How is less inconsistent? Owned every match in Br, did amazing at masters 1, owned every match At CHAMPIONS (didn’t have a single match in which he wasn’t great) only bad tournament was masters 2 but his whole team was subpar. While nats did manage to have an average of ~15 ACS more than him, bro didn’t play a single international tournament this year, there isn’t a very good way to compare the two rn but currently less takes the cake

In 2021 saadhak in few months created a team and absolutely owned the entire BR scene, next year after his first international experience in Valorant he made an entirely new team and in 6 months was world champions, take into consideration that for most of this time he was having to play and develop strats by himself in an awful region. Contrary to popular belief in here bzka had minimal input in strats and worked more as a manager, so saadhak was working alone this whole time, he can also play most agents very well, and can frag and igl at the same time, name me one player that has a better case for being more valuable than him

I’m not talking about people’s perceptions, the controversies had a huge negative impact in his career (bro literally lost his spot on the team for it) and have hampered his potential

This one is more of a hot take and I’m not far from being sure about it, I actually really like this new liquid team but there’s a possibility redgar’s igling has become inefficient in the current state of the game. You can’t affirm for sure this team is better than M3C and you saw how they did last year, also Soulcas is pretty average, jamppi’s dedication to the game has been put into question several times and while sayf does offer a better agent pool than scream, I’m not so convinced about his gamesense and teamplay, feels more like he’ll be a very good solid player rather than the demon you guys are making him out to be. But then again the possibility of them clicking really well and having a permanent top 4 spot is just as high if not higher

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Facts!!!

Very good, will be the one saving grace for Asia most probably

I still haven’t understood what the whole situation with foxy9 and zest tho

Site’s dead so imma speak some facts so you copers can mald

Less>>nats
Saadhak is the most valuable player in the world
C9 is gonna flop, HARD, mainly due to vanity’s average igling
NRG is pretty meh, Ardiis is a solid player but he ain’t carrying those egoed up bots
100T is gonna be the doorholder for champions contenders, if a team can beat them they have what it takes to win it all, but 100T themselves simply don’t have a high enough ceiling to contend for it
Without the controversies keznit would be considered the best raze in the world
Liquid have a lot of potential and may end up having some pretty exciting runs because of their firepower, but it’ll never be enough
NAVI will always have the capacity to beat 90% of the teams because of their firepower and good cohesion, but won’t be able to beat the top teams who have a deeper tactical playstyle
Tenz will either have to change his entire persona or he will break and retire from pro play again, higher odds on the latter
It’ll be another year before Asia can produce a top team again, nepotism incompetence and lack of willingness to make changes have completely destroyed the region for this year

Doubt it, bro cashed in on andrew’s business so now he’s with the guy till the end

Idk bro, if I had to root for a team that insisted in keeping boaster in and I didn’t blame it on some dark magic shit I’d probably go full unabomber

It’s alright we got plenty of talent so we can win it all while sparing you guys some good players, god knows y’all need it

We’ll gladly take your money tho

Ah here we see a fine example of a “0head 580hamburguers weighting minion”

Better than NAVI but EMEA frogs will keep underrating br players because they aren’t playing against the 5head “good util usage” European players that couldn’t hit a head if their virginity depended on it and that will refuse to aim train even if they’re continuously going 4/14 in every match because their ego is only matched by their fan’s stupidity

What was I talking about? Oh yeah loud will own Cloud9 as well but people refuse to admit it because their braindead NA fans will be too busy jerking off to that one 3K their fav player got in his 20h daily stream in between malding about his teammates and “streamsnipers” because the only way you can be considered good at something in the US is by calling everyone shit and making a shit ton of excuses so that your 0head 580cheeseburger weighting minions won’t notice that you’re getting carried and have never done anything at all in your whole career. But who cars they won’t even compete because all of their players will be in jail or smthng after stealing billions from their fans in some scam called “3000 wee wee money maker ASAP easy gems for free”

Shit just got sidetracked again, but yeah loud will completely own.. uhh… uuuuhhhh.. are there any good APAC teams?

The EMEA bias is strong with this one

The open quals for the ascension league will be happening in january, so at least we’ll be able to watch some new teams before kickoff

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Damn bro you sound needy

Oh shit didn’t see this thread had already been made

Either way I believe cauanzin fits in a lot better as a replacement for Sacy than mwzera

Hadn’t seen you in a while

Saadhak revealed on stream that he tried to get mwzera in loud twice, when they first formed the team (I’m guessing to go in aspas’s stead) and now to replace Sacy, in both cases they couldn’t even get to talks because mwzera had already signed with another org

In summary: they lost, yeah Leo is a very good player with lots of potential, but no, by absolutely no metric can he be considered one of the best in the world. This whole argument derives once again from this Eurocentric view that just because a player does one well in EMEA that means he’s better than all of the international competition, and as we’ve seen with Fnatic as a whole, this just doesn’t hold true

Well he clearly didn’t do a very good job at it then cause they didn’t get too far

