1. Halfyear /= 3 years.
2. Map still same from June, skye and sova still same from June.
3. Guild? Breach on icebox? Wtf? what does this have to do with the case?
   Use some facts, freak. Dont change the topic(on Guild or other experiments of FPX or on my personality) and dont rely on ur fantasy about what will happens nowadays.
   Fact that FPX with Skye owned 2 finalists of Challengers 3 EU quals on Icebox with Skye and it was best ICEBOX atm.

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Well, ok. I respect ur opinion, but i have own opinion on that, so im not gonna continue this discussion.
Meanwhile friday looks like:
Teams with Sweden and Russian players vs Champions finalists.
Gonna cheer for first ones, i want to see new faces this year and that EMEA scene is competitive.

No hate bro, even reverse, ma man trexx playing in Guild, so i want to believe in Guild,but im not gonna overrate Guild just because of 1 result on EU quals. Mb it was honeymoon? I hope that it was not and they can be as great as everyone expect. But Imo i still didn't saw something really amazing from them(for example like reverse sweep from FPX in GF that blew my mind and showed their mental power).
I want to see how someone will push them to their limits and how Guild gonna perform after their first defeat, so i can understand how to feel about this team.

Copium

EZK 2:0

Vlr gg user moment:
<they will get punished if they play no sova on icebox against a top team

<13-7 vs Acend (skye instead of sova)
<13-4 vs G2 ( skye instead of sova)

usually its Ange1gokill
If not works then ardiis go kill
if not works then zyppan go kill
if not works then shao go clutch
if not works then suygetsu go clutch
if not works ok guys mb lets try to use strats (always works)
ez formula for fpx for win all events

They won icebox vs ACEND(13-7) and G2(13-4)with Skye btw. Skye more useful because on Icebox not so many spots for recon and every pro player already know all of them. Thats why recon useless, Enemy Jett just always can smoke it. Also Sova's ult now costs 8 orbs, so every round u just have 1 slow drone( that also costs more now) and 2 shockdarts, lol.
Meanwhile Skye grabs more info(flashes perfect for big map with big spaces than recon), it costs cheaper(drone,ult) and gives for you opportunities to play agressive. Also skye's flashes with viper wall its a great combo.

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Fly phoenix fly

You can feel it

Lol so where are hot takes? I'll show u how do it:

Guild on honeymoon phase, after honeymoon they will become another usual A tier team.

FPX will win Gambit this friday

Some of groups(probably a) may have two teams with 4-1 instead of one clear favourite with 5-0(so third place should have 2w-3l)

SMB will win Guild

A group > B group

I agree with take about liquid and v1, but no way acend lose to guild

He full of navi copium, while real darkhorse is FPX

Imo 60/40
CIS -> 5mokes/KPI
North -> XL/Alliance
Dach -> Wave/Mauz
Spain -> Rebels/Case
East -> Finest/need more DM
France -> Vitality/BDS
Turkey -> FireFlux/Futbolist
MENA -> Raad/Geekay

From EMEA challengers: LDN and BBL

Shao and Chronicle

C9 5
Xset 4
Guard 3
100T 2

Sen 5
V1 4
NRG 3
Optic 2

God plus phoenix cause momentum is building

They still one of the best in EMEA.
Ange1 played with sickness, team wasnt practice at least 1 week before this bo3 while BIG even played with bootcamp and FPX still won it. FPX showed decent result, but ofc they can be so much better. And i hope they will show better performance next friday.
Also i hope that they finally will organize bootcamp on important stage (for group stage ending or even for playoff).

*Fact that every team that ever qualifed for LAN in EMEA played on bootcamp

ronickel so scary rusisan man make all liquid weak men do liquid in pants.. lost to sabtogge too much water in wawater bottle... gambit should get deflorized for cheater and unfair win ...

Liquid consistently loosing to good CIS teams.
FPX(5-1), GMB(2-0), NaVi(1-0).
Only team TL won were Forze/OBG, that not even qualifyed from 2nd open with their old roster.

Phoenix Plus Fun

Then thats how power level in Group A looks like:
FPX>NaVi>LDN(ex Gydom Galva)>Gambit>TL

Cause literally every team vs ECO starting giving a lot space for free because afraid to lose fight or give gun. Thats literally why enemies can win eco rounds. FPX eco winrate huge, ig Ange1 know better what to do.
Its some kind of antistrat. You still contesting map vs ECO instead of sitting in backsite for halfround and lose ur focus. Just unlucky moment, but still good call.

No esports culture and own servers, but still so many esports talents and decent results especially in FPS

He can, but probably too busy with praccs and creating new meta.

Too early for that kind of thoughts. Firstly i want to see some consistent decent results from CIS teams vs TL at least
(FPX won them a lot in past, NaVi also did it in past once, but we need to see that they can repeat it and show that that wasnt luck)
Even if they can show good level both NaVi and FPX need bootcamp for playoffs( if they can qualify) like this did every EMEA team that ever qualifed on LAN. But NaVi cant now because of politics ig, FPX not using bootcamps for important stages for some reasons . Ping diff or playing vs team with bootcamp buff can be a problem in future so chances to make it on LAN for all 3 CIS teams too low mb even unreal atm.

Then
who cars? ----> Astralis

I mean now there are some chances that all 3 CIS teams can do it in group A. Hope they can win enough to qualify for playoff

Derke is Russian, Mistic knows Ukranian language

Tsss, dont jinx them.

Teams that did it from eu qualifiers = weakest teams, what a logic.

Copium

Everyone know that NA is bad, so we are comparing best regions

Fpx>acend

A GROUP PREDICTION:
FPX
NAVI
GAMBIT

Dont forget 5pirit

agree

A:
FPX/TL (as i know fpx doing better and doing better in scrims)
TL/FPX (heard about some roleswaps in TL + usually they lost to FPX in past, but ange1 have covid now so idk)
NaVi (NBS told in draw video that prefer to avoid NaVi, he also told it about VK and KRU in past, so i have my eyes on NaVi)
Gambit ( Sheydos have arm issues, nAts have covid, they tested 5 analysts in a month and still no solution. Also 0 officials in 2 months. I think GMB have a lot potential for not qualifying through group)
LDN UTD
BIG

B:
GUILD (Great results in scrims as i heard, but still there are doubts about how the roster will show itself at a long distance and after first defeat)
ACEND
G2 (even after scandal still think other teams below have less firepower. )
SMB (If highping abuse still works than we can replace G2 with SMB. Even without SMB have some discipline and a lot of work in duo, trades, so mb SMB will be main problem for G2.)
FNC(Lanimals, but not good online)
BBL

Still best NA team lol

Copium)

Hot takes:
Gambit not qualify through group.

Imo

GROUP A:
FPX/TL
TL/FPX
NAVI

GAMBIT
LDN
BIG

GROUP B:
GUILD
ACEND/G2
G2/ACEND

FNATIC
SMB
BBL

Wanna see in emea playoff G2 with completly new roster(comparing to 2020) VS FPX with same core since anounce. Not only el classico, but also the clash of opposing philosophies.

)))

OBG wins this

Good enough

hz 2 : 0 tyeasy

told about flights to apac then back then flights to masters and back if they qualify. ig you dont understand that everything can go wrong as it was on NA lcq and OCE will be again forgotten region

lol exactly as EU and CIS(language barrier, payment,etc), but CIS dont have direct invite as LATAM has, even with fact that our team played 2 major grand finals

idk I thought it would be cheaper to give them a direct slot for the first time than to pay for flights and games in apac region(also some covid moment can always happen like on NA lcq). if u think that riot's solution better then ok