its tough to come back from but theres always a path for you if you work hard

yeah i think so!

this bothers me too a little. losing with upper final advantage just means u choked hard asf

i think the best solution is creating a gap between lower and grand final (at least one more day), so the lower final team can at least prepare their other maps more because they can predict which ones will be banned

this way the upper final team still gets their deserved advantage but it becomes less predictable

uh yes thats what it says there!

not gonna listen to tmv but i think shes good

what are you on about
https://www.vlr.gg/268778/demon1-receives-champions-2023-vlr-gg-mvp-award
https://www.vlr.gg/235246/alfajer-claims-masters-tokyo-vlr-gg-mvp-award
https://www.vlr.gg/183419/leo-awarded-first-vlr-gg-mvp-award-at-lock-in

they were all given the mvp cause they had highest rating on winning team

dw ill throw on the tsm flair after gonext win

it was given to kangkang via a vote of vct related peoples

was it for the final or the whole tournament? if anyone knows

usually we always considered the mvp to be the one with highest rating, or at least i did cause i thought itd be consistent that way, but now im conflicted cause theres a vlr rating mvp and a new voted mvp which are different players

na media so cringe always

aspas was also never the best on his team during any of his trophy runs.

you do raise a good point tho, thats why i really look up to players like tenz who have been an mvp before. there really isnt a clear goat at all, they all have flaws yk? i just think all things considered it should be chronicle

the best finals performance oat

i dont think hes the goat, but winning a champions and playing the literal best game ever means a lot to a lot of people

chronicle, you can look at trophies, stats, or watch the game with your eyes. it all points to chronicle

even in this champions, in playoffs chronicle is highest rated player, even while on a mid team

i think he gets too much hate but hes not the goat

yeah u got it

he just picked china every game, good strat

he also like went around instead of hopping straight on tho

so true bro

#TSMWIN #GONEXT

ngl i think he did have time. didnt matter tho thankfully. couldnt imagine losing a champs that way

if you quit vlr i can

do you think smoggy could have won if he got to bomb faster? he kinda fumbled the path a little idk

https://clips.twitch.tv/SincereTentativeSpindleLeeroyJenkins-3l8jEnzTG8kakyI5

there it is

probably the shock of seeing the best performance ever

when has aspas ever played as good as kang kang in the final

.96 kpr is cool but kangkang had 1.07

age isnt everything, ange1 still looks alive when he plays, he reacts like hes 30 still

boo im so scary haha

okay sorry for bullying you

hereshits keke 0/4

insanely true, boo nerfs lithuania to the ground

so true mortadelo, people always misuse 'coping' it makes no sense sometimes

ohh thank you. i would call aspas some things but not a choker, in the winning map in champs 2022 he was mvp

cheers lad 👍

what does popcorn maker mean

-boo
+poised or someone else doesnt rlly matter

So clutch from him

koi, tsm, gonext probably

heretics lost both those AND they lost 2 regional grand finals this year. 4 chances at a trophy

we all know it was a crazy performance, he has the record for bo5 kills, but i think it becomes more impressive when u look into some specifics

this was a short 5 map series, a lot of the maps were pretty short and kinda beatdowns, kangkang managed 19+ kills every single map, with 22+ on the first 4. some of those first 4 maps were as short as 17 rounds.

he had a kpr of 1.07. also 26 first bloods and 26 first deaths is nuts. took .50 first duels a round

when zekken had 101 his kpr was .92
when demon1 had 101 his kpr was .96
when t3xture had 105 his kpr was .95
when aspas had 101 his kpr was .85
when valyn had 101 his kpr was .85 (still nuts as hes igl and controller ofc)

his kpr was so much higher than all the other great bo5 performances

kangkang champs grand final might be the best and most clutch series ever, i couldnt watch it live tho so i cant say

They went all the way kinda, just lost at the end

he has highest vlr rating, idk if thats exactly it but thats what i think. for all mvps the mvp had the highest rating on the team, although in 2021 i know there was also a team vote which zeek won, so maybe it was that.

vlr mvp is chichoo tho, vlr gave out mvps in 2023 and it was by rating too

berlin

4 grand finals in one season, lost all of them

its chichoo

yes, they bombed out 0-2 tho

i doubted them this tournament but i had them winning champs 2022

Same

ill take it for 5

i never want him to get buffed

trash team, mid players, fluke kickoff, and such

mvp can change in the final, smoggy can def take it

geng was in back to back final too.

i think if heretics win theyre the best, if not its hard to say