Here my viewpoint, it very simple, i care about the players, the players on the team. If a player leaves, i wish them well but i don’t care after the leave, i just become a fan of whoever replaces that player(MaKo is the exception). Fan culture is different in diff cultures i get it.

this is what people say when they can’t think of the reasonable response but still wants to argue for the sake of winning an argument. Just pack it up already

for someone who just told me to stick to stats, it’s very ironic of you to tell me to look at stats of players. And also, i can really care less about the stats of players on teams that can’t qualify. Also, so you just gonna bandwagon to whatever to most successful korean team is. Yeah, alright buddy, be a glory hunter if you want, just don’t start trying to defend ex players of the team you stopped rooting for.

For one, the word “created” can still
be used for valorant, if he was the head coach to first implement it into a new game with lots of diff feature different from csgo, it cannot be exactly the same as csgo, but somewhat as valorant’s iteration of that playstyle, implemented by TERMI. But even then, you keep trying to stray away from the point, it’s actually laughable that you still haven’t actually attacked the claim i made. do you even remember??

quick: don’t look at stats or anything like that. Take a guess at who was PRX’s worst perming player in that series. You’d be surprised

Yeah, funny cause at the end of the day. Zest, ended up on the worst team in Pacific. Rb on the worst team in China. T1 qualed to shanghai without stax and couldn’t qual to stage 2 playoffs with him. That history you cling on to, has proven time and time again to be nothing that special, at least termi knows that, because if that old roster remained, we would’ve been a mid table team. Also, look at you, wearing an spg flair while preaching about the history of DRX, shameless

Yeah, the same PRX that got grouped at champs. Just give it up, everyone knows that team peaked at copenhagen and was never the same until they signed something.

Did you not previously say that termi was one of the people that created the style, or are you gonna backtrack again. Oh so you believe MaKo, BuZz, Rb, Stax, and Zest didn’t have to learn to play that way from someone(maybe their head coach???? idk) And you bring up old Vision Strikers is just another misdirection, cause i never once mentioned vision strikers, because we were literally talking about champs 22. You keep trying to knowledge test, as if that even makes a point.

The same PRX that also got dismantled by DRX, all b4 they added something and immediately became the best team in Pacific. The same PRX that lost to Team Secret, a team that barely snuck into playoff bc they beat a much weaker PRX squad??? That PRX?

Where the playstyle originated has nothing to do when Termi is the one that intergrated into DRX as he is head coach of the team.That’s literally common knowledge. Also, stop starting away from the point,

i never said he was the only one carrying, i said it was mako and whoever else wanted to turn on their monitors that day. AND LMFAO, don’t even bring up lock/in, they didn’t even play any good teams until they reached top 4

Plz, 2022 teams are not even close to the level of teams now. Look at all the top 2022 players and teams now. Pushing them does not mean shit, and. Don’t give me the bullshit that we pushed those teams based on player talent. DRX were notorious for their playstyle, that’s why they were good(+MaKo). Guess who created that style, Termi. It reaches a point where that playstyle isn’t enough to win and we have to bring in better players

For one, this should be obvious, usually stats are worse the the player plays worse, and when the players play worse, the team does worse. So obviously his stats are a reflection of team success; but team success is a reflection of player performances. Rb is a flex player. He was only the duelist for a large part of 2022 bc of the chamber meta(similar to how victor was the duelist in 2022 despite him being a flex) Flex players specialize in playing multiple roles. You can’t just blame his performance on having to flex multiple roles bc that’s literally what he’s supposed to don. THE OG DRX got top 3 ONE TIME. They were always 5th-6th. And guess what that one 3rd place was on the back of MaKo and whoever else wanted to turn on their monitor that day. And guess what, the player that has been consistently carrying DRX, is still on the team, don’t pretend like the other were even near his level. Ppl only recently started to hype BuZz up a lot when MaKo had to take a step back and igl. Otherwise MaKo is the only DRX player ever that is irreplaceable

i literally posted his stats in every international b4 in a separate thread, I compared his group stage stats to his playoff stats. And except for one time. There was always a significant decrease in nearly every stat. And even then, I still mentioned that it wasn’t completely his fault. Yeah, you forgot to mention that rb had his worst ever tournament in champs 2024. And you can’t even blame his bad performance on him having to flex a lot of roles at champs bc he only played 2 agents. I understand you like those players, at the time, i also didn’t like the fact he dropped rb, but you can’t just use nostalgia to fuel lies you made up in ur head

not even gonna lie, i want you to go back to that post and read what i wrote, I literally said it wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought and it mostly wasn’t his fault, but you still can’t deny he plays different(in playstyle and quality) in bigger games. If you read instead of just looking at the numbers i put and making assumptions, you would have noticed that part

Karon, also i didn’t mean to reply to you

a straight lie, didn’t even try to justify it, just a straight up lie

tbf, you can’t contribute all of that to just the coaches although they deserve a lot of credit. The deadass assembled the 4 best kr players that were on the market, and got a player like Karon from ranked. You can’t deny that the team has talent. Having better teammates will always improve your own performance, and the my happened to scout some of the very best

https://x.com/valo2asia/status/1849636181740486851?s=46&t=UpfWlpoVx8lr8dEqUmQyxw

Now I get to watch more DRX matches

yeah, he only stated they had no issues financially, doesn’t mean they can afford how much meteor asked for. They likely have a budget and meteors ask price went over the budget. Not to mention, Karon, t3, and munchkin all got the bag

athan is DRX’s you don’t know whether or not he’s good on a role or not since he’s only played 1 public match as a prospects player. Also let’s not pretend that people who literally get paid to play a game can’t learn how to play a new role over a couple of months

I kinda doubt flashback will be playing senti.

