Teams will always play to win, a single elim format doesn't change their mindset over a double elim format which is what you implied by saying "if it's one match from going home then they should just win which applies to all team so you cannot say it's unfair". There's no sense of desperation that will make teams perform better/worse in the moment, they will simply just play to win like always, you are spouting out bullshit dude.

This year's tournaments are really not that different from previous years at all too... Masters is Masters and Champions is Champions. This specific Masters Madrid is the only event that has a single elim qualifications format... Masters Shanghai has qualifications that's double elim... Hell this Masters Madrid might even be the only Masters/Champions event that will EVER have single elim qualifications.

You are too upset to understand what I'm saying :/

Read the post again??? If you wanna assume lies then so be it idk what to say.

You really, really can't compare the NBA to this for a lot of reasons dude, they play a completely different game with a single big tournament with a playoffs format that has been the same for a shit ton of years. I get where you're coming from, but I'm saying it again that a Masters/Champions qualification event has NEVER been single elim until now. Take it as you will.

How old are you then genius, you edited out the proof a while back. You will never be taken seriously on this site :)

So you think single elim brings the same competitive integrity as double elim and that GENG should've won Masters Madrid, PRX should've won Champions 2023, etc etc. You're stupid :(

Double elim deserves to be implemented for Masters/Champions qualifications, it's been like that since the first Masters :(

Teams aren't gonna be playing any differently if it was single elim or double elim, they'll still play to win, what do they get out of purposely losing? You're coping :(

nobody said GENG is a bad team...

He's a well-renowned clown on this site for his SEN meat riding and unreasonable hatred towards NA teams like NRG. That link I posted used to spread around a lot whenever he was mentioned, he has also admitted to being 11 years old lol.

I know I'm right, anyone that can comprehend what I'm typing without some insane bias or blind hatred knows I'm right, it's fine to let them downvote lol.

Sign this buddy https://www.vlr.gg/316984/change-org-petition-to-relegate-emea-from-tier-1/#1

My point still stands, grow up :/

So you believe that GENG should've been the champions then... :/

You made an account just to be toxic for no reason... that's pretty sad :(

It was an important edit that deserved a bump?

masters qualifications deserves double elim... what are we saying.

Spreading the truth to everyone

he said nostalgia 😭😭😭

Demon1 was statistically the best controller in that tournament, you are cooked 😭

GENG embarrassed SEN in the UB and lost to them 2-3 in the final... you are gassing up a fraudulent format dude. If SEN didn't even qualify at all then I would still be saying the same thing.

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"excuses" ?

AceGamer 🤢🤢🤢 https://tracker.gg/valorant/match/a252f177-bb7f-461a-a353-65e2ba0aba74

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looks cool though

And that's since 2023... Look at 2021 and 2022...

Probably the biggest throw for an international GF, APAC doesn't deserve it.

LOCK//IN was it's own thing, Kick Off was for qualifications to a Masters. First event of the year hasn't always been single elim.

If you don't care about what I'm even saying then shut up what? I'm telling you something that's true and you're content with blindly calling it bait, like what I'm I supposed to do lol.

is this from CS

It's actually insane that what I'm saying is a hot take

To win a tournament with a big asterisk...

I love SEN too but this is by far the least creditiable Masters/Champions tournament. Only thing that comes close is FPX's ban for Masters Reykjavik. I hope they can show the world that they're really the best for Masters Shanghai though!

https://vlr.gg/322319/masters-madrid-is-a-fluke-read/

8 team tournament even though many 3rd seeds have went far in internationals (EG in Masters 2023, LOUD in Champions 2023, etc)

Single elim qualifications for Madrid even though that's stupid and it should've been double elim (if Madrid was single elim in playoffs then GENG are the winners)

Facts are there :/ https://vlr.gg/322319/masters-madrid-is-a-fluke-read/

If GENG won then this thread would've still been made, what I'm I crying about exactly :/

Would be as happy as they are if there wasnt such a huge asterisk on this Masters.

We'll see it in Shanghai because Split 1 actually has double elim playoffs, but you have to be stupid if you think double elim wouldn't have made the Madrid competition more faithful for everyone, SEN are literally champions again for the first time since the 1st Masters because of double elim.

You're treating what I'm saying as some sort of dumb excuse, the proof is there.

cannot say, but it's a certainty that the level of competition would be higher, and we'll see that in Shanghai because Split 1 actually has double elim playoffs.

"GENG are the winners if Madrid was single elim" = cope?

Kick Off should've been double elim... what don't we understand :(

And I've said it many times that I think SEN would've still qualified... :/

Slightly worse credibility than Madrid, also that's not even a Masters anyways.

Are you stupid or are you actually stupid, SEN are better than GENG and proved it with double elim, if it was single elim then the worse team (GENG!!!) would've won the tournament thanks to single elim. My whole point is that Kick Off WAS single elim, and that discredits the teams that qualified thanks to it.

You are defending my point. You are arguing with no one.

wrong thread I think

Single elim = SEN are gone, GENG are champions. Wake up dude.

What?

SEN flairs downvoting everything when SEN themselves, literally by themselves, proved that double elim is vital to determine who's the best. Anyone going against that statement is literally saying that GENG is better.

Single elim = GENG are Madrid champions. What don't we understand?

I think SEN advances but for the rest, no clue.

You’re making no sense, single elim favours winners that would potentially not have made it out if it was double elim, this discredits the entire Madrid tournament heavily.

Double elim is always the best way to determine whos the best over single elim, and it’s why SEN got the lifeline for it and showed everyone that their actually better than GENG…

You're not seeing my point at all, it's for all teams not just SEN :/

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Deserved loss, Valorant doesn't favour teams that choke that hard.

If Zekken had Demon1's run in Champions 2023 he probably would've said it.

Demon1. Flexed. 3. Different. Roles. Against prime aspas (literally the GOAT of the game), prime Less, and the best iteration of LOUD arguably. The same LOUD that beat prime FNC that won Masters in that same tournament TWICE. You are coping 😭😭😭

dude you are coping hard 😭

Demon1 flexed with 3 different roles in that series... what are you on about. What he did was objectively harder, stop the cringe lol.

Demon1 vs'd prime aspas, Less, and the rest of LOUD in the hardest and most competitive tournament to win in Valorant history and still dropped 101
The comparison isn't really the same