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lol u ok bro?

lol u ok bro?

except SEN with every important tournament they play in. imbecile. who is even talking about acend here. deluded fnatic fan

At what point is it still "underperforming" when the team has come close but never actually won a tournament in valorant. Pretty much same with FPX. Pretty much the same with every team apart from SEN, who always seem to be able to stay afloat.

show me the receipts.

I don't know if it makes sense logisitically or with any other factors in mind, but can all teams apply for their Visas now (for december entry)? So that whether or not they qualify, at least their permits will be secured ahead of time?

OXG and BBL got the turkish fan buff. it's all good lol

I don't care for either argument. The same logic you used to justify fnatic not being good in stage 3 can apply to why liquid lost to giants the first time round.

They were running triple initiator with screaM on kay/o .

So for all the reasons you say fnatic aren't a bad team ( i dont thin they are a bad team), liquid's first loss to giants is completely irrelevant.

Moral of the story, get off this damn forum, no one really gives a damn about your reasoning, you're wasting your time, it's not that important.

I wish we could close threads when the first sensible response comes in like this.

Forget the explanation. A team that did not qualify for the event in the first place, should not be able to come in a and have wa shot at winning the whole competition or at the very least, knock out others who did qualify.

I wanted liquid to be there as much as any liquid fan, believe me. But this has zero competitive integrity. It's not about them Messing up the group or anything like that.

Riot will probably do a bye, and that's that. The tournament goes on without them fucking it up by having top EMEA team overcompeting for the region.

All good my friend

Liquid fan here, and I do not support this bullshit haha

100% agree. They really want 5 EMEA reps. And forget about competitive integrity of the whole circuit. Facepalm

Damn, this sucks. They worked their spot

XD I am a liquid fan and I support this.

Dead this idea and go touch grass

OP is off his meds. Bad idea

No. Please don't lump all NA/EU fans in the same bucket as the few retards suggesting an EMEA or NA team should replace an SEA teams spot.

The idea is assinine and if anyone needs an explanation as to why it's a bad idea, they aren't worth talking to.

Kind of a good point. Their win streak only came after they cemented top 4. And they almost went out to liquid

shocking half by derke, damn

I agree for the most part. but bruh

hard stuck silver csgo / top 500 val?

You've gotta be lying haha. If you're actually being honest, respect. But there's no way I believe that xD

VS. and riot "potentially" fffffffcked them with the Group seeding (or lack of)

EDITED. replied to the wrong dude, cba to type again.

Your assessment of EU ranked, bar the issue with language barriers is the same as NA ranked. I have played it, they're not that different.

Not saying this is a thing for them, but if I was a current CS pro in EU, aside from there being no reason to switch, I would be discouraged by the fact that so many players can look like mechanical gods in valorant. The invidivual mechanical skill gap is smaller in this game than compared to CS. That is extremely frustrating from an egotistical perspective.

hahaha

There's this feature called hidechat. Have a good day all.

I never cared for or followed overwatch. What did blizzard do (or not do) to fck it?

Absolutely. All 24 teams don't have to play at the same LAN either. They can do organised bootcamps / regional middle ground bootcamps and play out ESL Pro league style. and ahve a LAN for like the last 16 or 8 teams.

Lots of ways to make it work. Could be sick.

Scrimbux are like Instagram girls. Juicey, Exciting, You wan more. But they are ultimately devoid of substance T_T

they've achieved about as much as FPX have. You're lost

never argue with an idiot. People from a distance won't be able to tell the difference.

now we talking

do not argue with idiots, because people from a distance cannot tell the difference.

"facts"

proceeds to start throwing arbitrarily picked probablities at scenarios that "might" have happened.

I love this forum lol

you are hypothesising against a guy who served you with an actual fact. What the hell is wrong with you lmao.

If NA had same format as EMEA for stage 2, SEN actually would not have qualified because they got 2-0d by Andbox in challengers 2.

don't talk about how "reality works" when you are yet to grasp it yourself haha. You're just hypothesising how teams "might" have played if the format was different.

I don't subscribe to the whole "best teams didn't rep EU" narrative. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. BUT your argument is so flawed dude.

where is anyone saying this? aside from people rooting for team flair. I think it's generally accepted that right now NA LOOKS better. but LAN will confirm all.

who knows. alot of idiots on vlr.gg. Your take is more than reasonable.

Sen dropped maps to genG and rise. Then wentnon to win challengers. What's your point? Deluuuuusions run strong on vlr.gg.

Because they want to see cool, new matchups. Not envy 13-3 everyone in their group.

Because they want to see VS in elimination bracket, not "potentially" go out in groups because despite being top seed from their region, have a harder group than F4Q.

No one is asking for handpicked. They are asking for a little bit of common sense to be exercised.

What's the point in seeding if 3rd best team in NA has the easiest group (easier group than the top 1 seed NA).

What's the point in seeding and a random draw if the #1 team in KR is in a harder group than #2 KR seed.

Denial of this is purely delusional.

Dude it's shocking. I'd love to know what their thought process is for this. Seems like a lack of thought to me tho

Ya it's ridiculous man

no actually they did VS dirty. They're probably capable of beating those 2 EMEA teams, but the fact remains, they are the number 1 seed of their region and got put into a tough ass group. It's almost 100% that at least 1 EMEA team will make it out of that group. Same can't be about the Korean team tho

Why only Gold?

You're right. But the purpose of seeding is to balance groups and more importantly, reward qualification performance. So how are 3 teams that are clearly in the top 8 out of 16 all in same group. That is neither rewarding VS as #1 seed or creating a balanced group.

Good analogy.

come on man, don't be delusional. Acend knocked Gambit down to the lower bracket, which is arguably a more important game than the upper bracket final. I'm not saying they intentionally threw seeding games, but you're smoking something crazy if you think the team that tore through challengers to qualify for EMEA and sent the eventual EMEA winner into the lower bracket aren't good.

yeah man. a number of ways they could solve that group, but ah well. we'll see!