How come no country in SEA can build a good team of 5 from one country? PRX has to use SG/MY/IDN/RUS in order to do well. Compared to Korea and Japan who can use their own regions players to build at least one good team.
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How come no country in SEA can build a good team of 5 from one country? PRX has to use SG/MY/IDN/RUS in order to do well. Compared to Korea and Japan who can use their own regions players to build at least one good team.
This isn't really toxic though. Its just a meme cause of the Plat Chat incident. Even the Japanese casters are clowning themselves cause they predicted Team Secret to win LCQ.
https://twitter.com/OooDa/status/1682327366234968075
https://twitter.com/StanSmith_jp/status/1682331060527595521
https://twitter.com/Smashlog_VR/status/1682329218947096576
Nah crow has a life game like once every 2 months. You can definitely find a player that can frag better and have the same utility impact. ZETA can actually contend for top 3 Pacific with a few changes. Like in playoffs, the games they lost to TS and T1 were super close
I don't think they deserve it either. I say Gen.G because I wanna see all 3 teams make changes next year. All 3 can actually contend for top 3 Pacific with a few changes
I wanna see Gen.G make it because I feel like if ZETA or TS make it they'll be satisfied with the result and not make any changes. Gen.G seems a lot more brutal seeing how they cut players after 1 game at Lock//In
EDG always loses these seeding finals tho. They were the second seed at both Lock In & Tokyo cause they lost to FPX/ASE
FPX can actually contend with EDG if they get a better duelist. Maybe acquire NTER's Spring?
The GE and TS players have talked about getting destroyed by whzy in scrims. The game will be close but I think they can win
if you're gonna bait apac, at least do it during their timezone
honestly, both teams were throwing. dk and bleed could have won way earlier
He's been grinding Sentinel in rank ever since Tokyo. Perhaps he's gonna change his role?
Would you elaborate on Laz? He carried Japan before Chamber came out, then he carried during the Chamber meta. And now he took up IGL-ing when no one else on the team wanted to do it. His stats definitely tanked this season but thats more cause he started IGL-ing
He has his highs and low. But can you blame him when he gets wrecked on the entry everytime because ZETA plays so poorly on the attack? They play so slow and don't take map control. Dep is bound to get destroyed on the entry.
Probably cause they event is held in Korea? And its cheaper to get Koreans cuz they don't need to spend money on travel and accomodations.
Isn't the contract period just for show? Previously Gen.G had Secret signed till 2026 as well but he was let go straight after Lock//In. I don't think the duration matters.
He only won 1 clutch? https://www.vlr.gg/184465/gen-g-vs-detonation-focusme-champions-tour-2023-pacific-league-w2/?game=119536&tab=performance
He was born in Korea, he just moved to the States young
Saya said on stream that they were comming in Korean but someone gave an English callout, then everyone started to comm in English. SInce him, Ban and Xeta are all used to English comms it just happened.
You don't think so? I feel he's mechanically talented enough to not get out aimed. His agent pool just sucks
Both Japanese teams just have terrible management. Xdll and Hiroron who recently won Challengers were with ZETA last year but they decided to stick with the same roster. JoxJo was literally a free agent in the off season but DFM chose to have Reita IGL the team. They also picked up 2 coaches who have no achievements whatsoever.
Unironically, the OG Absolute Jupiter in kinda destroying the Japanese scene. The entire team has been picked up for franchised when only Laz and takej can really hang with the best. They only thing most of them have is experience but its not like that shows in the gamplay.
You keep saying Team Secret 3-0ed Gen.G in scrims. Can you provide an actual link to the source? What is “look in their page”? Look at what page??
MSI is just a cooler way of saying playoffs. Each region has their own round robin stage followed by main event. The NA teams also don't face the Brazil/Latam teams till Ascension.
