because it is a major... confirmed by Riot when they created challengers and masters format.

They won the first game WHERE literally Less had his best game EVER. Literally. As a team it was close on that first game. Meanwhile the rematch, Optic HAD every reads on LOUD. Hence they are better, and would win if they played 10 games and winning 7 of them

That's just Saadhak's COPIUM. They wouldn't have beaten Optic 9 times they play. Optic is just better, not just individually but as a team

no they weren't. Optic was clearly as day better

you're late...

This is basically how Regional match up is. Every team knows each other because they scrimmed a lot against the same teams. In comparison to international competition

Optic is their weakness

we have all this hype and then Fnatic just shits the bed on international stage.

yay easily.

this is the first yay has gone negative in the whole series since april of 2021. That's never been done by someone in this game

Optic was in the same spot as they were and still won the whole thing. DRX just shits the bed when it matters

no he wasn't... yay and nats were at the top in that tournament, as for yay... he didn't leave anything behind and rose even more and improved as meta shifts.

His peak was when teams weren't as strategic and as anti strat plays... No wonder in Berlin he got outperformed by players like yay the next tournament.

tarik (no), s0m (W), shanks (W), Yay (W because he's full of highlights on any pro in the game)

Yay is better

he dropped 30 against SEN who was at the top back then. So miss me with this shit excuse.

it would be considered fluke when THE NEXT rematch when Optic was at their near form, Xerxia got destroyed and no rust was happening.

Optic intend to have the an off day during their first match in a stage after for so long. They lost against RISE who they should beat and after that it definitely went to their favor as the tournament goes on. This goes the same way for Optic on LAN which was over 4 months since they played LAN and it was rust that got to their heads. As I said earlier, after their 1st losses they never go back after.

When yay played Jett it was at the top of the mountain performance, in comparison to scream on the same agent, it was great but it was no where near as insane as yay's performance in the same agent.

I hope you realize that WHEN OPTIC LOSES THEIR GAMES. Yay IS THERE TO frag out of his mind and do great things. This also goes the same way WHEN HIS TEAM WINS. The amount of consistency yay has individually is WAY more impressive.

"tenz is the goat" he fell off

disrespecting yay like that smh

braindead ass thread

bdog so far has been better than cryo but this could change in the playoffs

Optic is gonna go back to back

Yay>>all G2 players

and beating liquid is no longer a surprise... they got destroyed by Zeta.

esport charts is your guide there.

Cope... deal with it, even when Optic played Guard they had more viewers than other EMEA matches. you just don't have a clue how big Optic fanbase is

Zeta vs DRX did not get the same level of viewers Optic vs Zeta had... nice try

Loud vs Optic in their first match got more viewers than Loud vs G2.

"Optic is not a big name either"
3 spots in top 3 most viewed matches in Reykjavik were OpTic

Guild beats Liquid
They're better than Optic... yeah man. Liquid can't even get pass Zeta which they got destroyed by.
Beating Liquid is not a surprising thing nowadays

acting like Guard was even better than Optic... good job beating the fraud no.1 NA team. SEA teams couldn't even get past Zeta

is that why SEA wasn't even top 3?

the favors and odds are so little in disparity...

to add on to it, Crashies is a team player

Crashies' sova>>Sinatraa
crashies' flex>>sinatraa

Sinatraa is not as good as you think

Chamber is not mean to be played aggressive... Not even one of the high level chamber don't play aggressive. You seem to hate his playstyle because he destroys your team with it

LG being no.1 is recency bias considering who they played and hasn't even played C9 or Optic to test what they're capable of. I didn't even need to read the rest cuz I know it's gonna be recency bias all over the place

"he barely rifles these days" yeah because you ignored his performance last week which majority of the time he had rifles and was owning anyone.

they went from 10-0 to 10-1 and it's about to be 10-2

remove the OP on your comment then we're good

Tenz has never been better than yay ever since masters berlin.

That means he underperformed when it mattered the most

He is better, no matter how much you like. he's more flexible and not only that he's better in everyway possible even Tenz rifling is not as good Yay's

He had mid performance during masters berlin so...

When valorant was still at its newest with no teams having as much set plays, traps compared to now. it's insane how context matters. Look at tenz after SEN won masters. They completely fell off so did tenz and he often gets shitted on by util unlike players like yay who can find smallest gap to his advantage.

too bad tenz is no where near close yay

not only yay is the better player but also is a better rifler and a better OPer

they were good, they were constantly getting 4th place. but after acquiring yay they got over that curse.