and they're good on maps where vic played sentinel instead of raze (Sunset)

Demon1 was by far not the reason nrg didn't succeed this past split. Having no real dedicated igl with experience was the issue.

I respect Ethan trying to igl, but taking Ethan as igl instead of a dedicated primary igl with experience, and expecting good results after only 9 official matches. Just kinda dumb imo.