A: EG, FNC
B: OpTic, PRX
C: GenG, EDG
D: DRX, LOUD

9-3 curse —> 13-0 the opponent

everyone literally blames jinggg

TH 6-0 the same fpx core it isn’t even comparable

24 lev would be too inconsistent to be there ngl

same but let’s be real 2021 sen would get demolished

2022 loud
depends on if you think benkai era or something era was better
2023 eg
2024 heretics
50/50
2024 geng

2021 sen over 2024 geng???

who do you think should’ve won champs then?

he actually talks about sage mommy?

smoggy was better in champs overall except for the final, even when they were struggling hard in shanghai smoggy was still their top performer

zmjjkk and smoggy were on vacation and from the looks of it they only practiced ascent which is going away next episode

smoggy was better and more consistent than zmjjkk through out the year. i think they’ll have a slow start in form in bangkok but be better in toronto and paris, will be much harder to win another trophy because every team will have their eyes set on them

i think m8 deserves to be higher (to C/B) G2 minimum C tier imo

i think NRG was better when they had the white logo

just vibes, people watch him for his entertainment not necessarily for his gameplay

you missed DFM doing the funny i guess

everyone associated him with being the best raze even when jawgemo diffed him though. then zekken came by and he was considered as one of the best, it went downhill in shanghai and nobody considers him as a top tier raze anymore, sucks to see

started hanging out with subroza and shanks, eventually he made a name for himself as he did more content with them (i think he blew up when he started to break his webcam a lot?)

he established himself and has more viewership than subroza now

am i passive aggressive? my apologies for that

got one question though, why do you have an edg flair if you think their run was mickey mouse?

Don’t have any old names. I don’t have anything against you though, 100x better than azzelastia

they already shown great promises in the radiant asia event but i don’t wanna get my hopes up just yet, but im glad they’re not bottom feeders anymore

the #1 thing i want to happen next year is to see meiy qualify to an international event 🐐

only sane player on prx tbh. i remember how many rounds they threw on sunset vs edg and mindfreak had to save their asses. no wonder why he’s the iceman of apac

I’m talking about how fnatic and prx and edg did in 2023 to how they did in 2024

all of them were arguably more consistent in 2023 with each of them having one or two bad tournaments in 2024. EDG just ended up being the better of the three though.

i wanted TH to win as much as you did but kangkang dropped 111 kills, nothing they can do bout that

???

PRX were trash in shanghai (you should’ve seen how many rounds they kept throwing) and champions, only good in madrid

FNATIC didn’t make madrid and was trash in shanghai, it was a miracle they even won the stage 1 trophy tbh, but they redeemed themselves in stage 2 and champs though

Yeah they’re saying that sen isn’t the #1 undisputed best team of all time despite what nostalgic people say

prx? i’m talking bout their run in 2023 compared to 2024

prx champs finalists to being dogshit in 2024, does that mean they were flukers?

fnatic was dominant in 2023 then didn’t win a single game in shanghai with the same roster, were they flukers?

and th is joining them

move fnatic to number 1, super dominant in tokyo with alfa pulling tenz numbers in a more developed meta and still had a top 4 placement in champs. they also established the lotus meta and more

unironically a solid upgrade but that would mean rossy has to play kayo and breach instead probably

as a stand in

FPX made top 4 in champs while prx got grouped by a LCQ team in 2022

who

0/8 bait, stopped reading when i saw TH and inconsistent put in the same sentence

all those teams play styles > prx postplant throwing

they’re playing in showmatch in madrid, maybe they’ll show stuff there

most teams that keep their roster are more likely to have shaky results (fnatic, prx and navi being some of the more notable ones because they’ve made deep tournament placements near the end of the year) TH and EDG aren’t exceptions either i think that’s what he meant

you’re right but im still uncertain on how their season will go out

yeah because optic was more consistent than loud and geng was more consistent than edg

boo
boaster
fns
saadhak
natank
k4davra
kicks
something
zellsis
moose
oxy
havoc
ange1
shao

8/10

meiy got a good team from the looks of it

he’s salty that edg won champs, don’t bother with him

both really. i think kangkang said that they’ve barely practiced after his vacation was over like a week ago (you can tell they only practiced ascent) and said that bad results are to be expected. i’m hoping they can turn it up in the next offseason event cause losing in your hometown isn’t very forgiving 😅

as for prx though, this map pool is more forgiving for them because split and pearl were some of their better maps & j0nggg turning into jinggg too. he greatly turned up which is relieving to see after all the hate he got

yea that’s not a bad way to put it, i definitely think burnout was a much bigger issue in 2024 than 2023 and was a part as to why teams weren’t consistent. sen won madrid and suffered burnout thus not qualifying, geng won shanghai and suffered burnout thus not making playoffs. the teams they lost to made it to the inspire arena so they get a pass for me

they beat fut, should’ve beaten g2, beat prx, beat trace, beat sen (who knocked the favs out) beat lev, and beat TH in a close series. they’re a good team

champs was more competitive than shanghai

i think he’s not calling gengs run a fluke but he’s asking why the OP is saying that 2024 is the wEaKeSt year in vct history when geng made 5 out of 6 finals this year and won three of them. i just think it undermines the work that every trophy winning team this year (and TH) had to put in, especially GenG