Why can't I change my vote, I put c9 in s tier accidentally as I assumed left meant bad.

Scream is a great player... as long as he isn't igling them into the ground 💀

You've gotta love the 99.99%, everyone's favourite fake statistic, along with 99.9% and 99%

If furia and mibr don't blow things up completely after how terrible of a season they had, that would be insane, tier 2 needs to be scalped by them

If the the earth was flat we would all be straight. Gay people exist therefore the earth is round. This is why some people used to think the earth was flat, because you would get persecuted for being gay. Obvious

Based.
Not you getting banned but being willing to say objectively true things that get you banned

When your favourite team loses in the lower bracket loses you don't cry and say it should have been triple elimination. They just shouldn't have lost as I say. Same applies for single elim. Single elim allows a team to at least show one of the best parts of their map pool. Single map only allows for 1 map both teams are average at. The Single elim is still a complete package whereas the stupid formats you suggested below don't show which team is better.

Yes, my point was that the rest of the year doesn't matter there, good for sen.

Edit: Just thought I'd clarify, I do still like double elim over single, it gives fun story lines like zeta running their way through the lower bracket

How is it a non competitive format? Just don't lose? Having pressure not to lose always sounds pretty competitive to me.

People put in effort before the year starts in their teams to be good. Sentinels and fnatic weren't good out of no-where, they put in a lot of effort behind the scenes. It not lining up with the rest of the year shouldn't take anything away from them. If teams didn't play as well cause they weren't as practised at the start of the the year, sounds like work ethic/skill issue on their part. Lockin and Madrid are both real events

Not a fan of your nicknames but this is great life advice. Skibidi toilet dudes *dabs .

Not a fan of your nicknames but this is great life advice. Skibidi toilet dudes *dabs .

Just did a placement year doing Web development, student

Lzz will have the shortened nickname of L lmao

Yes you do have not to choke, if not choking wasn't a requirement for winning, prx would have 2 trophies.

Yes you do know how good teams were at the time of lockin they played at lockin, Yes teams evolve but then it wouldn't be at the time would it? Whether it is representative to the rest of the year is meaningless, if they lose, should have put in more practise beforehand like sen and fnatic did.

Edit: also I like the way you debate this is fun🥰

07/2026

Nah bro you just have to keep trying🤣

Do you think your average negative iq England fan thinks about logistics, fans are stupid yet you still don't hear people talk about the limitations of the format.

Random agent select is completely different as players specialise in certain agents, single elim just means you play a normal series 1 time.

At the time of them playing, yes. You could say the same of masters Madrid and kickoff.Edg played pretty badly in masters Madrid but won champs at the end of the year, that doesn't take away anything from Sentinels winning.

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A4. Lockin had a single elim format. I'm not disputing the actual claim but how much it matters. The playoffs for the World Cup is single elim but no-one starts going "L format" because of that, it has prestige because every country has a chance to win. Lockin had every vct team at the time and they all had the chance to win, if a team lost but were apparently better, their team should have gone and won then shouldn't they.

Single elim just requires your team not to choke, the only downside is that the people who come second, third and fourth might be wrong as they may have been beaten by the winner previously.

If any team at lockin like Nrg Loud c9 or 100T should of won(I name these teams because you're an americas cringer) why didn't they, because they played worse than the team that beat them or crumbled

A lot of Chinese players still have to prove themselves, some have only had half a year because the teams started removing all the Chinese frauds.

-runner +suygetsu

C9 will see this post, and due to their off season policy of make a terrible team that only wins regular season games, they will pick up a braindead controller player. They will somehow find a way to drop xeppa and oxy at the same time. Classic Clown9

I think most people can agree that Aspas is the best duelist and Leo is the beat initiator. Usually the people who disagree are delusional and say duelist or initiator for (insert flair here) is the best(insert role here). "I don't know about other regions but Victor is the undisputed goat"- nrg flair. I think the zmjjkk love at the moment might be very much recency bias, no one put him in the best discussion before champs. Having said that, China could end up rolling in years to come

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There's only so much time you can delude yourself about navi I guess

I'm cooked, I instantly thought of the song rabbit hole

Watch c9 just pick up the hottest garbage from tier 2 when there are way better players waiting in the wings. It wouldn't be c9 without bad roster moves, somehow they'll find a way to drop oxy

They can say you don't have commitment

Apoth, redgar(depends whether he gets picked up again), vanity(people say he's great but name one team he led that was disciplined, I'll wait), GE

Urrm drx are still there

Brother he said sen played well, tmv is just eternally a hater(generally) and talks more about teams playing bad than teams playing well

Ain't smoking, just shock from the prx group loss. Sending me out of whack, I ain't changing though, this looks funny

So sorry, I'm a fraud

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/368516b6 it's time for the trace sweep

Would be really funny if China 3 seed goes in and traces all over the competition

In the universe where geng fell off, as in this one

Prx beat edg, won't just be drx

I know this, I don't think sen will win raze or no raze, I'm just pulling up the facts

https://www.vlr.gg/353187/sentinels-vs-cloud9-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w2/?game=173445&tab=overview they beat c9 on haven. Zekken was playing jett

Fnatic 2-1 kru
GenG 2-0 sen

Americas fans will be in shambles

Nah fnatic better beat kru, then I would get perfect pickems for group A

I'm hoping fpx sweep from now on

Ge fiytennnnnnnnng

Drx always win groups

Bring back ardiis, just to double down

-zellsis + zellsis -xeppa +xeppa -jakee +jakee sounds like a very c9 move. Have them somehow bring back leaf only to drop him after kickoff would also be very c9

Believe in drx, groupRX 2-1 incoming, then fnatic will meet them again in playoffs and stomp them. Such is the drx way

You also get more naturally occurring idiots because people who buy the blue checkmark(idiots) get promoted in the algorithm

Fuck

Sen and prx I the same position of being super hyped teams now in the lower bracket. I hope different things about the teams though, it would be super funny if sen win the first masters of the year, don't make the second and bomb out of champs twice

The main stream 💀