where are they now? being consistently top tier for 3 years is better than being the best itw for a few months
sure, aspas can't be compared to someone like s1mple of faker (no one can since the game hasn't had enough time) but he's the most qualified. if you think peak is all that matters then do you think yay is the goat of valorant? demon1 is the goat of valorant? if another player shows up and has a 1.3 rating for 2 years then I'll say they're better than aspas, but for now he's the best of all time

he didn't have a peak as high as them but he's been more consistent than the majority of the people on that list and if you average out the stats he'd be above them + most of the people on that list are there from 2022 and 2021 aside from the fnatic players who were dominating in 2023. 2022 was aspas' rookie year, it's much harder to get these stats now (even demon1 who arguably had the highest peak in the game is near the bottom of the list)

what? aspas performed great in most events too

I think it says a lot if you have to point out that he wasn't bottom fragging
he was... second bottom frag, on one map. also I don't think sacy is indefensible either, in 2023 the entire roster aside from zekken was inconsistent/bad so I wouldn't fret over his performance. in 2024 though? he's clearly under-performing.

also "lev team with horrible coaching" why are we acting like lev are suddenly playing strategically great? they're the same old lev but their players are a bit more consistent mechanically

maybe not, but if he's bottom in all 3 then there's certainly a pattern

bait or retardation?

falls off a cliff = top 10 rating regionally despite having to adjust back to playing flex

c0m when it actually matters:
https://www.vlr.gg/348064/gen-g-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r1
https://www.vlr.gg/348459/leviat-n-vs-t1-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r2
https://www.vlr.gg/348461/fut-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r3

I'm right here

me after c0m has one good game per 10

I actually think icy is a good player, he pretty much plays perfectly and has good aim when he gets the chance to take fair duels. better than ardiis' form in 2023 imo

is like watching a buffed version of 2023 NRG, you just know these frauds will collapse the moment their strats go slightly awry

he was good in challengers, people act like he got carried to the ascension win

normally I'd think it's bait but knowing sentinelmain he's just retarded

wild seeing lev fans come out of their hole after a map win, you guys think they actually have a chance of winning champs? kkkkkkkkk
also the people suddenly acting like c0m was getting undeserved hate, this guy has mediocre aim and decent utility (and are we forgetting his performance in split 1 + shanghai?) you can replace him with any of the tier 2 recon players and they'd likely be better. it's easy to look "good" when your whole team is showing up and performing well, the moment they stumble you'll see him back at the bottom of the scoreboard every game as usual

americas fans just hype up whatever team beats their favorite, it's a sort of coping mechanism where they like to believe that the other team is insanely good rather than that their team is garbage

I hope sen is in the same group as TH, I'd be more assured knowing there's a free win ahead of us

wild seeing lev fans come out of their hole after a map win, you guys think they actually have a chance of winning champs? kkkkkkkkk
also the people suddenly acting like c0m was getting undeserved hate, this guy has mediocre aim and decent utility (and are we forgetting his performance in split 1 + shanghai?) you can replace him with any of the tier 2 recon players and they'd likely be better. it's easy to look "good" when your whole team is showing up and performing well, the moment they stumble you'll see him back at the bottom of the scoreboard every game as usual

cook that br*t

flair

s0mething is the most overrated duelist of all time, bum just sits with an op and baits his whole team on attack then hope they hit his site on defense

curry was an ex tier 1 pro who played for c9 per-franchising and played badly. he also subbed in for C9 in red bull homeground in the recent off season and did quite well. nonetheless he's still 10x better than tarik as a sub (both dogshit though)

TH and gen.g would show sen what real finalists look like

both teams play in a very similar way but G2 has more firepower than NRG 2023 so they seem more consistent/stable

emea higher average placement in shanghai than am0ricas but go off 😹

choked against a tier 2 team (EG) instead kkkkkkkkk

the only fluke was sen's madrid win 😹team is so ass they didn't even make the next regional playoffs (and wouldn't have made champs if not for the charity slot)

nah it could be 3

players in ranked are given "chances" in tier 2 though, you can't expect to go from ranked to franchised right away. that's not how the system is intended to work. the whole point of tier 2 is to give players a chance to prove themselves, it serves as the pipeline of talent for tier 1

yeah all valorant podcasts are boring as fuck, I refuse to believe real humans find that shit interesting

I don't think he was dropped cause he's bad/they have issues with him, demon1 is just better

precalc? this ain't america, he aced his rocket science final

I was on a call with chronicle and he said his son has been sick, are you okay now?

yeah we've been hearing about "sen's a game" since their madrid run and we still haven't seen it, maybe it's time to accept that this is their normal level

good thing babybay became a caster otherwise that bum was never touching a tier 1 stage again

while whipe? NA education at its finest

damn bro spoke my mind 🗿

very mediocre, does anyone actually think lev, sen or kru have ANY chance of winning champs? G2 is the only team that has a chance and even then I don't favor them over gen.g/fnatic/heretics.

what do you think about mwzera trembo? did you give up on him? stopped doing tricks on it?

"career game from bang"? boostio was also 5/20 and asuna 14/21 on ascent btw, even if bang had a career game it doens't justify losing like that. not to mention that it didn't even go to map 3 😹 I think a more fair conclusion is that a 100T is garbage and sen even more so

my bad, I should've put them at their rightful place at the bottom

is this your first year watching valorant?

insane since shanghai? did you even watch the games? if insane means losing to loud and furia then 100T are certainly insane alright

sayf aspas t3xture all clear him

idk about so silent, those guys probably got the biggest egos in the whole NA scene

I thought vitality was never gonna truly amount to anything long before they beat heretics, props to them for qualifying to champs since that already exceeded my expectations but they're not doing shit there

been hearing this shit for years

there is ZERO chance vitality place top 3, if vitality places top 3 I will never speak on this site again

maybe I'd raise them up a bit, but none of them will go above the teams you named even if they win the game

(excluding CN teams since I don't watch those bots)

gen.g
fnatic
G2
TH
Vitality/Leviatan
DRX
PRX
FUT
SEN
KRU
Talon