its not a run tho thats my point. Itd be a miracle run if all the other teams self destructed and they made shang hai cause of it but no one remembers playoffs unless you make the event.
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its not a run tho thats my point. Itd be a miracle run if all the other teams self destructed and they made shang hai cause of it but no one remembers playoffs unless you make the event.
winning a miracle run
mf this is groups it aint even a run this isnt even to qual for shang hai its to qual for a chance to qual for shang hai.
If she's still with u after u said u got a 5 digit vlr post count you should leave thats a massive red flag shes desperate
and then they trounce DRX
how do you attempt to "dismantle the systems" lmao? name me one political philosopher who considers that an action of an invididual
show me where the fuck i said it was the action of an individual? Spending your energy on fucking vlr trying to cancel a content creator isn't doing shit. If you think you're making a change by doing any of this you're lying to yourself. You're right dismantling systems of discrimination and racism is an incredibly complicated and massive task that a single individual cannot complete alone. However, posting a "keznit racism allegations" isn't even making an attempt at that. This MF literally said keznit is reproducing structural racism you sure this is the hill you wanna die on? If he's an activist as he claims why is his activism limited to make vlr posts? Why isn't he organizing? Why isn't he spending time contributing to communities harmed by systematic racism. Why is he wasting his energy on vlr?
the best way to fight online racism in content creators is to spread awareness, and to out those who are, to prevent those people from creating pipelines through which to influence their younger fans
You're feeding yourself a pipe-dream. I hate to break it to ya but you aren't stopping radicalization by canceling someone. Radicalization will happen to these people regardless of whether or not you make vlr thread about keznit. If someone is susceptible to radicalization by keznit making monkey noises then they're likely already being groomed into racist sentiments in their personal life. Radicalization is a systemic cultural issue with how we raise and teach our youth.
I said it before I'll say it again you just wanna be mad. No shit keznits a racist piece of shit but stop with this concern trolling bullshit acting like you're doing something. You're just whining online you aren't stopping racism you aren't preventing radicalization you're writing a self-masturbatory thread about how good of a person you are.
how do you know he's a liberal
I don't just an assumption based on his actions. I doubt a right-winger is calling keznit racist and I would be surprised if he's a leftist given the fact he said keznit is "reproducing structural racism."
his track record is awful. Hes consistently shown that his teams have an inability to adapt to both meta shifts and higher level competition. the guard fell apart the moment the meta shifted towards chamber. C9 fell apart the moment they were pressed by serious competition in a tournament setting. He can get as much group stage success as he wants and itll never mean shit.
+MCE (Coach)
what are you smoking. MCE has show time and time again that his teams dont have legs.
imma call that cap. whatever though. you're concern trolling not raising awareness.
oh come the fuck on dude you're paying lip service to the idea of structural racism on a Valorant forum to seem reasonable. If you actually gave a fuck you'd be attempting to dismantle the systems that actively enforce and protect racist people instead of sitting inside complaining about an esports player. This is why i dont fuck with liberals fuckin fake activist mf all you do is performative.
Don't get me wrong him implying that Keznit is causing murders by making monkey noises is wild. Its like saying that WW2 was caused by some random racist dude in Germany.
At a certain point post hoc doesn't exactly apply. I can say "If I let go of this rock it will fall because that's what I saw it do the other 100 times" and while that is indeed a post hoc fallacy its a little disingenuous to imply that it completely discredits the statement.
TLDR implying that the normalization of racism increases racist violence and hate crimes isn't exactly the most wild thing in the world.
it is very far-fetched to make people believe that it is a monkey sound
only if you dont have ears LOL
Is that all? So mad you gotta act like you're baiting now huh? Farewell coward :)
Imma just leave this here while im at it
.t does not require line of site
Lie #1
It will not be ww3 to create a lineup like you are implying
Lie #2
That alone is a situation where their kit exceeds other smoke agents.
Lie #3
okay so your argument is ignore what I said, call me stupid, then continue ignoring what I said. Typical 0 star baiter throwaway account.
and the temper-tantrum that follows.
no you didn't. again you can't read you picked out piece by piece out of context.
MF you literally intentionally misinterpreted 3 of my points in that comment and are coming in here talking about "you cant read." I didn't take shit out of context. You're just mad and have nothing to reply with. Notice how the only response you've had to any of my points this entire thread is either 1 misinterpreting/lying about my points or 2 not knowing the basic mechanics of clove's abilities.
even when you did "reply" you didn't actually say anything. Your comebacks are literally, "you're delusional", "you're scrambling", "you're stupid".
I think that's warranted when you loudly and proudly say straight up lies about the agent we're discussing. To be clear "you're scrambling" and "you're delusional" were responses to you lying. But oh well I'm happy knowing anyone with a brain can read this thread to see how idiotic you are.
I already told you that you're wrong
? all you did was lie about how clove's abilities work. Not my fault you lack basic knowledge of her kit. I'm starting to think you've never played her.
Oh well. Keep it up this just makes me look better ! You're calling me a baiter now so you have a way of running away while saving face keep it up!
except you're picking pieces out of context to only support what you're saying hmmmm
I quoted every single word and replied directly to the points you made. You wanna run and say I'm baiting now cause you know you fucked up. How come you didn't even know the cooldown of Clove's smokes? How come you didn't know her decay requires LOS?
You're very loud and very wrong. Oh well. Keep running :)
there is no point in franchising history where navi has been a top 3 team
lost to fut and drx to champs using the same strats
they lost to fut in the regular season... they lost to fut... to fut... It wasn't because of recycling strats either this was before tokyo.
