That was before the riot friendship shirt. NA had crazy beef with SA now we best friends
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That was before the riot friendship shirt. NA had crazy beef with SA now we best friends
i agree
but a all apac final is tragedy
crazy that we have to say that now
imagine saying that in champs 25
they need to save the world we CANNOT allow a apac v apac final
Say that to a jett or raze flying with bazooka and knives
Youre gonna lose pretty much every 1v1 with a ult tho
Its hard to care about FNC vs Liquid outside of EMEA cause liquid never does anything internationally
Loud vs Fnatic was a great rivalry on 23 sadly Loud crumbled
Which is why i think its fair to play contact and try to keep util to an extent and why i want to buff initiators
But normally when yoru does have that kind of unpunished space the opponent die with the util anyway so now they have no util + man disadvantage
And if they do not die normally it is just one or two pieces of util max to take the yoru out, they would still have for execs: 1st example i said astra fake star, they had enough time and it would come back by the time they wanted to hit site again + jingg had full kit again; 2nd they would take site and still have leaf util + astra ult; 3rd example a single flash or wolf and double peek would do and the rest had full kits, etc. it would be util disadvantage yes but it would still be manageable specially with rechargeable cycle
It's just easier to talk about it post factum but in game it's completely different
Agree with this tho so i might just have a biased x-ray-based opinion lmao
In any case its not like Riot is reverting this decision so guess we'il see how it goes from now on. At least they did it right after a masters and not right before it
"does anyone care about the lower final of a international'
Well lets look at some situations from yesterday game because it depends
https://youtu.be/Q5-jDQhlYTE?t=2217
Something takes a lot of space on C while G2 tries to take A site, then they decide to come back while he throws his tp. Having seen chamber oping on A long and seeing fade and omen on A they should've suspected Yoru was on C advanced specially since he was playing a lot there; Yet they tried to play contact and probably didn't think he was so advanced. It happens but a jump peek + fake star would already make something's life harder and force him to use his last tp; Jawgemo also had a flash. Something might have taken one anyway on the jump cause hes mechanically gifted but it would be way harder and a average Yoru likely wouldn't
https://youtu.be/Q5-jDQhlYTE?t=2475
Something holding a angle, misses the shot here but the wall was also bad. Forces him to use his last tp (He used it before for info gatering on double doors that would've been used regardless of the timing of the tp) but they could also use the flash. Babybay had long information already so Something was either not on the site or holding DD
https://youtu.be/Q5-jDQhlYTE?t=2560
Holding DD again, just a nice angle and innocence from G2,then leaf just walks in with no util (a flash would force a tp again)
https://youtu.be/Q5-jDQhlYTE?t=2922
Leaf ults to heaven, they suspect they are there, the tp allows him to stay there get the kill and go back. If Jingg flashes there he gets the kill or force the tp once again
https://youtu.be/Q5-jDQhlYTE?t=3468
PRX fights mid and F0rsaken goes down to a pick because he gets comfortable with the tp; Babyday dies likely trying to reposition while the viper wall goes down and leaf haven't put the wall yet which is unlucky BUT waiting for leaf's wall and flashing through it while leaf holds DD is a option to force the tp once again since jawgemo was pressuring on the other side
Of course this is all hypothetical and is easy to say now looking back with xray; Not flaming anyone as they are much better players with much more knowledge on the game than me, but i do think theres a lot of innocence going on regarding the space yoru takes as its shown on the clips. Boils down to just having more suspicion of where the yoru is and using util better/less contact. I do agree the rotation is a problem as this would require more intricate fake execs/rotations and this is harder to pull off
i disagree but i think its a reasonable nerf to have, like i said its a hot take. But 15 sec? Too harsh
I disagree as i think there were ways to counterplay the yoru tp specially when he's on defense. But a nerf on that is still reasonable; Just think 15 sec was too much
There are ways to counter that but i understand the feeling. Still i think 15 secs is too much. 20-25 would be a better nerf
Not really that meta is mid but hes not the problem with it at all
The problem is the lack of proper sentis and 2nd initiators which makes the playstyle very centered on double duelist
He was pretty fine and balanced, his kit was good and the best ability (tp) wasnt overpowered at all; it had good value while also having counterplay; to fully understand and utilize the agent to its max potential you needed a ability floor and more intricate plays came with a good amount of risks. he is a alright entry duelist and a great second entry because he takes the 2nd initiator spot having good flashes and additional mobility abilities. but no one was really complaining about him being overpowered at all
the only reason hes overused its pretty much cause he does not have good competition, kayo and skye are mid and breach flashes are bad. some teams even still utilize skye as the flash in maps where shes viable. id rather have them all buffed to have some competition and more viable alternative comp and playstyles then just try to eliminate him all together and i dont understand why thats the path riot always chooses
it wouldnt these agents would still not be used every map would just be more balanced with counterplay
neon dont need nerfs, deadlock and vyse need buffs
tarik hltv page is like a fanservice prequel if you open up a random ass match there will be at least one well known fps player on his team
will do you one better: yay played with XAND (yeah THAT xand, furia xand) on a cs brazilian team one time in 2019
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2332833/furia-vs-intz-ecs-season-7-north-america-week-3
Its a joke on the BR community that cryo has xenophobic aim because he always fucks us in the ass lmao
2 games vs South NA
Cryo Xenophobic Aim is showing
also why is boostio getting to site before him
funny thing about that game is eg wasnt even playing that bad loud was just smashing the fuck outta them
Why do you have to pick in the first place
it does matter but maybe he has an alt or something
why is aspas randomly catching strays ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
but true the only one who comes even close to what we are seeing now was jawgemo in 24 neon meta and even then it wasnt that crazy
nismo could work with derrek. they are benching derrek for KYU
london we are getting derke aspas and less on the top 3 you dont need to worry about that
they are likely getting partnered next year so i think they need to think better things
well if he keeps not showing up most of the time it doesnt matter at all if they make it or not
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