I think it's arguable and you could make good cases for them both

I am aware that KOI and TL are worse.

They are not better than M8 and BBL is arguable

I think that GiantX would be better than KOI, TL and possibly BBL. I only said BBL because I think that would be a close game and you could make arguments for both teams. KOI would get stomped and I think they're better than TL.

I already mentioned KOI and TL. I don't think that they'd win against M8

They're running owl drone fakes against a cypher too like wtf

The only other team that maybe they're better than is BBL

All the other teams in EMEA would beat them

I have faith that nAts and Sheydos can make a recovery yeah. They still have their highlight moments

Have you watched them play?

3 of these guys are in the 3 worst EMEA VCT teams

nAts (Team Liquid)
Sheydos (KOI)
Redgar (GiantX)

and another one is competing in tier 2

wut happened

2. FUT
3. Team Heretics

cNed was one of the most impactful players of 2023

You're funny

cN0d had more bad games last year lol

Both of these teams rely so much on set strats and I feel like when things go wrong, sometimes they don't entirely know what to do

So reactionary what the fuck? You can't have 1 bad game without VLR dogging ur ass

Noted

When EMEA has 1 clear best and most dominant team in FNATIC = Boring
When the top pool of EMEA player each other close and there isn't a clear best team = Boring

??

Fr get him over Lothar

How does that make it boring? NAVI look good

DRX have consistently made international events since the start of the competitive scene. Ya'll were dogshit for two years and are riding of off the hype of a Masters tournament with 8 teams, which had a terrible format to qualify.

This is why we don't let Sentinels fans have opinions lmfao

2nd and last place get the same trophy, but this game isn't all about trophies. If you consistently make international events, you're going to have a better reputation than the team that's staying home spectating.

Also, the five at Gentlemates have been together for longer than the five at DRX.

My point is that Gentle Mates are within the bottom five teams of EMEA. Nobody fucking cares about your chants if you aren't gonna go to any international events this year.

I think that stylistically it's a terrible matchup because KC love playing in a setup heavy sorta way, and I think that if there's any team that can dismantle that its NAVI but it'll be close for sure.

NAVI 2-1

Gentle Mates are better than BBL, KOI and maybe GiantX and TL. That is it.

Chants won't do shit when you're in the bottom five of EMEA

They're throwing rounds because they're trying so hard to close out the series. Wtf was that Sova ult lmfao

Sure but they're making the micro plays and switching up strats which they hadn't been doing in their previous matches. Their constantly switching up viper setups, they're shooting amazingly and they have good util combos. Good match for confidence too

global esports wasted their money on that fraud though! :D

literally his entire DSG team hates him lmfaoo

cry more? none of those players are doing anything of significance right now because they're all equally shit lmfao

Of course it was his decision to join a tier 2 team dude nobody said it wasn't, but I doubt he thought he'd receive the level of hate that he did and rightfully so; majority of it was a gross over reaction.

You literally are missing the entire point of this thread, YES! we are aware that he is performing badly but the mental game is a massive factor of that.

Previous igl kind of blames him for getting fired too

This has happened on previous teams before in order to provide comfortability for certain players and such, but ultimately that decision comes down to coaching staff, and have the coaching staff been criticised? No. Ya'll just wanna fuel your massive hate boner for Yay because you have nothing better to do lmfao.

wait what the fuck lmfao

where is skrossi

I think you are forgetting a very important factor though, and that is.... believe it or not! Not everybody is the same, not everybody can tolerate the same level of hate and regardless Demon1 does not receive the same level of hate as Yay

WHOMEGALUL

literally who the fuck cares he was the best player in 2022, who wouldn't have an ego. lmfao so parasocial for what

he made like 2 comments anyway

Yay literally performed badly in a few games of Tier 2 in a team that was destined to fail because of it's lack of structure. Did you see the coms videos from DSG, it looked like a match of premier.

People were quick to pit all of the blame onto him and he received an overbearing and unwarranted biblical wave of hatred because of it.

Ya'll weren't making these threads when RRQ lost that 2v5 though?

The whole world shit on him, and he performed badly because of that. Thank you for proving my point, he adds to the track record of pros that crumble to an unwarranted level of hate and criticism (although I think SkRossi was slightly deserving of SOME criticism)

The mental game is a fair reason to justify the underperformance of some players.

ONE example you fucking tart(I literally said it was the only example I could think of too) and it took him a whole year to come back from it; him and Kyedae even talked about how much it weighed him down.

Aspas did not recieve the same level of hate as Yay. Yay has whole social media accounts dedicated to dumping on him.

brother what are you saying

They will have nowhere near enough time to fix it all

There's far too much that they need to work on

There are a very small pool of players that meet the same level of criticism as Yay. Hello?? Honestly the only other player I can think of was TenZ last year.

They're both dogshit and they won't do anything this year so who cares

This is a website for Valorant eSports in general lmfao. I don't wanna talk about yay because everything that you could say about him has been said 1000 times before.

If I were new to Valorant and you had told me that this team had 2 title winning players I would actually laugh in your face

Literally none of these teams look even okay

dude LMFAO

TYLOO, All Gamers and Nova eSports exist

There's a whole tiktok account dedicated to Yay?