Regardless even when they were at their peak (tokyo) it was still their weakest map. They almost lost to EG on it. Also you don't just get 13-1ed because of recycling stats. Especially by 2023 DRX. Recycling strats on a map that wasn't weak would've been like a 13-6 or 13-7 or at worst a 13-4 (look at their loud games) you dont just get 13-1ed on a good part of your map pool. Also literally just watch the post loud rematch interview from last year. Mini literally agreed that bind was weak for them.
whats this revisionist history? Bind was objectively a weak map for fnc last year.
I guess a direct point-by-point response is now ignoring what someone said 🤷♂️. Oh well we both know you're just running away because I exposed the fact you don't know basic mechanics about how clove's kit works which completely negates your argument. Not surprising I'd be embarrassed too if I were you.
are shit were shit will be shit nothing changed
if you're gonna type this much why not read what I actually typed? No shit im not saying agents are only picked based on how long they've been in the game??? There is a reason you didn't quote me saying that and it's cause I never said it. I literally went on to write it takes teams extra time they do not have to create strats and comps including new agents.
Are you daft? Do you understand the English language? Replying to a comment saying that clove isn't going to get picked with "well shes a new agent so teams aren't picking her" clearly implies that the only reason clove isn't being played is because shes new. I literally even agreed and said the fact that she is newer may be a slight factor. Ironically you're doing exactly what you say I'm doing. You look desperate dude.
.t does not require line of site
It literally does. How do you not even know the mechanics of an agent you like? You're an idiot.
Go look it up on youtube random people have already made util lineups
All of which have the q explode within line of sight of the target. This is embarrassing dude you should stop.
Clove's decay has a large splash zone
*if the opponent is within line of sight :)
It will not be ww3 to create a lineup like you are implying
Never said it was you're attempting to exaggerate my point (that clove has objectively the worst decay ability in the game) in order to make yourself look less delusional.
If she is dead she can't heal
No shit Sherlock. If you're picking her for her heal then you're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far gone to be reasoned with.
Clove can do more alive then when they are dead
While objectively true, this misses the entire point I was making. She is balanced around having impact after death. Because she can still smoke after death the abilities she can use while still alive are weaker. If you gave omen her smoke after death ability he would be busted. She isn't busted because her other util (heal and decay) are absolute horseshit compared to every other controller in the game.
Again with you not reading, as I said before, being able to use clove's abilities after death is a perk
This is ironic because I literally said this. You're scrambling son. Keep intentionally misinterpreting my words.
On top of all this Clove's smokes regenerate. She can throw out more smokes a round than any other agent.
Her smokes have the same cooldown as Omen's... They also don't last as long. How stupid can you be? You literally need to invent another agent entirely for them to even be ok.
That alone is a situation where their kit exceeds other smoke agents
No. Unless the other smoke agent dies before using any of their util (not something any team on the planet plans for) this does not put her above the other smokers. She sucks at taking space compared to viper and omen. She sucks at holding space compared to viper and omen. Hell, she's even worse at taking fights than omen since none of her util actually helps her take the fight. Her ability to smoke after death is the aspect of her kit that makes up for her dogshit util. Unfortunately, since this is pro-play no team is going to sacrifice the ability to take space for the potential to maybe trade a kill and then maybe take the site and then maybe stall the post plant long enough for a second round of smokes. Any team would just pick omen and use the blind to take site an option that is simultaneously SAFER AND MORE EFFECTIVE.
Ironic you kept saying I don't know how to read while not know basic mechanics of your agent and intentionally misinterpreting what I was saying 🤭
sure u did that's why you responded by accepting the provocation 🤣
how dumb do you have to be to fall for this type of bait...
back to where? you're still in emea
no maybe youre just a masochist
many teams aren't going to spend time learning a new agent and creating new strats for new comps with these week by week games, which is a big reason why many new agents aren't being picked
a new agent not being picked can be because they are new. however saying that the only reason she isnt picked is because of she is new is dumb. ISO still isn't picked is it because hes new? Neon hardly gets picked and we know she's such a new agent.
Clove's ability to throw a decay mixed with any damaging util (shock dart, nade, molly, etc) can create kills without even seeing opponents, which is the best type of kill because there is no risk
It is objectively worse than a fade seize or practically any other ability that causes decay. The jank introduced by requiring line of sight to cause the decay inherently makes it less consistent of an ability than practically any ability in the game. This jank also means winging a clove decay/other util combo is inherently less consistent.
Best example is ascent A. If the team planted in front of gen, which is extremely common, then the decay practically has to hit directly on the spike for it to be effective. If it hits in front of the spike there's a huge chance it will just miss because LOS is broken by the elevation. Compare this to a viper molly, brim molly, etc.
Regardless when you're picking clove you're giving up such major util for no reason. Omen blind is the single strongest blind in the game. Viper util is global and devastatingly effective at dividing up large space. Even brim molly is a more consistent and universal tool than the clove decay. She objectively has the weakest util out of any controller.
You also do not have to plan on having her die to use her kit
To have her value exceed that of other smoke agents you do. Her kit is clearly balanced around the idea that she is going to be taking first fights and dying. That's why she has a heal. That's why she can res on death. That's why she can smoke after death. That is the entire conception of the agent. The reason her util is weaker than the other smoke agents is because she can still smoke after death. This is a dumb thing to build a game-plan around.
because the emea group stage is just a formality everyone already knows who is and isnt making playoffs
i mean calling morgan wallen country is like calling vanilla ice a rapper. technically true but no one takes him seriously.
all trash watch something other than shounen for once in your life.
MF there is no meta in solo q. jett gets played every practically single game she never got replaced. majority of my games dont have a viper unless its icebox or breeze. half my games dont even have cypher. people are just mad to be mad.
mf we're talking about solo q there has never been a time in the history of valorant where 5 agents every map has ever been a thing for solo q stop coping
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