I would put them as 4th best in NA (behind Lev, G2 and KRU), let alone internationally.

I can't be the only who still thinks s0m is still extremely dominant.

Using an off-day sen as a comparison for PRX, GENG, and TH is just rude

Sadly someone took ascension before I could grab it.

Oxy is oxygen esports lmao am I that confusing

I'm asking how a T2 team like Oxy can move into T1 with the other teams.

How exactly do the T2 teams move into T1? The T2 playoffs are currently happening, but does the winner end up playing in Champs?

(And yes I'm aware the easy answer is nepotism, definitely not looking at MIBR)

I didn't follow G2 in the past, didn't they disband and then came back?

0/8 (I agree with half of this list)

I also respect players that stay with one team for a long time. Asuna has watched 100T go through a ton of development and he shows up nearly every game (had a rough time against GENG to be fair).

val community when a jett with an op gets kills (this will break the economy of the entire team)

Ignoring the goofy profile pic they gave him, Asuna is underrated. People will spam threads talking about how he'll mess up a satchel, and then ignore the multiple rounds he cleared the entire site by himself.

I'm convinced the only reason is because he avoids flashy kills, so he's overshadowed by cryo or bang. But between all the members of 100t, I'd take Boostio and then Asuna in that order.

God I feel like VCT misses out with these casters... I just watched a guy who watched SEN just get wiped, put them as winning playoffs.

We need casters who are willing to give their opinions despite what the crowd wants. It's not a huge deal but they force us to listen to them for 30 minutes a game.

By that logic we should have "sacy save us" threads because he won several maps for sen. Zekken not playing as well is the real reason for their loss.

I feel like Tenz fans need to admit that his era of dominance is long over. He's a great player but he's not the player SEN relies on anymore.

Dawgemo just not the same, luckily his contract's up with EG

?? my guy they lost to MIBR

Anyone genuinely pissed off at how bad NA is? I like most of the teams but I'm worried they'll get wiped by international teams like TH or GENG.

SEN was the best internationally and I feel like they'd lose to c9 right now.

Bang's mom in the crowd (iykyk)

Ya'll see that Icy kill with a satchel?

I think Oxy is a prodigy but my god, KRU should absolutely wipe them if I'm right about this team. They have the weirdest thing where they'll crush every other team, and then enter a losing streak.

GENG and PRX are going to wipe NA try again next year

sen isn't trading enough, felt shaky and like most teams are over-relying on the duelist

I didn't even realize people were looking to replace him... are there even any duelists available that could match his acs? Jawgemo maybe...

I want to see the stats after this bind map bc holy

"Once I raise an international trophy like johnqt did, maybe I'll be ranked in the top 3" - Valyn

Anyone else have him in their top 3 igl right now?

KRU should be the #1 team in NA.

I watched some KRU VODs recently its genuinely confusing why this team isn't old LOUD reincarnated. Melser reminds me of Less, how he'd just dominate 1v1s, Keznit is top-tier even if he's not an aspas. Shy and Heat are actually solid players. I haven't decided whether removing Klaus was a good thing.

I know everyone's going to say this could apply to any team but I disagree, KRU's main problem is lacking that 5th man to bring things together. Thoughts?

You aren't telling enough people then. Trust me, everyone wants to hear about it.

Hit ascendant and then told everyone about it. Didn't take too long after.

Speaking of weird shit, look how they are playing Map 2. I almost want to take this post back but they are still playing ranked.

There is no match to fix - regardless of how bad Loud loses today 100T is in playoffs, and in last place.

Second this, I sound like I'm coping but I'm watching these plays and Loud is not even trying - just going through the motions like a scrim.

They aren't even in playoffs, why the hate...

Ya'll it's over EG won. Dawgemo wins these.

All you just showed is that FNS is a better IGL than Ethan. I'm not claiming FNS is a bad IGL I'm saying he doesn't have what it takes to measure up to the top IGLs in the league. I look forward to seeing more games from his team but my guess is that there will be some major changes.

Honestly sounds like you could solo Everest first try no gear.

Insane mechanics? No. But I don't feel like its asking a lot to ask that he doesn't bottom frag nearly every game.

You are free to call me biased for excluding the C9 game but I am not impressed by someone that can kill a team that is playing ranked.

That's what I'm saying, s0m and ethan both have to flash for their team so it makes no sense to say s0m's role is easy. Paranoia is way worse for clutch plays though.

??? The point is that he has a flash, once s0m uses paranoia he has to rely on his gun skills. Either way I'd say Ethan and s0m are on equal footing.

I hear you, I think FNS is good but I just don't have enough to go by because he's lost to every fragging IGL. If they had won this game and entered playoffs we'd have a lot more to look at.

That's what I mean tho - both times he went against a team with a superior IGL (meaning someone who can igl AND frag) with G2 and SEN, and they lost. I don't have the evidence to put him near the top atm. C9 and Kru are both teams that rely on hero plays that even some ranked squads could out-IGL.

Bots are gonna hate but I'm not seeing it. Modern-day IGLs have to pop off if they want to win anything. Like congrats, he's above vanity, an igl whose best play is "send oxy in"

Why people are still hyping FNS up I will never understand

washed players joining NA T2 would be an upgrade for them

I'm fine with one nade but the gradual nerfing of Raze movement is the worst. Although removing rocket boosts was probably for the best.

What was different about astra? Feels like she's never played anymore which makes the nerf even worse.

imo chamber 1 tp chamber is fine he just needs a second trip

If you had to pick the most OP agent ever, what would you choose? Which one would you bring back without ruining the game?

Real ones remember when Fade hounds were 100hp each, and when you could tether people from the ceiling.

Kayo is easily most accessible for CS folks with flashes + molly. Also, his knife shuts down the enemy so you can just gunfight instead of playing Overwatch.

Kayo mains unite