Not sure. Probably carpe or ban? I doubt the get rid of Saya and Xeta
Looks like they're adding iNTRO (ex. Gen.G) to the team
10th March according to one of the Korean casters
Singapore and South Korea has different military systems. Koreans can delay their service for longer
Agree to disagree. I think BuZz played his role as entry duelist well.
Who do you suggest they get? There isn't any IGL better than stax in Korea. IGLing is different from scouting a cracked aimer. Every region lacks top tier IGLs cause its an extremely rare skill.
They did intend to have him on the main roster. They were splitting practice time with Foxy9 but ended up playing with the original 5 because the coach felt he wasn't ready.
They don't need to drop anyone because there is no one to get. There is no better Korean IGL than stax. Unless glow comes out of retirement, stax just needs continue to grow as an IGL. Players like FNS has been IGL-ing for many years. stax just needs time.
Also BuZz is definitely not the worst player on DRX.
This is why I don't think Foxy9 will be the solution for DRX. Yes, he is mechanically skilled and will be better than Zest aim wise. But Foxy9 is going to run into the same problems as BuZz when he tries to entry.
Stax just need more time to grow as an IGL. If he gets better at mid-rounding or adapting mid game, like FNS or saadhak, DRX will improve a lot more
What does winning Split 1 get you? Is it just prize money?
He was always good at Raze since he played on Nuturn
Hard to say. Gen.G looked way better than when they played ZETA.
Also not sure how ZETA will deal with the Chamber nerf. Dep & Tennn needs to really step up since Laz isn’t going to play a carry agent
That could be an option. But Neth just started IGL-ing so there's still questions whether he can lead against tier 1 competition.
Edit: Also, Neth is CR's Valorant poster boy. Buying him out from CR is not going to be cheap
They don't really play the same role tho. And even if you replace Tennn with Meiy, do you really think that will bring ZETA over the line? To consistently compete with like DRX?
Meiy might be performing better in Challengers but he's also playing against worst opponents. And even in CR's games, its not like he's carrying every game.
Now thats just false. ZETA would also be destroying the challengers league if they were playing in it.
Who do you get though? Keeping the roster full Japanese, there isn't really much options. And adding foreign players cause language barriers.
Meiy for Dep? I don't really consider that an upgrade
Genuinely, who do you even get to upgrade ZETA? The team seems to want to keep a full Japanese roster which I respect but there really isn't any upgrade for the players except for crow. And crow is their IGL, so its hard to say how much he contributes to the team. If you upgrade crow to a better fragger, it'll probably affect their calling and gameplay
I understand the org is upset they didn't get a franchise slot despite investing in the scene from the beginning. But they should take that frustration up to Riot, not on their players. Not allowing their players to go to partnered teams and restricting their careers is just childish behavior imo.
Lakia could trial for Gen.G & T1 because he was contracted to IGZIST and he was only on loan to DK for LCQ. He only recently signed to DK to play for Challengers.
And they let t3xture go to GE because they are not a Korean org. Reporter Bo said they didn't want their players to go to rival Korean orgs. Even Gen.G's coach bail said that he wanted to get t3xture and exy but there were difference in opinions between the orgs, which I assume is DK setting a high buyout on their players.
what is with solo's obsession with breach on bind? that shit never works anymore, it ain't early 2021 anymore
Since Korea has always been known as a one-team region, what are your thoughts on the other 2 Korean francised teams? After watching both teams play 2 BO3's and lose, what are your expectations for both teams? Not just in Brazil, cause its hard to judge single elimination, but also in the Pacific League.
Personally, I was more impressed with Gen.G, especially since Meteor played with a wrist injury and they were playing Habor (which is troll af). With the Chamber meta over, hopefully eKo can move to full-time initiator and Meteor can play the duelist.
T1 was extremely disappointing IMO. Not sure why Saya was playing full-time Neon and why Xeta is on Kay/O instead of Sova. And if they intend to keep Carpe, he should honestly move to play smokes. Hopefully they improve a ton if not they're gonna lose to Furia and be in the bottom half of the Pacific league.
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