In 8 years you’ll be talking about Tenz the same way, fame and media do as much work in building someone’s reputation as a great player as actual achievements do

You’ve messed up the roles, it should be

dephh IGL < saadhak IGL
Tenz < aspas
Sacy > cauanzin
pANcada > Tuyz
Zekken > saadhak
Dephh < Less

Não existe isso de “só as esposas” sejam tretadas cara, qual a lógica

Most based and most biased are just the same person

Sacy said they’re going this month, idk if that’s really happening tho cause it ain’t looking like it

That damwon match history looking juicy

Pô mane toda thread q eu abro é tu falando merda, aí não dá

Se eu pudesse nunca mais via sua cara mesmo

Bro thinks he’s on the team

Japan needs to start importing more Russians cause holay

Forgot to add the 🧀🧀🧀

Talvez, apenas talvez, o teddy não seja um Deus jogador de valorant injustiçado e sim apenas um cara q fica gadando mina no Twitter e é amigo do noyn..

Alitmanus isn’t a baiter he’s just a kid who’s been radicalized after seeing too many montages glorifying war nationalism and bigotry at the sound of little dark age

Bro stop using this shit, I was going to use for my test last Wednesday and the thing fucking crashed because of high traffic

I failed the test, and idc I blame it on all of yall

SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO HAVE NRG TOP 3 AND NOT LOUD

Bzk é ruim.

Ai tu tá vira-latando de achar q só pq é gringo q é bom, C9 tá um show de horrores, NRG e a optic sem os dois melhores jogadores (Nsei pq que vc pagaria pau pra eles e n pra loud mas ok né), 100T é um time A tier mas não tem nem teto pra chegar em S.

A loud tem 3 campeões mundiais, q que os outros times tem? Um cheio de gnt q nem foi pra internacional em 2022, outro de playerzinho que caiu no estágio de grupos mudaram UM jogador e tá geral pagando pau pq o uniforme deles tem golinha, preciso continuar?

Não tem absolutamente motivo algum pra vc dizer q a loud n consegue bater de frente com os outros times, dizer q eles tão piores do q tavam antes ok, mas n tem argumento plausível algum pra dizer q eles são piores do q qualquer outro time no mundo

Today some EU frog said that Loud would be owned because cauanzin and tuyz wouldn’t be able to mechanically match up to someone like jamppi, it’s been living rent free in my head just because of how stupid that was

Não é esse o ponto, não to falando q o Sacy e ruim to falando q o time n depende dele nem perto do q vc tá fazendo parecer, loud pode perder um pouco de rendimento sem ele mas quem faz o time ali é o saadhak, muito mais q Sacy e pancada juntos

“Cauanzin e tuyz são novos, daqui uns 2 anos eles melhoram” aspas e e less são oq ent, tá duvidando mto da capacidade do saad de moldar e liderar esse time, o cara aprendeu tudo de como o jogo gringo era feito e ultrapassou eles em um mês, imagina agr q ele vai tá jogando contra a melhor concorrência do mundo constantemente

Sacy é bom mas ja não tem o mesmo drive, ainda é valiosíssimo para o time como um todo e acredito q a única coisa q possa fazer essa sentinels ser tier1 seja ele, mas pode sim ser substituído por esses mlks novos com esforço e o guia correto

Sacy só e o jogador mais valioso do Br quando ta junto com o saadhak, já o saad n depende dele da mesma forma

Lololol bro’s so bad they decided to put yay as igl so that he could copy FNS’s strats. This team is gonna fail, HARD

I saw the one using only vct matches as a basis, can’t you also make one using 2032 tourneys as well?

Bro’s trying to destroy EMEA from the inside with that username

Agreed, when franchising was first announced I said that 10 teams would be too much for EMEA to fullfil with T1 talent and that’s what we’re having right now, there’s some 4 teams that are way worse than the rest

But yeah as time moves on new talent will undoubtedly reveal itself, my critique about the “his utility usage excuse” is so that it won’t serve as a justification for terrible players to keep occupying spots in franchising that young talent are constantly vying for, just look at How long Fnatic and liquid kept their bad seeds and the boost both got whenever they replaced them with cracked out unproven talent

EMEA always coming in with the “yeah but his utility” excuse to defend their bots, that’s exactly what keeps holding them back from dominating this game like CS

Maybe, but most probably it’ll happen like last time and they won’t even face each other because loud won’t fall to the lower bracket like these EMEA teams

First of all, what success?

Feels like something’s been in every T3 Japanese team ever

A verdade é q Jonn nem no time tinha q tá

Nah bruh I’ll be there spreading hate and misinformation in every Fnatic game

Marved has been getting worse since Reykjavik, but you guys were so high off the copium you didn’t even realize it

Mazino’s been underperforming after this role change, why they didn’t just get an actual smokes player is just beyond me

Also why did they put taco on the raze and then keznit on the Jett, shouldn’t it be reversed?

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