It seems more likely he’s gonna play initiator

kinda agree, but one thing to keep in mind, that just isn’t how valorant works. Things don’t always work end up how we think they should when you look at it on paper. So i think it should still be considered an overall downgrade unless proven otherwise

cool

nice, solid pick up by gen g

being a top 6 team in the entire world, in a game with tens of millions of players ain’t a bad thing gang

are you a fan of japanese val players in general bc of vcj. Because i thought gyen was a ranked player they picked up after he trialed with then

Best Overall Player:

Best Duelist:
Best scan initiator:
Best flash initiator:
Best Controller:
Best Sentinel:
Best IGL:
Rookie of the year:

Bangkok Winner:
Toronto Winner:
Paris Winner:

Team that will shatter expectations:
Team that will fail to meet expectation:

Team of the Year:

I think ur underrating DRX but its a better list than what most people have

Abyss has a lot of choke points tho. I think it would be better to have a dive agent

yeah, i saw that too, that’s why i thought he might play initiator, I don’t mind it either, I kinda thought it would be too drastic of a change to make Athan a scan initiator when he’s mostly been playing duelist

What roles are you expecting

I was thinking
HYUNMIN- duelist
MaKo- Controller
Athan- Initiator
freeing- Sentinel
Flashback- Flex

Although I wouldnt be that surprised if Flashback became the scan initiator and Athan became the flex

I doubt they would take freeing off Sentinel imo

Also slight chance MaKo changes role to what munchkin does(kayo ad viper)to help the younger players play more roles more suited to them.

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I think DRX, in for pacific, but it’s fine if you think not. An upset is bound to happen, one or 2 of these teams aren’t gonna make it despite high expectations

foxy9 is solid, and i think yoman is good, they will be just fine. Top 2 pacific imo

that sunset against gen g wasn’t his fault and i’ll die on that hill

Nah, he’s carried DRX for too long.

Won’t support his new team tho

I deadass said in the main post that it wasn’t nearly as bad as i thought and most of it wasn’t even his fault. ppl just looked at the stats i posted and assumed that is was slander, and if they wanna argue idc, it’s 2am and i got nun else to do

Now, lemme have a serious discussion since ppl still have this dumbass argument.

First of all, and this should be coming knowledge. losing does not mean your team played bad. So ur right with that atleast

Second, yes it’s true, even if your team is playing bad, duelist would generally have the worse stats, but that only applies to kd and for pro matches, rating. It does not equate to having low acs or adr. In fact, for one of the more aggro duelist like BuZz, having a low adr and acs can literally only mean 2 things. He’s either lost confidence and it not taking as much fights, or he simply isn’t winning his gun fights(whether it’s because he’s taking bad fights, or his aim is going through a drought)

Now, since my whole original point is that BuZz kinda chokes. I have watched literally all of DRX’s games for the last 2 and half years, multiple times, whether it’s reactions or just rewatching vods. It’s not only the fact that he plays worse in big games, he straight up changes his whole playstyle. Even this year, you could watch any regular season match, even one he played bad in, and then compare it to his champs playoff matches, and you will think it’s 2 different players. This is not an arguable thing, he plays worse. If you wanna say im wrong for saying stats isnt the way to prove it, sure, but you can’t say he ain’t a choker

We have a better duelist now, but just gotta warn T1 fans on what they have to expect. I ain’t even say he was ass or anything, just that he’s a serial choker

you could always close the tab

i’ll take it off permanently if t1 outplaces DRX at any event next year

yeah, the stats from the elim games that they won aren’t any better

i should really just pull up playoff stats in general to prove my point

i’m just getting tired of ppl saying we downgraded.

Also, i could care less about anyone but MaKo

only person on DRX if still give af about after they leave is MaKo. BuZz i could care less about

nuh uh

True, it’s not like the (arguably) best duelist itw isn’t known for having great stats despite his team not performing as well, up until champs at least. Also, attack side is the only side that exist in valorant, so all duelist do is entry for the team. It’s not like there is a whole other defense side of the map where BuZz usually op crutches and still doesn’t do all that well.

and Athan

honestly makes sense. That’s probably why Controllers are notorious for being the highest fragging role, and duelist aren’t. You’re right. Asking the duelist/(CHAMBER) not to go sub 200 acs is too much.