For those of you who didn't see / know / care. The finals were LAN, Acend vs Movistar Riders.

The production was well done and there was a crowd. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1204368169?t=1h40m54s

How dafuq did NA LCQ not manage this?

Love Español casting in val

In a way, I agree with you. but at the same time, we as the public don't really know what the actual targets and KPIs are that Riot want to see from the game in year 1.

For all we know, it might still be exceeding what they forcasted. There's no telling.

If we see Riot treat the game, the tourney circuit and the scene poorly in 2022, we can probably assume they're looking at Valorant as a flop (assuming they're not incompetent). If we see them continue to invest in the game and develop these things exponentially, then we can assume that all is going to plan on their end and they're happy with the numbers.

All assumptions though.

Yeah I think you need to read my post again. Not sure why you're replying to me with that.

If by "You guys" you mean the org owners in NA. It's simple

bigger names = more impressions
more impressions = more revenue.

Also there's a strong mentality especially in NA that leans towards picking "proven" players with a track record, rather than gambling on someone with potential. I mean most sports are kind of that way anyway. eSports is behind of course, but you can see it's changing, more and more academy teams. coming up.

I agree with you. I'm not saying he's definitely bound for a return to CS, but I'm making the case clear that him returning to CSGO is actually not a wild take when you factor what a competitive year looks like for tier 1 NA player who has the choice between both games.

If wages in both games are the same, then CSGO probably wins it on the money front anyway just because there're far more opportunities to make a bonus from tournaments.

nah it didn't. Only Iceland cracked a millie

LOL

and when Yinsu asked him what are his thoughts on playing GUILD tomorrow:

L1NK: "I think it's FREE... Like VERY Free"

yeah bro, like the dude above me said. Riot has fucked shit up, but EMEA is definitely NOT the most screwed region haha.

OCE, South Asia to name a few?

yeah dude relax. The Nitr0 thing if true only really applies to NA CS PROs.

If any current Valorant Pros wanted to return to CS with the insane level of competition to get into an EMEA team, all I would say is goodluck lol.

The difference between someone like Jamppi and nitr0 is Jamppi's pro career in CSGO never really took off, for reasons out of his control.

nitr0 on the other hand was solidified at the top level in NA and the NA scene is WEAK in CSGO, so he could actually find a team.

eSTRO SOLO. LEGEND

Consider this. He could always switch back to Valorant after a while.

Think about it from a Pro player's perspective, especially an American.

There are BARELY 2 competitive teams in NA for CSGO, with potential slots on those rosters opening up. This is an opportunity for NA pros to try and get a shot in CSGO.

Would you rather play the game that has more tournaments with substantial money available per year? Or would you rather play the game which pretty much only has 1 circuit that you're allowed to compete in and that you probably won't even qualify for its largest events.

LOL csgo is dying? Lil' bro, what are you smoking.

2.6M viewers during final of major. (even if it was HALF of that as we understand there has been a long gap since last major, it's still more than Val) And this is even with CSGO just being dominant pretty much only Europe

• #1 in Steam charts
• Player base growing year on year
• WAY More tournaments in CSGO than in Val. That's at all tier levels too.
• More money in CSGO
• Valve actually updated the game and will continue to do so. probably as a response to people hailing Riot for frequent val updates.

We all love Valorant here kiddo, but do not be delusional, it makes valorant fans look desparate and stupid. Nothing about CSGO is dying.

If you pay close attention, you'll see it's only clowns who hate on hiko.

VS also posted on twitter they're on their flights I think to bootcamp in EU

If there's any truth to this, I understand Giants players moving for money.

BUT - It's pretty stupid if they want to win anything. They're already a solid 4th team in EMEA right now, which puts them in with a solid qualification shot for international LANs next year. throwing that away would be very odd.

We will have to wait and see.

lmao, it's true and I love it for the sheer entertainment factor.

lol, aight

of all the org names people throw around and link with Sin, i think you're right, Faze is the only one that would pick him up.

LOL

that shit used to get me mad xD

i for one found his post hilarious and i'm inclined to believe he has a great future in stand up. xD

never mind him, he probably just learned the term "copium" and is excited to throw it around.

Agreed. Hopefully this thread won't be inundated with pre pubescent zealots riding for their game of coice crying about numbers.

This^.

Plus, the qualifying stages are quite comprehensive in a tournament like the majors. So really, final matchups should be quite sparing

haha, you're not wrong.

NA CS basically died a slow death. Couldn't keep up with EMEA. Team Liquid are the NA hope for CS but they went out in group stages of the major

Love this team. Great tournament

Hell, what a series!

Oh man, the Danes haven't properly arrived at the Valorant scene. But when they do, it's over for everyone else.

Wild theory and I love it

Back to heretics, sources. can't reveal

WP both teams. Liquid looking great yet again. I hope they have another gear they can reach into for champions

Why can't you just accept that the game we're all interested in has a tendancy to be random as fuck.

it's online. The event is a bit weird. it was pegged as LAN, but not all teams are there. AFAIK only GIANTS are actually there. and it's only 4 of them, davidp isn't there.

And that's valorant for you my friends.

LOL welcome back

I think you've got me confused with your momma

https://clips.twitch.tv/PolishedSuccessfulLyrebirdNotLikeThis-LfPyFUJf8G4R1lkF

Defend it^

LOOOL

making weirdo threads about a team you havent seen play in ages. #Rentfree

100%. People are so kneejerk and reactionary it annoys me. They look super good right now, but we've seen countless times that international matchups do not play out as expected, especially vs NA. People need to Chill, there's really no solid favourite for Champions right now in my eyes. And yes that includes Gambit

Liquid, VS, Gambit, and SMB before they fell off

That penguin stat made me spit out my coffee. Bravo xD

one of these days, people will learn to read the format of the tournament.

ScreaM,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

this. I am one of them

It's all good man. Hopefully the game is still attractive enough for third party organisers to host big events during that time you mention next year.

yeah bro you're talking about 2 different things.

+Shooting error while moving
+spray pattern.

He's so fucking clean

No one thinks you're hating on EU, you're invested enough in the event to make a thread about it.
Your first post seems like you're criticising Redbull for stuff outside of their control, rather than just "calling it as you see it". The main thing lacking from this event is on the production side. Only 1 english stream is a bit ehhh