man you have a very negative mindset wtf

Interesting, highly doubt Boostio knew about it even if that was the case though. He was just doing it for drama I definetely don't think he'd be the type of guy to do something like that out of saltyness

Doubt it tbh he doesn't have much experience yet, but in the future possibly

Noo it's sad to see ASE break up I feel like if an org bought them and they stayed together for a bit longer they could be a top contender for sure

Guard were the favourites? I remember seeing they had lower betting returns too

Doesn't mean it's not possible 👀

Viva plays whatever coach tells him to, and he still did very well tbh is there anything this guy can't play

💀

He cooked

Who's gonna tell him..

Yo come on we're waiting

I wonder if any TW players play exclusively in their own T2 league in protest of the idea

Nono definetely not. Singaporeans are definetely considered imports in China, but HK TW MC are all considered domestic. Not sure where you got that from

Holy shit who let him cook

I think Zero1 would make the most sense here since they don't have an IGL.

Yess TE will be there for sure

Cause zero1 IGLs for them I believe and plays smarter and more disciplined than monk

This was probably the best outcome for the players of ASE. A better org will pick them up and invest more into them

Whole world is not going to be watching it just yet, they'll get an english broadcast next year. Because that's when the official cn league will actually exist

I watched RA since they first formed and it's true that they had no success at first but it was evident they were already improving every match. I think it's unfair and a bit hindsight to say they wouldn't have had success later on anyway - especially since it was a new team who hadn't played with each other before. It's kinda expected that they will start slow then improve. And it's not like the players were bad at all, YiHao and Spitfires are both veterans - one who was on KONE (ex-2nd best CN team) and the other as a former teammate of KK. Then just look at where Mart1n and Viva are now, and they've only been playing since February which is insane.

That's already 4 very good players who can compete at an EDG-level, and have already done so. So I definitely don't agree that they'd be at an NIP level without the changes - and I think Mart1n and Viva's massive improvement would've happened either way - since you get players like B1ank, Kai & Lysoar coming out of nowhere. With that said though, yoman has been incredibly important as a very good IGL for RA, but I think even more credit should go to the KR coach. Without him I doubt RA would be top 3, but still very good - RA would invest into better coaching and maybe pick up a main duelist like Spring anyway. Sorry for the yap I have been rooting for RA as the dark horse since their early days so I have a lot to say, just kinda sad to see people think this team is just stew + yoman

I overcooked and burnt it

Bro just look at RA's history and it is not just a stew + yoman carry team. Stew has been inconsistent for RA he doesn't just carry every game. Viva on the other hand was by far their best + most consistent player during almost all of act 2

Don't underestimate the other cn players, you should've learnt that from Ardiss

What why viva to main duelist when he plays flex and spring is a duelist main??

Good bait almost got me

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/5c2155a3

Let me cook

NWG underrated

Nope, I copy and pasted the number and double checked multiple times

Nvm it was vlr glitching, it said you had 117373 posts and I was like wtf 💀

117373 / 437 = 268.58 posts/day

That's for the actual vct, I don't think that rule applies to this ascension. Look at how many other teams have more than one import and no subs

Dude how do you have an average of 269 posts a day wtaf do you spend your life on here

Wym they beat both RA and FPX lmao

Not really theres people like me who rather spends their time scrimming, competing in school esports, other tourneys (redbull etc.) instead of grinding ranked - its a much better use of my time. The same reason why you see many pros don't play much ranked

Not a great org

Oh I see

their roster is actually very good, all players are individually skilled but there are some issues with coaching (I think more so than just pure chemistry issues)

You don't know how big the val playerbase in CN is rn do you

Honestly there were some rumours that RA won't be in franchising and I might believe them tbh

My guy do you have dementia, franchising was not long ago and a direct example that it is never about the roster and more about the stability and money of the organisation. If EDG were struggling internally they would not be in either, why do you think OPTIC are not in the Americas league

they really haven't lmao

It's gonna be Tokyo all over again

It's gonna be Tokyo all over again isn't it

ffs I want to see EDG vs DRX for once come on

Chichoo ngl

nt EDG :(

coach (who used to be coach of ex-2nd best team in CN) left

I agree, it doesnt really matter what it is as long as you're both enjoying it. That's why the people replying to you are virgins, need to stop hating on everything and be more open minded

EDG Yue incoming

加油 (Jiāyóu) - Come on!

what were they playing before?

Both chinese and english (Berlin calls in english for Autumn)